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Big 3 race live thread - (Vir-Gov, NJ-Gov, NY-23)
Me | 11/3/09 | GeorgiaDawg32

Posted on 11/03/2009 6:10:38 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32

Follow those races here. Report turnout, exit polls etc. as they happen..


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey; US: New York; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2009; breaking; christie; corzine; deeds; elections; gingrich; hoffman; mcdonnell; newjersey; ny23; obamareferendum; owens; palin; sarahcuda; scozzafava; teapartyrebellion; va2009; virginia
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To: CriticalJ; Gene Eric; Petronski
Should we start a separate thread for voter fraud allegations.

Yes, and a third one for infighting.

361 posted on 11/03/2009 11:26:21 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Lazamataz

What number base system are you using?


362 posted on 11/03/2009 11:28:04 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

FWIW, InTrade has 99% of McDonnell winning, 85% of Hoffman winning, and 55% chance of Christie winning.....


363 posted on 11/03/2009 11:29:29 AM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: Disambiguator

we need to keep ONE thread.

we have too many threads posting on this day and we lose dissemination of information.

It is all a question of turnout now. Are democrats so embarrassed about obama that they don’t even bother to vote.


364 posted on 11/03/2009 11:30:22 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: St. Louis Conservative
InTrade has a pretty good track record, don't they?

Those are encouraging numbers. Even Christie's.

365 posted on 11/03/2009 11:30:49 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

The value of the Diebold machine vote was that the voter could review and change his vote on every candidate and issue before finally “casting” the ballot.

There was actually a statistical improvement of voters’ intentions becoming their actual vote, then there had been from either the optical scan or the paper or the hole punch ballot.

This meant the machines, absent human interference, gave a more accurate vote than previous systems. There were sufficient checks in the system to know that ‘votes’ were not lost in the software. The drawback was the lack of the paper showing each voters’ intentions that was available with other kinds of ballots.

Diebold does ATM machines, and how many transactions are erroneous? Customers get a receipt, and somehow that could not be engineered into the voting machines. I wish it could have been done. Maryland is scrapping them for 2010. I don’t know what we are going to have to use. I know that voting was much quicker with the Diebold machines, and (most) voters in the several precincts where I worked were comfortable with them.


366 posted on 11/03/2009 11:31:30 AM PST by maica (Freedom consists not in doing what we like,but in having the right to do what we ought. John Paul II)
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To: gimme1ibertee

Hey, I love the Northern Neck area! Thanks for voting today.


367 posted on 11/03/2009 11:31:47 AM PST by Molly Pitcher (We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*))
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To: ohioWfan

ohio, how did you vote on #2, may I ask? I was very conflicted, and in the end couldn’t vote to establish another gov. entity.


368 posted on 11/03/2009 11:33:38 AM PST by Molly Pitcher (We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*))
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
who needs turnout when dems have all the ballots they need in closets, car trunks, basements etc.? they simply need a final total on how many they need before they strike...

Rumor has it that Corzine is taking some advice from some Iranian Mullahs from the Iranian Election ministry (/sarc)
369 posted on 11/03/2009 11:34:16 AM PST by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: longtermmemmory

I was joking...shoulda used a sarc tag.

:^)


370 posted on 11/03/2009 11:35:14 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: GOPRaleigh

McDonnell likely be 10+ points, Hoffman probably win, but how much I don’t know. NJ Gov, just don’t see a 4 point win in NJ, the ability to manufacture fake votes in NJ is just too high. For him to have a ligitimate 4 point win means he’d have to actually win by 6-8 points minimal.


371 posted on 11/03/2009 11:36:10 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: BigEdLB

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/

In New Jersey, Turnout Higher In GOP and Swing Districts Than In Democrats

I want to preface this by noting that all of this is based only on the early voting, and is based on about a half-dozen polling places in every county in New Jersey; some known as historically Republican districts, some known as historically swing districts, and some known as historically Democratic districts.

A trusted source tells me that as of noon, total turnout in the GOP the swing districts in NJ is significantly outpacing turnout in Democrat districts. The turnout ratio is not quite two to one, but it’s not that far from it.

Now, this should NOT be interpreted as ipso facto evidence that Chris Christie is going to win. Democratic districts may have more voters show up later in the day. This isn’t an exit poll, and we have no idea how the folks in any of these districts are voting; we just know that they’re showing up and voting.

But, as of this morning, turnout was higher Republican areas of the state than in Democratic ones, and that has to make Chris Christie and his supporters feel like they’re doing their jobs well...

UPDATE: I have a bit more detail now. Again, this is based strictly on the morning turnout, and there’s the afternoon and evening turnout could look completely different.

The two heaviest turnout counties are Hunterdon, which McCain carried by 13.3 percent over Barack Obama, and Morris County, which McCain carried by 8.1 percent.

The phenomenon is not uniform; Union Country’s turnout is described as above Ocean’s, and Obama carried Union by 27 percent; Ocean County’s turnout is described as “good,” and McCain carried that county by 18 percent.

Hudson County and Essex County were described as “light.” Hudson County is heavily Democratic, with Obama carrying it by 46 percent last year; he carried Essex County with 75 percent of the vote.

Salem County’s turnout is described as “unbelievably sleepy”; Obama carried that county by 4 percent.


372 posted on 11/03/2009 11:39:08 AM PST by sunmars
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To: Molly Pitcher
You're welcome,and the same to you...
I love VA. I used to be a subject of the People's Republic Of MD and defected about 11 years ago,thank God! LOL
I like the NN area,although we have our share of Dem-wits,it's all good.
I can leave my car doors unlocked at night and I have good neighbors that look out for each other,you know,like it used to be,in the good old days....
373 posted on 11/03/2009 11:39:24 AM PST by gimme1ibertee ("In a time of universal deceit,telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act"-G. Orwell)
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To: St. Louis Conservative
FWIW, InTrade has 99% of McDonnell winning, 85% of Hoffman winning, and 55% chance of Christie winning.....

I don't think McDonnell has much to worry about, but the other two are touchy...

McD. will win by 15-20%... Can you say lanslide?

After all he is runnung against a fresh-water Crustacean

374 posted on 11/03/2009 11:39:45 AM PST by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: HamiltonJay

I’ll predict:

McDonnell wins by 14, with long coattails.
Christie squeaks by with a 1 point win (and the recounts begin)...
Hoffman handily beats Owens by, say, 15. I’d say more, but there are probably a fair number of Stupid Party voters who will pick Scozzafava in ignorance.


375 posted on 11/03/2009 11:40:37 AM PST by Liberty1970 (Democrats are not in control. God is. And Thank God for that!)
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To: Molly Pitcher
I voted based on the advice of one conservative farmer who is a close family friend. He advised to vote yes because it would stop PETA and leftist crazies from taking over Ohio farms with their eco-nonsense.

I didn't know until we found out what he had to say which way to go, especially because loony left Strickland was advertising for it, and I wondered how he could possibly be supporting the right thing.....

It was one I was insecure about, so if our friend is wrong, I voted the wrong way. It was a difficult one.

376 posted on 11/03/2009 11:42:19 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: gimme1ibertee

“I love VA. I used to be a subject of the People’s Republic Of MD and defected about 11 years ago,thank God! LOL”

Smart move.


377 posted on 11/03/2009 11:42:43 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: keepitreal

“noon, trusted source says total turnout in GOP & swing districts in NJ is significantly outpacing turnout in Democrat districts.
14 minutes ago”

The dimoKKKRATs are probably just now getting out of bed. Around sundown they will start arriving at the polls.


378 posted on 11/03/2009 11:43:01 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: maica

“and somehow that could not be engineered into the voting machines.”

If I were a corrupt organized-crime vote fraud manager I’d demand the reciepts, in return for payment, whether entry to a poke chop dinner or pack of butts, or bottle of Mad Dog. Thet’s why no reciept.


379 posted on 11/03/2009 11:43:47 AM PST by DBrow (Thank You Al Gore You Saved Earth!)
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To: KansasGirl

I grew up in Jersey. Its a Horror story. I think 100 politicians indicted in 10 years. That means there were at least 900 they didn’t catch.


380 posted on 11/03/2009 11:44:31 AM PST by PA-RIVER (Don't blame me. I voted for the American guy.)
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