Posted on 10/29/2009 10:19:10 AM PDT by Elderberry
Judge Carter Ruling on MTD
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JB Williams
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999
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Every member of the Supreme Court, every member of congress, every member of the Joint Chiefs, most members of the DOD, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and state run media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, Fox and print news, knows that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT meet Article II Section I constitutional requirements for the office he holds. By his own biography, there is NO way he can pass the test. The hard evidence is so far beyond overwhelming, it is ridiculous.
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But not ONE member of Americas most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand.
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Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup. The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated only by political self-preservation.
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Americans keep asking what they can do because they see that none of their leaders are doing anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. Its the right question, because those leaders are NOT going to stop this thing.
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WHO WILL SAVE FREEDOM?
A brave few
This is how it was in the beginning, how it has always been and how it will be.
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DR. ORLY TAITZ, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep, ALL OF WHOM HAVE MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP.
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A PRECIOUS FEW, BUT THEY EXIST
and the walls are indeed closing in on Obama and his evil cabal. IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FAIL TO GET BEHIND THESE BRAVE FEW WHO ARE SEEKING PEACEFUL REDRESS, ALL THE PEACEFUL OPTIONS WILL EVAPORATE AS IF THEY NEVER EXISTED. WE WILL RETURN TO A PRE-1776 AMERICA OVERNIGHT..
Do YOU fear Obama?
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999
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A precious few, indeed. Lets get behind those few brave patriots who are out there in the trenches every day working to prove Obamas inelgibility:
Dr. Orly has put her lifes blood into this fight. SHE HAS MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP FROM COWARDLY REPUBLICANS AND THE SCOTUS.
Dr. Orly is the ONLY one out there in the trenches EVERY day hitting Obama on multiple fronts and trying to bring him down. It is reported that she is more than $8,000 in debt from using her own funds for expenses in her flights across the U.S for interviews, speeches, serving papers and meeting with officials.
She has even gone to Isreal and Russia to spread the message about Obamas inelgibility!
She states the case expertly, including the bc and natural born citizen aspect, when not abused by the U.S. state-controlled media. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132880
Sure, Dr. Orly makes mistakes. We all do. But Dr. Orly is no dummy. How many of us could go to a foreign country, learn 5 languages, establish a successful dental practice, a successful real estate business AND pass the California state bar- one of the hardest in the U.S. to pass?
She may be a mail order attorney and not a Harvard lawyer, but she IS an attorney with all the rights and privilages of a Harvard lawyer nevertheless!
The point is; she has the passion, the zeal, the courage of her convictions and the love of America and its freedoms (unlike many of our great attorneys and patriots who criticize her) that will not let her give up!
She is exhausted. She is nervous. She is frustrated. It is reported that she gets by on 4-5 hours of sleep per night, and her family is very worried about her health- as well as her safety.
She makes mistakes. But she will NOT give up. She will keep on until she gets it right.
So lets get behind this great little Russian refugee and great American patriot.
Stop tearing her apart. The Obots dont need our help.
The obots are scared to death of this little lady and her determination. Thats why they come out in droves all over the net on forums, chat rooms and even the national news to attack and ridicule.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcChG5pRTOE&feature=player_embedded
Please visit Dr. Orlys website. Dont be influenced by Obots.
Do what you can to help her.
Not true!
We were many here up in arms about his ineligibility before the election!!
The Clintons were the very first "Birthers"!!!
Not everyone has access to PACER. I was just asking a legitimate question.
Be warned about feeding t....!!!
That's going to change pretty soon if she keeps up her antics.
Orly is her own worst enemy. She has set herself up for what ever comes her way.
“Is it more important to YOU as to looking good in the eyes of the SRM, or to uphold and defending the Constitution, I’m just asking a simple question???”
Upholding and defending the Constitution does not require anyone to continuously make the kind of statements Taitz puts forth that are shown to be innacurate at best over and over again.
How does criticizing her lack of professionalism and her behavior, which have IMO led to this becoming viewed as a “fringe issue” and to it being summarily dismissed, somehow mean we are supporting Obama?
To me it means I am voicing my concern that she has taken a righteous issue and turned it into something no one will bother to look at now. It makes it that much easier for our well founded complaints against Obama to be ignored as just more of the same. And well, that p*sses me off.
Shoveling sh*t for the DNC
LL - correct me if I’m wrong on what you were stating, please. You and I don’t agree on this issue very often at ALL, but I think I understand what you are getting at here, and I don’t think the polling data is what you meant, is it?
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Actually as far as any candidate with their name on enough ballots to POSSIBLY win would make sense, would it not? If the courts uphold the “only candidates have standing” premise, then LL would be right that the courts would most likely make the distinction as well that only candidates with their name on the ballot in enough states to win in the Electoral College would have standing...
I’m not saying I agree that these are the only people who SHOULD have standing on this issue, or that there are not perhaps other avenues to persue... Just that if we are following the judges’ commentary in their decisions on these cases, this IS what we are left with. And, we’re not talking about a “chance of winning based on polling”, we’re talking about being on enough state ballots (regardless of polling results in those states) to have a chance of winning.
IOW, the Libertarian (or Green, or Constitution Party, etc...) Candidate would have standing if they get ballot access in 2012 in enough states to be a viable candidate.
Now, on a STATE level, this might be different. I would think in some states the issue could be brought before the state courts regarding proof of eligibility if it cannot be satisfied by the Sec’y of State who certifies the names on the ballots themselves. Different states have different laws regarding major and minor parties and such, so there may be an opportunity in one state for a candidate that is not available in another state.
Again, I don’t think this is our ONLY option left at this point... Just that I don’t think LL was saying what you are thinking he’s saying in this one case. :)
A plaintiff can’t file a lawsuit simply to obtain discovery - a plaintiff must seek some sort of relief (whether it is monetary or injunctive). In this case, the Plaintiffs sought an injunction, which the judge (rightly) concluded he did not have the power to grant. A court may not hear a lawsuit if it is not within the judge’s power to grant the relief sought by the plaintiff. If the court cannot hear the lawsuit, discovery cannot proceed.
It is not the role of the judicial system to “allow discovery and refer [matters] to Congress for action or inaction.”
I disagree. I think Judge Carter believes that third-party candidates potentially have standing. But he also makes it clear that not every person who says they're running for president would or should meet the criteria. He specifically states that Keyes's claims of damages were so speculative, given his minute fraction of a single percent of the vote, that his claims of standing could not be supported.
Am I correct in understanding that the 9th Circuit must take the appeal?
The appeal is made to the 9th Circuit. They don't have to take it.
What will happens if the Hawaiian “door” flips right open then???
Exactly how does that work?
When the judge takes two-plus pages to address the conduct of plaintiff's counsel using phrases like unethical and "deeply disturbing", that IS a smack-down. There's no other way to describe it.
Now, silly, don’t argue with things I didn’t say, and don’t make yourself look foolish with dumb invective.
I never said that Judge Carter saw Obama’s COLB; I have no reason to believe he did.
My point was that if an official Hawaiian Birth Certificate was ever requested as evidence, a Certification of Live Birth would be sufficient. The talk of a “long form” is just puffery as far as presidential eligibility is concerned.
Do you mind explain that in more details???
If there's anyone I have ever seen who should be an expert on asses, it's you. You're at the top of the ass fiefdom.
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