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Judge Carter Ruling on MTD
scribd ^ | 10/29/09 | Judge Carter

Posted on 10/29/2009 10:19:10 AM PDT by Elderberry

Judge Carter Ruling on MTD


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: article2section1; birthcertificate; birthers; carter; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; nbc; obama; obamaisfafraud; obamathugs; orly; orlytaitz; romney4obama; romneyantigop; romneybotshere; romneybotsvsbirthers
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To: Genoa
If the executive and legislative branches are both either violating or facilitating violation of the Constitution, that means the judicial branch is the only remaining defender of the people's constitutional liberties.

But the judicial branch cannot possibly defend the people's constitutional liberties by itself engaging in extraconstitutional/unconstitutional actions - and make no mistake, a judicial order to remove a sitting President would clearly violate Article 2, Section 4 of the Constitution.

121 posted on 10/29/2009 11:22:23 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Non-Sequitur

Let’s bet on the other parts of the constitution Dear Leader will violate next. I say, it will be the free speech rights of his political enemies.


122 posted on 10/29/2009 11:22:26 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: LucyT

I’ve been wondering for a long about what witnesses she was going to use, IE:expert witnesses etc.. If she asked them to lie, she needs to be let go..and what credibility left she had would be completely gone.


123 posted on 10/29/2009 11:22:32 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: curiosity

124 posted on 10/29/2009 11:22:54 AM PDT by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Non-Sequitur

If so, he will do absolutely NOTHING about this matter.


125 posted on 10/29/2009 11:23:57 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (ON 1-19-09 GAS WAS, ON AVERAGE IN MEMPHIS, $1.43 A GALLON.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

126 posted on 10/29/2009 11:25:01 AM PDT by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: DoughtyOne
“Either the facts support the plaintiff’s argument, or they don’t. That’s all the judge should address here.”

If that's what you want, you get a similar result. There are few facts supporting this case. Mainly lots of speculation, supposition and wild-eyed nuttiness.

The only relevant fact is that BHO’s father wasn't a citizen. And that boat has sailed.

127 posted on 10/29/2009 11:25:49 AM PDT by El Sordo
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To: Canedawg

Indeed, sir. Let us all bid welcome to the Fourth Reich.


128 posted on 10/29/2009 11:26:39 AM PDT by chris37
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To: Non-Sequitur; NCC-1701
"John McCain."

Or the RNC, or perhaps even Sarah Palin. Of course, while they would have standing, the other issue of justiciability wouldn't be met because Obama has already been installed in Office. As Carter points out in his ruling, the Congress is the only one that can remedy this now.

But, in 2012, his eligibility could be challenged by one of his Democrat opponents in the primary - unlikely sure, but legally possible.

129 posted on 10/29/2009 11:26:59 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Also, does this mean that because the sheeple, or a howling mob deems that something is OK, The Constitution can be dismissed?

The "mob" in this case is Orly and her followers.

130 posted on 10/29/2009 11:28:11 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: The Sons of Liberty
He stated that over 69 million people wanted the usurper and he wouldn’t overthrow him.

That part did not sound like the same Judge Carter who presided over the Oct. 5th hearing.

Comparing the Judge's signature on the 5 September 8 Order setting the Scheduling Conferance to the on this document, they appear *Identical*. Now it's possible that the Clerk just pastes a copy of the Judges signature into these documents, and if so, then they would be identical, but if he signs them individually, they would not be identical. Very similar, but not identical. (I copied the signatures out of the PDF files, and then paste them one above the other in a Word document to make the comparson easier.)

131 posted on 10/29/2009 11:28:52 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: curiosity
"If I were a bookie, I'd start taking odds on how long it will take Orly to get disbarred."

hmmmmmmmmmm... wouldn't this give Orly standing as both zeros are disbarred?

Yeah, I know I'm being silly, I'm just tired (as many are) of all the ways people lie around the truth and how we are ALWAYS told what we cannot do.

Time is now to find out what we can do. Time to create laws for things we can do and not what we cannot.

132 posted on 10/29/2009 11:28:53 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: SaraJohnson
Someone up thread claims Carter is accusing Orly of perjury in his decision. I hope for her sake, she did not do that.

Depends on which boob you believe more, Orly or that Lucas Smith guy. Lucas Smith claims that Orly Taitz Made Him Commit Perjury

133 posted on 10/29/2009 11:29:10 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: SaraJohnson
The constitution, the high law in the land, rules.

And the Constitution states that the only way to remove a President from office is through the impeachment process. For a judge to issue an injunction removing a sitting President from office would be nothing short of judicial tyranny.

134 posted on 10/29/2009 11:29:29 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: NCC-1701

Terrorists and illegal aliens.


135 posted on 10/29/2009 11:29:40 AM PDT by chris37
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To: Drew68

136 posted on 10/29/2009 11:29:45 AM PDT by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe

I guess you’ll be tapping the rum extra early tonight, huh?


137 posted on 10/29/2009 11:29:57 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Grunthor

AFTER-birther troll alert aka Obama supporter.


138 posted on 10/29/2009 11:30:00 AM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: NCC-1701

In Judge Carter’s opinion,
- prior to Obama’s swearing-in, Alan Keyes DID have standing

- after Obama’s swearing in, Obama IS POTUS and can only be removed by Congress. Only Congress has standing, as is outlined in the Constitution.

We at Free Republic view Obama’s eligibility to be in question, therefore the swearing-in was questionable. Judge Carter views the swearing in ceremony as the end-all.

OTOH - I think it will be nearly impossible for Obama to run for POTUS in 2012 without disclosing his BC. As soon as Obama officially declares himself a candidate for 2012, anyone who decides to run for POTUS can file suit for proof of eligibility.


139 posted on 10/29/2009 11:30:01 AM PDT by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: Non-Sequitur

140 posted on 10/29/2009 11:30:36 AM PDT by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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