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To: MHGinTN

Now, silly, don’t argue with things I didn’t say, and don’t make yourself look foolish with dumb invective.

I never said that Judge Carter saw Obama’s COLB; I have no reason to believe he did.

My point was that if an official Hawaiian Birth Certificate was ever requested as evidence, a Certification of Live Birth would be sufficient. The talk of a “long form” is just puffery as far as presidential eligibility is concerned.


318 posted on 10/29/2009 1:51:47 PM PDT by BigGuy22
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To: BigGuy22
My point was that if an official Hawaiian Birth Certificate was ever requested as evidence, a Certification of Live Birth would be sufficient.

Evidence of what? The COLB is only prima facia (meaning at first impression) evidence of the information on it. Not everthing needed is on it. Plus, it only reflects what is in the state's database, and is still subject to challenge of that information, if there is any evidence or reason to believe that the information is incorrect or the original documents fraudulently filed. If this were a simple case of some person wishing to be recognized as a citizen, say for entry into the US, it would not take much contrary information to get the original documents, or certifed copies thereof, produced by the state which held them.

Even the long form might not be sufficient in an of itself. For example, while the long form shows the birthplace of the parents, it does not show their citizenship at the time the child was born. That might be a key piece of information in proving or disproving a case. If so, other documents would be required to prove what the parents citizenship was at the time of birth.

464 posted on 10/29/2009 4:56:05 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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