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Judge Carter Ruling on MTD
scribd ^ | 10/29/09 | Judge Carter

Posted on 10/29/2009 10:19:10 AM PDT by Elderberry

Judge Carter Ruling on MTD


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: article2section1; birthcertificate; birthers; carter; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; nbc; obama; obamaisfafraud; obamathugs; orly; orlytaitz; romney4obama; romneyantigop; romneybotshere; romneybotsvsbirthers
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To: chris37
“Let us all bid welcome to the Fourth Reich.”

This kind of hyperbole is, at best, unhelpful.

181 posted on 10/29/2009 11:54:01 AM PDT by El Sordo
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To: newfreep
Sounds like another Murtha marine...

Gee, that wasn't what you Birthers were saying a few weeks ago.

182 posted on 10/29/2009 11:54:22 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Perdogg

There shouldn’t have been an election with zero on a ballot!

Congress and the individual states really messed up and the only recourse is the courts. They won’t touch this. So...it seems all of the cowards want the people to do the heavy lifting so they won’t ruin the puny lives they have.

Useless scumbags all.


183 posted on 10/29/2009 11:54:39 AM PDT by devistate one four (Back by popular demand: America love or leave it (GTFOOMC) TET68)
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To: Elderberry

The Judgement says:
Keyes may have standing.
This Court can’t deselect a sitting President.
If the case had been file before Obama elected then Carter may have been able to offer redress.
Case filed late because of KREEPs delaying/disagreement.
Carter points to action of Quo Warranto in the DC Court as the only Judicial way to remove a sitting President.
Still no hearin of the actual merits of the case, ie is Obama a NBC.


184 posted on 10/29/2009 11:54:51 AM PDT by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: LucyT
I really doubt Orly asked anyone to lie. Look at how she is discredited right here on FR.

But if you say it loudly and often enough it becomes the truth (to some).

185 posted on 10/29/2009 11:55:19 AM PDT by azishot
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To: pissant
When the sh*t finally hits the fan on your boy, and it will, she will be vindicated.

Regardless of what happens to Obama and when, Orly Taitz will be recognized as the fool that she is and always has been.

186 posted on 10/29/2009 11:55:45 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: El Gato

If he is claiming Orly has committed the crime of perjury, Orly would be wise to zip her lip.


187 posted on 10/29/2009 11:56:46 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: El Gato
The oaths are different, but unless you are an Officer who swore in enlisted personnel on enlistment, or re-enlistment, you might not have ever noticed the differences.

Most, if not all, Officers only swear their oath once, when they are commissioned.

188 posted on 10/29/2009 11:59:25 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (FUBO - When 0bama Fails, Freedom Prevails!)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I did read it again. The judge noted that ‘Keyes received less than one percent of the vote...’ in the context of repeating the argument of the defense. He then discussed why that was a problem.

On page 15, line 11, the Judge notes:

“The Court is troubled by the idea that a third party candidate would not have standing tochallenge a major party candidate’s qualifications, while the opposing major party candidatemay be able to establish standing because he or she has a better chance of winning the election. Defendants’ argument encourages the marginalization of the voice of a third party in what is adominantly two-party political system and would require the Court to pass judgment thatPlaintiffs are such unlikely candidates that who they are running against would not make adifference. This argument also ignores the tremendous effect that a third-party candidate canhave on the presidential election.”

Regarding my statement that “...only Congress has standing...” was a summary and analysis of what the Judge said. You are correct that he didn’t say that. What I summarized is found on page 24:

“However, on the day that President Obama took thepresidential oath and was sworn in, he became President of the United States. Any removal ofhim from the presidency must be accomplished through the Constitution’s mechanisms for theremoval of a President, either through impeachment or the succession process set forth in theTwenty-Fifth Amendment.”


189 posted on 10/29/2009 11:59:52 AM PDT by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: Non-Sequitur
But not a credible one.

The order seems to indicate that it doesn't matter.

Yes. It's also on the Central District website: Link

Thanks for the more credible link.

Am I correct in understanding that the 9th Circuit must take the appeal?

190 posted on 10/29/2009 12:01:23 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
But this judge is a Marine! Isn't he a survivor of Khe Sahn?

Remember the confidence everyone had in him to do the right thing?

You think he just rolls over when threatened?

Maybe he's simply correct in his ruling.

191 posted on 10/29/2009 12:01:26 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: Non-Sequitur

I would say the odds of you tapping the Ripple are far greater than me having any alcohol in a month. Your comebacks are so childish. You remind me of the teens that call everyone fat, like they can see through the computer screen.


192 posted on 10/29/2009 12:01:38 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: plenipotentiary
"Carter points to action of Quo Warranto in the DC Court as the only Judicial way to remove a sitting President."

No, that's not what he said. He said the only place for a Quo Warranto application to be heard is in the DC circuit, and he's right. He made no comment on the likelihood of it's success or even it's applicability. He dismissed solely because of venue, nothing more and nothing less.

193 posted on 10/29/2009 12:02:10 PM PDT by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: Grunthor
That anyone expected a judge to rule with Orly Taitz on anything. That is quite funny.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

ENOUGH ALREADY, JUST STFU! TAKE YOUR CHARACTER ASSASSINATION OVER TO DU.

YOU ARE JUST LIKE THE PRIGS WHO CONTINOUSLY DENIGRATE SARAH PALIN.

194 posted on 10/29/2009 12:03:56 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: El Gato

I am looking forward to see what alan keyes has to say... Especially about the allegations of asking witnesses to lie.


195 posted on 10/29/2009 12:05:32 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: SaraJohnson

Here is a scary thought. If he get all this done, and is terminated before being removed from office, it all stays in. My guess, is that after the Soros types get all their programs in, they won’t be able to afford him the court time and possible removal. So, and this is JMO...look for an assassination....
If he is found to be a fraud and is removed, all his programs and assignments made while he was in office will be reversed. They can’t afford for that to happen.


196 posted on 10/29/2009 12:06:49 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: SaraJohnson

Can you show me, even once, when team 0bam have told the truth - about anything?

It is very easy for that group to find several people willing to testify Orly coached them to lie. 0bam, himself, under oath, would accuse her of lying. And, we wouldn’t be able to provide evidence to the contrary.


197 posted on 10/29/2009 12:09:28 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: mojitojoe

Why debate him/her in the first place? They can throw all the bait out they want, there is no reason to bite. Phooey on that!


198 posted on 10/29/2009 12:10:32 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: mojitojoe

Why debate him/her in the first place? They can throw all the bait out they want, there is no reason to bite. Phooey on that!


199 posted on 10/29/2009 12:10:37 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

You need to go read the p. 29 of the Order to see what the Judge said and the reasoning he used to reach that decision.

Click the following link, grab the scroll bar on the right side of the order and pull it down to the Disposition: page 29 and read what he said.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/21808122/Judge-Carter-Ruling-on-MTD


200 posted on 10/29/2009 12:10:40 PM PDT by deport
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