Posted on 10/19/2009 8:32:17 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
Newsweek magazine recently published a commentary by atheist Richard Dawkins containing some of his arguments against “creationists.” Therein he admitted, “What would be evidence against evolution, and very strong evidence at that, would be the discovery of even a single fossil in the wrong geological stratum.”[1]
Out of place fossils are actually common, despite Dawkins’ claims regarding the “massive numbers” of fossils documenting evolutionary history. ICR News has reported on several over the last 12 months [2,3,4,5,6] and another one has surfaced recently...
(Excerpt) Read more at icr.org ...
That means alot coming from an evo-atheist who pretends to be a Christian while denouncing genuine Christians in the name of Christianity. I have asked you numerous times if you accept Jesus Christ is your Lord and Savior, and you have refused to answer each time. All Christians confess Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. Let me know if you ever become an actual Christian (or are at least willing to be honest and admit that you are an evo-atheist disruptor posing as a Christian). Until then, buzz-off imposter.
What makes YOU the arbiter of who is and isn't a christian?
Do you think you're god?
He is exposing you for what you are. A person devoid of any scientific knowledge who pontificates his religion under the guise of “creation science”.
You are so devoid of scientific knowledge that you don't know how ignorant you are.
See #237.
Oh, ok, I’ll get right on that. LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!
is there a way we can put these creationist threads in a special chat room so they don’t clog up the regular recently posted list? (both for and against)
Wow, another ignorant and intollerant Temple of Darwin drone who tries to pass off his fanatical evo-religion as science. Now there’s a surprise...NOT!
Can’t you just picture GGG in a plaid jacket and striped pants selling tickets to the bearded lady side show on the boardwalk?
I think he was snugged up tight with the snake in the garden...
You forgot the straw boater and bamboo cane.
GGG bases his anti-evolution position on his own definition of Christian principles. However, his very definition of Christianity is at issue when he refuses to acknowledge the Christianity of Catholics and other denominations who readily accept evolution. Therefore, the discussion of “what is Christianity” and “who are Christians” is central to these threads.
I personally don’t care if they are moved to another forum; Religion would not afford GGG the latitude he needs to smear and insult others personally, though.
Yes, how neglectful of me!
And be nice as I don't have to reply to you at all, understand? I don't play the “gotcha” game with you or anyone else.
This is completely irrelevant: “”Jesus said he was the Truth. Why WOULDN'T he say “after 20 billion years that the Creator used evolution” if that is the truth? No matter what he was discussing? Are you saying we can't count on Jesus to speak the truth unless he is speaking directly about the subject? For that matter, how do you know that he WASN'T discussing BOTH the creation timeline AND marriage when he said this? Aren't you just assuming that you can ignore it?”
“The ‘in the beginning’ part. Not after 20 billion years, which would be ‘almost at the end’, not ‘in the beginning’.”
End? End of what? Almost at the end of what?
Given the the context of Jesus words, “beginning” in this particular instance would refer to the beginning of the creation of Adam and Eve since they could not be male and female before then.
“So how do you get around the timeline in Gen 1 and Ex 20 and Christ's statement in Matt 19 using Scripture only?”
You'll have to be more specific, what timeline? So far I've seen nothing that I need “to get around”.
“You pretending not to understand the point shows that you can't defend your position.”
Try being specific as to what you're asking. Unlike yourself I can't read minds and have no interest in trying.
“So how do you get around the timeline in Gen 1 and Ex 20 and Christ's statement in Matt 19 using Scripture only?”
I have no getting around to do so what position am I failing to defend? And again, do try to be specific.
Since you addressed your question to “all”, I’m used to finding them here and I don’t responde well to change so the answer is NO.
But hey, there’s nothing stopping you from going over to chat.
You haven't answered any yet. You said you didn't see the point. I provided you several points that you hadn't answered. You continue to avoid them.
"What does 20 billion years have to do with anything? And you never did say what OEC was or meant."
OEC vs YEC is what 20 billion years has to do with. I see you are still pretending not to know what OEC is. That's fine. I expect nothing but game-playing from someone who claims not to play games.
"And be nice as I don't have to reply to you at all, understand? I don't play the “gotcha” game with you or anyone else."
And you think that requirement is unique to your position? Interesting game you're playing. But, I understand. You don't want to address the issues, so game-playing is your only alternative.
"This is completely irrelevant: “”Jesus said he was the Truth. Why WOULDN'T he say “after 20 billion years that the Creator used evolution” if that is the truth? No matter what he was discussing? Are you saying we can't count on Jesus to speak the truth unless he is speaking directly about the subject? For that matter, how do you know that he WASN'T discussing BOTH the creation timeline AND marriage when he said this? Aren't you just assuming that you can ignore it?”"
Nope, it is completely relevant. If all of Christ's words aren't true, then he isn't Truth.
"End? End of what? Almost at the end of what?"
Of creation. Are you keeping up with the topic of discussion or not?
"Given the the context of Jesus words, “beginning” in this particular instance would refer to the beginning of the creation of Adam and Eve since they could not be male and female before then."
How do you know it applies only to the creation of Adam and Eve and not the beginning of creation? From Scripture please since you have said that you believe that Scripture interprets Scripture. What Scripture defines Christ's statement as only applying to the creation of Adam and Eve and not the creation of heaven and earth just 5 days prior?
"You'll have to be more specific, what timeline? So far I've seen nothing that I need “to get around”."
The YEC timeline.
"Try being specific as to what you're asking. Unlike yourself I can't read minds and have no interest in trying."
Try being specific as to what you don't understand. Unlike yourself I can't read minds and have no interest in trying.
"I have no getting around to do so what position am I failing to defend? And again, do try to be specific."
Again, YEC vs OEC.
O.K., What exactly do you understand the term OEC, OLD EARTH CREATION, to mean?
OK, what exactly do you not understand about the term OLD EARTH CREATION?
It’s a very simple and specific question. Can you answer it or not? If not, O.K., If yes, please try to do so.
I can’t frame it any way more simple and direct than:
“what do you understand OEC, Old Earth Creation, to mean?”
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