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Ancient Amber Discovery Contradicts Geologic Timescale
ICR News ^ | October 19, 2009 | Brian Thomas, M.S.

Posted on 10/19/2009 8:32:17 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Newsweek magazine recently published a commentary by atheist Richard Dawkins containing some of his arguments against “creationists.” Therein he admitted, “What would be evidence against evolution, and very strong evidence at that, would be the discovery of even a single fossil in the wrong geological stratum.”[1]

Out of place fossils are actually common, despite Dawkins’ claims regarding the “massive numbers” of fossils documenting evolutionary history. ICR News has reported on several over the last 12 months [2,3,4,5,6] and another one has surfaced recently...

(Excerpt) Read more at icr.org ...


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KEYWORDS: antiscienceevos; baptist; catholic; christian; creation; evangelical; evolution; intelligentdesign; lutheran; paleobotany; paleontology; protestant; science
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To: GourmetDan
What possible connection is there between, “”Haven’t you read, that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’and for this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’?” and the age of the earth?

And why WOULD Jesus use “ that after 20 billion years that the Creator used evolution...” in discussing marriage of all things????

If there’s some point you’re trying to get to, please do so as my time is limited at the moment.

221 posted on 10/20/2009 7:58:41 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: GourmetDan
“Just go ahead and explain what you think it is.”

Hmmm...How about “Organization of Exporting Countries”, OEC. Your turn if you are going to answer questions with questions. Just go ahead with your explanation.

222 posted on 10/20/2009 8:05:24 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Buck W.

That means alot coming from an evo-atheist who pretends to be a Christian while denouncing genuine Christians in the name of Christianity. I have asked you numerous times if you accept Jesus Christ is your Lord and Savior, and you have refused to answer each time. All Christians confess Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. Let me know if you ever become an actual Christian (or are at least willing to be honest and admit that you are an evo-atheist disruptor posing as a Christian). Until then, buzz-off imposter.

As for New Scientist, as per usual your darwiniac allies are trying to have it both ways. On the one hand, darwood’s so-called “tree of life” is the MAIN PREDICTION of his evo-religious creation myth, on the other hand, the evos have been forced to admit that Charlie’s MAIN PREDICTION has now been falsified. So what do your fellow Temple of Darwin fanatics do? They try to have it both ways of course, declaring darwood’s main prediction to be FALSIFIED, while at the same time declaring that this FACT should not tarnish their cult leader’s image in the least. What a bunch of buffoons!


223 posted on 10/20/2009 8:10:18 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: count-your-change
"What possible connection is there between, “”Haven’t you read, that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’and for this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’?” and the age of the earth?"

The 'in the beginning' part. Not after 20 billion years, which would be 'almost at the end', not 'in the beginning'.

"And why WOULD Jesus use “ that after 20 billion years that the Creator used evolution...” in discussing marriage of all things????"

Jesus said he was the Truth. Why WOULDN'T he say "after 20 billion years that the Creator used evolution" if that is the truth? No matter what he was discussing? Are you saying we can't count on Jesus to speak the truth unless he is speaking directly about the subject? For that matter, how do you know that he WASN'T discussing BOTH the creation timeline AND marriage when he said this? Aren't you just assuming that you can ignore it?

"If there’s some point you’re trying to get to, please do so as my time is limited at the moment."

I'm wondering if there is some point you're trying to get to? After saying, "I'll be right here and happy to deal with your present questions." you now say that your 'time is limited'. It appears that you are just trying to run away as fast as possible.

224 posted on 10/20/2009 8:11:27 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

You call me an imposter, yet you are a demonstrable FRAUD. You are no Christian, and I challenge your professed acceptance of Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. Your statements in that regard are phony and self-serving. You are a side show huckster.


225 posted on 10/20/2009 8:16:36 AM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: GourmetDan

You have a point, get to it please as I’m going to be away for a few hours. But I’ll take up the discussion when I return if you care to.


226 posted on 10/20/2009 8:19:25 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Buck W.

Does this mean GGG has officially declared himself the arbiter of all things “genuine” and the destroyer of all things “not”??

Megalomania is kind of an ugly thing, generally.


227 posted on 10/20/2009 8:19:26 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Buck W.

That means alot coming from an evo-atheist who pretends to be a Christian while denouncing genuine Christians in the name of Christianity. I have asked you numerous times if you accept Jesus Christ is your Lord and Savior, and you have refused to answer each time. All Christians confess Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. Let me know if you ever become an actual Christian (or are at least willing to be honest and admit that you are an evo-atheist disruptor posing as a Christian). Until then, buzz-off imposter.


228 posted on 10/20/2009 8:23:09 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Furthermore, your continue to betray your complete lack of knowledge about any matter in science. Without reference to the specific topic in the article, falsification is actually a GOOD thing that advances scientific thought and achievement. Lack of a falsification mechanism locks creation “science” in a 6000 year old bubble of compounded rationalization.


229 posted on 10/20/2009 8:24:20 AM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: count-your-change
"Hmmm...How about “Organization of Exporting Countries”, OEC."

If you think that OEC means “Organization of Exporting Countries", then I would be interested in how you relate that to your statements here, ""It doesn't apply just to YEC folk. Jesus said God's word was truth (John 17:17) and as we gain “epignosis” we see the pattern of Biblical teachings as Paul called it (2 Tim. 1:13) so if Jesus uttered those words I'd recognize the truth of them, the pattern."

"Your turn if you are going to answer questions with questions. Just go ahead with your explanation."

I'm thinking that someone who uses the acronym YEC knows full well what OEC means and is only trying to avoid the point.

230 posted on 10/20/2009 8:24:57 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: xcamel

I think it just means that he’s a lying fraud who knows that, despite the truth, his sleight of hand will continue to amaze and “educate” his minions (few though they be) of faith as weak as his own. In that regard, they’re like democrat voting blocs.

To me, he’s just entertainment.


231 posted on 10/20/2009 8:28:21 AM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Buck W.
That means alot coming from an evo-atheist who pretends to be a Christian while denouncing genuine Christians in the name of Christianity. I have asked you numerous times if you accept Jesus Christ is your Lord and Savior, and you have refused to answer each time. All Christians confess Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. Let me know if you ever become an actual Christian (or are at least willing to be honest and admit that you are an evo-atheist disruptor posing as a Christian). Until then, buzz-off imposter.

Having said that, let me introduce you to someone who will listen to your phony diatribes to your rotten heart's content:


232 posted on 10/20/2009 8:30:01 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: count-your-change
"You have a point, get to it please as I’m going to be away for a few hours. But I’ll take up the discussion when I return if you care to."

I have already made it multiple times.

"So how do you get around the timeline in Gen 1 and Ex 20 and Christ's statement in Matt 19 using Scripture only?"

"Jesus said he was the Truth. Why WOULDN'T he say "after 20 billion years that the Creator used evolution" if that is the truth? No matter what he was discussing? Are you saying we can't count on Jesus to speak the truth unless he is speaking directly about the subject? For that matter, how do you know that he WASN'T discussing BOTH the creation timeline AND marriage when he said this? Aren't you just assuming that you can ignore it?"

"The 'in the beginning' part. Not after 20 billion years, which would be 'almost at the end', not 'in the beginning'."

You pretending not to understand the point shows that you can't defend your position.

233 posted on 10/20/2009 8:31:32 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

You’re exposed, you know it, and you’re running for the hills. No childish graphics can overcome the shame of your actions. You are over.


234 posted on 10/20/2009 8:32:08 AM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Buck W.

That means alot coming from an evo-atheist who pretends to be a Christian while denouncing genuine Christians in the name of Christianity. I have asked you numerous times if you accept Jesus Christ is your Lord and Savior, and you have refused to answer each time. All Christians confess Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. Let me know if you ever become an actual Christian (or are at least willing to be honest and admit that you are an evo-atheist disruptor posing as a Christian). Until then, buzz-off imposter.

Also, please refer back to the graphic in my last reply to your phony self.


235 posted on 10/20/2009 8:34:42 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Why all the hate in your heart for people who disagree with you?

That is definitely not a Christian trait.

Please figure out where all this hate is coming from.


236 posted on 10/20/2009 8:37:50 AM PDT by Wacka
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To: GodGunsGuts

Keep digging. It entertains me.


237 posted on 10/20/2009 8:41:02 AM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Wacka

I don’t hate them. I am merely exposing a wolf in sheep’s clothing who poses as a Christian in order to attack Christianity from within. This person has been given dozens of opportunities to declare Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior, and he has refused each time. He also like to pretend he is Catholic from time to time, in an effort to drive a wedge between Catholics and Protestants. But when pressed, we also learn that he is not Catholic. When someone is a known liar, you don’t waste time debating them, you expose them for what they are.


238 posted on 10/20/2009 8:43:41 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Buck W.

See my last reply to you.


239 posted on 10/20/2009 8:45:08 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Actually, I’ll do better than that. I will refer all readers to this morning’s exchange in its entirety, not just to your last post. Your sophistry will be evident to everyone. Your evasion upon exposure will be the subject of laughter.


240 posted on 10/20/2009 8:49:32 AM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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