News from Alan Keyes: Judge Confirms Eligibility Trial to Proceed

AIPNews.com ^ | October 7, 2009 | Alan Keyes

[EternalVigilance]

By Alan Keyes
October 7, 2009
Loyal to Liberty

 

I just received a call from Orly Taitz, my attorney in the case seeking proof of Obama's eligibility for the Office of President of the United States. Judge Carter has released a statement declaring that the dates he set for the hearing and trial on the eligibility issue are confirmed, and it will move forward as scheduled. Apparently he was not swayed by the Obama lawyer's arguments.

Loyal to Liberty ...

[El Gato]

So long as the Supremes swore him into office, everything he or she did in the 3rd illegal term would have the force of law. That's how I read it, anyway.

The Supreme Court, or more properly the Chief Justice's, role in the inauguration is a matter of tradition, it's not mentioned in the Constitution. It's not even required that the oath be taken orally. The President and VP are not sworn in, they take the oath of office, the Chief Justice is not the Archbishop of Canterbury conferring a Divine Right. Even that is tradition. It could be written. The military administers their oathes belt and suspenders style, both orally and in written form.

The problem is, that's how I read it too, but I'd need to read the whole case to be certain.

Perhaps the case of a Constitutional officer is different. Violations must have consequences. Either that, or the Constitution is just a worthless piece of paper that the will no longer be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall need not be bound.

[American Constitutionalist]

One would think that Keys would have also talked to the other lawyers and then talked with Orly to get the confirmation to go ahead with the announcement.
Alan Keys is one smart cookie and has a good sense of discernment.

[MHGinTN]

We should have no illusions, Barry Soetoro and the democrat marxist party will destroy this nation if they can, so they can ‘rebuild’ in a federal oligarchical system. What the fools do not realize is, they have so weakened US by erasing our economic resilience that we are now sitting ducks for the enemy our government has failed to terminate or even hinder, by leaving our borders wide open and our energy needs dependent. The current spending spree is designed to crash the economic system, to reduce US to just a second rate economic power as dependent upon World banking as the rest of the world has been. The economic crash is not an accident; it has taken decades to get US to the point we are now being pushed past, to topple US from world power. Obama is a Marxist/fascist with racist blinders. He does not even like America, much less respect our History and Heritage. He is doing exactly what he said he would do, he is fundamentally transforming America into a Chavezesque socialist rat hole.

[El Gato]

Your scenario requires overt and deliberate subversion of the Constitution,

Running for an office you are ineligible for, then taking that office, doesn't?

Sure my hypothetical was somewhat more extreme and obvious, but no different in kind.

[American Constitutionalist]

Constitutionally, yes, maybe ?... but, criminally ? Biden should also be held accountable in this whole fraud.... remember ? your guilty by association.
Americans will not buy the excuse that both Biden and Pelosi didn't know about this.

[American Constitutionalist]

" Resignations are usually considered before the process plays through "

To ask the Democrats to have the moral fortitude to do this ? I think not....
Of all Nixon's faults, at least he knew when the jig was up and at least had a ounce of class to resign.
If this is proven that Obama is ineligible, the credibility of the top leaders of the Democrat party, the DNC, and the main fringe media will be damaged beyond repair.
I do not expect the American public will allow them to gain control of the steering wheel of this country ever again, or at least for years to come.

[American Constitutionalist]

Regarding succession , you would also have to put into consideration of all the political fallout and criminal implications from all of this.
American's won't stand for this of the party who perpetrated all of this.

[Frantzie]

Got it.

[EDINVA]

Hate to ruin your day and mine, but this is yet another overblow misrepresentation of what the Order says. It’s really becoming frustrating that something so basic can be so wildly misconstrued. 700+ posts later.

Keyes, as the client, can only report what he is told by his attorney, but it appears he will have to get another attorney to review what he’s told by the one representing him in court. This is just too embarassing.

[American Constitutionalist]

How about Dick Cheney ?

[Kevmo]

Wow, 18,000 views. Good enough place to bump this thread for later.

[American Constitutionalist]

How can " NUTS " be translated ?
Was it meant as a insult to Orly ?
Or ? Obama's lawyers saying " HECK NO " we will not comply to this.
Or ? that they might already know the judges decision and be saying " NUTS " about the judges decision ?

[American Constitutionalist]

" Shape up, or you don’t get an official troll tee-shirt "

What color and size you want your TROLL tee-shirt ?
XXXL ? white ? green ?

[American Constitutionalist]

If the judge really wanted to pass the case onto the next court and kick the can down the road, wouldn’t he have just dismissed the case right then and there on Monday ?

[MonicaG]

Awesome post, pissant - hilarious. ;)

[American Constitutionalist]

I have not personal beef or spite towards any trolls as long as they don't get into any personal attacks, we should let the moderators deal with them.
As long as they argue with us on the merits of political argument.
I know, I know, it is hard sometimes to remain civil, but, we got to exercise restraint.

[raygun]

Your objection fundamentally pertains to an alleged fraud perpetuated by Obama. If two or more additional parties operated in concert with Obama - regardless of an utter lack of their independent knowlege of any and all other party(s) - then that rises to the definition of conspiracy. If such conspiracy can indeed be proven, I don't believe that treason is all that far behind the horse in the cart its pulling. Nevertheless, and notwithstanding a hypothetical scenario that the entire Democrap apparatus was involved in perpetuation such alleged fraud onto the populace of these still United States of America (AND last best place to live in the WORLD despite the prevalence of wack-job moon-bat liberals), would anybody found guilty of such high crimes and misdemeanors get sentanced to DEATH? Not even Walker received that punishement.

The latter was guilty of egregious offense to the security of the U.S.A., while the former hypothetical actors could be construed guilty of something far more nepharious: sedition, subversion of the functioning of the government at its highest levels, and inciting rebellion.

If the elites occuping the rarified intellectual levels of the Democrap apparatus were in fact duped by the alleged fraud that Obama is accused of, then the worst that they could be attributed to them would be that of malfeasance. What is the legal bar for criminal malfeasence? Somebody used a term: malice aforethought. Somebody doesn't know what they're talking about; they've been watching too much if that hot shot legal show that was popular back in the 80's. IF Obama could be proven guilty of perpetuating fraud, and everybody is innocent (guilty of nothing but incompetence, gross negligiance, dereliction of duty, involuntary manslaughter, willfull disregard of civic responsibility, being a really really REALLY bad person, etc), then how in the world can the doctrine of de facto officer mandate not be applicable in this present unfolding situation?

I throw ONE thing out there just for poops and grins to see if it might stick: Obama's SCOTUS appointment. Now, suppose until all this gets resolved one (or the other) way, what if her decision is THE one that an otherwise evenly split court is predicated upon? There'd be no end to the ensuing chaos. It'd, quite frankly, be no different than the electronic financial system blinking out for ONE SECOND during any arbitrary trading day.

My point is that some of the damage could be mitigated over time, but in the immediate aftermath of a decisive decision that Obama is unqualified to serve as POTUS, ALL of his actions while acting as POTUS would need to remain standing. Believe me that there'd still be lawsuits a plenty, and lots of Denny Crain's be making names for themselves in the mean time.

Not just on a domestic level, but on the international scene, the perceived continuity of orderly government absolutely needs to be maintained. Imagine what would happen to the value of the dollar if even the slightest wiff of CW2 made itself apparent?

IMHO, there's no comfort to be had in Amd. II if worse actually comes to worse; what's being postulated is actually the destruction of "life" as we know it. Chaos doesn't even have the depth and breadth to describe that which would ensue (not just domestically but internationally).

[Kevmo]

Calling people names because they disagree with you is the problem.
***No, trolling is the problem. Calling someone like you a troll because they fit the definition of troll, as posted by the mods, is fair game. Star Traveler was a classic example of a long term freeper who was an issue-specific troll. Now you are the classic example.

COINTELPRO Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum. (Trolling 101)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2165967/posts
Friday, January 16, 2009 12:36:53 PM · by Sidebar Moderator · 251 replies · 6,925+ views

[ecinkc]

Yeah. It's so sad how every few dozen posts would be someone chiming in saying, “Woo hoo, way to go Orly!”

I'm a birther because I remain convinced that there is a clear strong argument that Obama’s eligibility hasn't been sufficiently documented, but sometimes I feel a little bit “guilty by association” with the people who will just fall for anything that sounds like it could be good news.

In baseball, sometimes a batter will be coached to toss his bat aside and start jogging to 1st base when he wants the ump to call "ball four" on a pitch that he knows was in the strike zone and one he should have swung at.

Sometimes I think that Orly was given counsel similar to that or that her culture gap steers her in that direction. She seems to think that the best way to “work” a trial is to always interpret and report any episode as being in her favor, even when a careful evaluation would reveal otherwise. It's like she thinks the judges will be fooled into calling "ball four" just because she started her cheerful jog down the first base line.

I would guess that if judges actually get wind of these antics, it would only serve to annoy them.

But then again, that's only a guess.

[Bikkuri]

Let him who hath understanding reckon the number of the beast, for it is a human number...