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Defendants in ACORN Suit Could Be Protected by Constitution
Fox News via Big Government ^ | 9/28/2009 | Ken Klukowski

Posted on 09/28/2009 5:47:28 PM PDT by GVnana

The courts should vindicate the First Amendment rights of the reporters and media outlets involved in breaking the ACORN scandal wide open. And they should strike down the oppressive and absurd Maryland law that makes it a crime to record someone’s conversation without their knowledge.

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Maryland has a shockingly-broad law that makes it a crime—a felony, if fact—to record someone’s conversation without their knowledge. It then makes it a separate crime to disclose that conversation to a third party if the person disclosing knew or had reason to know that the conversation was illegally recorded.

Although the Baltimore prosecutor hasn’t filed charges, ACORN and the two workers caught on tape advising the reporters on how to carry out the underage sexual exploitation scheme have had the audacity to sue the reporters and Breitbart.com. They can do this because § 10–410 of the same Maryland wiretapping law also gives private parties the right to personally sue those who record or disclose such conversations.

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This Maryland statute is insane. But it’s not only ridiculous, it could also be unconstitutional as applied to these defendants.

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The Free Speech Clause of the First Amendment confers special protections. One of these is the overbreadth doctrine: A law targeting certain types of speech violates the First Amendment if it also burdens a substantial amount of speech that should be constitutionally protected. The court declares the law “overbroad,” and then strikes it down.

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So the defendants here should make sure their legal team includes experts in First Amendment law, and immediately raise a First Amendment defense. Having raised a federal issue, they should then remove this case from Maryland state court to the federal district court in Maryland.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0keefe; acorn; alfranken; communists; democrats; giles; hannahgiles; obama; obamasbuddies
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1 posted on 09/28/2009 5:47:28 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: GVnana

The Constitution? Pfffff what’s that pesky thing got to do with anything? It’s standin’ in the way of real hope and change. /sarc


2 posted on 09/28/2009 5:49:57 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: GVnana
A codified body of Law, we should try it sometime.
3 posted on 09/28/2009 5:50:23 PM PDT by tired1 (When the Devil eats you there's only one way out.)
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To: GVnana

Wouldn’t James and Hannah’s case fall under the whistle-blower’s protection laws?


4 posted on 09/28/2009 5:52:11 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: GVnana
Oh, look.

It's a communist lawyer from ACORN, only this one sneaks cigarettes while forcing new taxes on anyone who drinks soda.


5 posted on 09/28/2009 5:53:55 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: GVnana
ACORN filing a lawsuit only means airing more of their dirty laundry, as opposed to destroying the reputations of O'Keefe and Giles. Just today Bank of America announced it is severing it ties with the organization, and yet another bombshell exploded when an ACORN board member from JP Morgan Chase stepped down.

As someone pinged me on that earlier thread, the Rats are deserting the sinking ship.

6 posted on 09/28/2009 5:55:25 PM PDT by T Lady (The MSM: Pravda West)
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To: GVnana

The Man From A.C.O.R.N.
 

7 posted on 09/28/2009 5:55:57 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: netmilsmom

I don’t think so. Whistleblowers must be a part of the organization they are exposing.


8 posted on 09/28/2009 5:57:16 PM PDT by GVnana (Sarah for America)
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Is it constitutional to enforce it selectively for partisan effect? I can’t believe that this is the first time a reporter pulled this in Md.


9 posted on 09/28/2009 5:57:36 PM PDT by Brilliant
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Whistleblowers must be a part of the organization they are exposing.

So you can't blow the whistle from the outside?

Isn't blowing the whistle....blowing the whistle, no matter where you blow it from?

10 posted on 09/28/2009 6:03:16 PM PDT by SteamShovel (When hope trumps reality, there is no hope at all.)
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To: Brilliant

On another thread, somebody mentioned that the ACORN workers weren’t acting in the capacity of “private parties,” but employees of a business organization.


11 posted on 09/28/2009 6:05:05 PM PDT by HoosierHawk (www.firstsundaymusic.com)
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To: Brilliant

The State of Maryland isn’t touching this one. ACORN and the two workers filed a civil suit.


12 posted on 09/28/2009 6:06:19 PM PDT by GVnana (Sarah for America)
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I don’t think so. Whistleblowers must be a part of the organization they are exposing.

What if....
What if there was a dirty cop who was harassing you. You decide to secretly record his activities and make them public. You are not part of the police department but might be considered a "whistle-blower".

Now, what if ACORN was acting as an agent of the government, taking government money, working out of a government subsidized office space, giving out advice on how to work with (or around) the government - housing, tax advice, employment advice, etc.? You figure out they are dirty and secretly tape them. You are not part of ACORN,but are you acting to blow a whistle?

Is there a difference?

13 posted on 09/28/2009 6:07:27 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: GVnana

ACORN is nuts. Do they realize that this suit gives the reporters the ability to subpoena documents from ACORN and to put the employees and officers of ACORN under oath in depositions?


14 posted on 09/28/2009 6:08:05 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: GVnana

We have the same law here in IL - and it’s never going to change, because:

1) It protects elected officials from citizens recording their behavior.

2) It protects their businesses contributors from citizens recording their behavior.


15 posted on 09/28/2009 6:08:17 PM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: GVnana

Illinois has a very similar law that broadly forbids recording conversations without consent.

A summary can be found here.

http://www.rcfp.org/taping/states/illinois.html


16 posted on 09/28/2009 6:08:55 PM PDT by GLH3IL (Slainte Mhath)
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To: SERKIT

Legally, yes. There is a difference. Whistleblower laws pertain to EMPLOYEES. See http://whistleblowerlaws.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=141&Itemid=54


17 posted on 09/28/2009 6:11:56 PM PDT by GVnana (Sarah for America)
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I don’t think so. Whistleblowers must be a part of the organization they are exposing.

That must be why Daniel Ellsberg got off scot-free after revealing classified information to the New York Times.

18 posted on 09/28/2009 6:18:31 PM PDT by Steely Tom
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To: SteamShovel
Nope. I think this author is on the right track when discussing the "overbroad" arguement.

The Free Speech Clause of the First Amendment confers special protections. One of these is the overbreadth doctrine: A law targeting certain types of speech violates the First Amendment if it also burdens a substantial amount of speech that should be constitutionally protected. The court declares the law “overbroad,” and then strikes it down.

There are far fewer Free Press Clause cases, but generally the courts extend and apply free speech doctrines to cover the media as well. If anything, the media has additional protection, as it exists to inform “We the People” and enables “We the People” aka us to hold government accountable, as well as private entities.

19 posted on 09/28/2009 6:19:59 PM PDT by GVnana (Sarah for America)
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Soooooo if you have a dirty cop and expose him, or you find a government agency (or agent of the government) doing something wrong and secretly tape incriminating evidence....while it might not be considered “whistle-blower” in the legal definition, we shouldn’t expose it?


20 posted on 09/28/2009 6:26:26 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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