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U.S. Rally is Doomed, Gold Will Hit $5000
Yahoo ^ | September 24, 2009 | Aaron Task

Posted on 09/24/2009 7:37:14 AM PDT by madison10

Unlike the "legitimate bull markets" of many foreign markets, Peter Schiff believes the U.S. is merely experiencing a "rally in a bear market," and is lagging the rest of the world "for a reason."

The worst is not over, according to Euro Pacific Capital's Schiff, who predicts the Dow will fall another 90% from current levels when measured against gold.

A longtime dollar bear and gold bull, he foresees gold hitting $5000 per ounce "in the next couple of years," and predicts the Dow and gold will trade on a one-to-one ratio vs. the current level of around 9.7-to-1.

Schiff believes gold is currently "climbing a wall of worry" but will eventually become as hot as tech stocks in 1999 and start moving up $100 per day.

Schiff's forecast is based on his view the U.S. dollar is going to collapse under the weight of our massive deficit and reckless policies of the Obama administration, which he compares to the massive spending programs of the 1960s, which paved the way for gold's ascent in the 1970s. "Obama is making the same mistakes as Bush, but he's doing them on a grander scale," says Schiff, who is running for U.S. Senate in Connecticut as a Republican...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bhoeconomy; connecticut; debt; deficit; dollar; economy; gold; imaginary; inflation; investing; obama; peterschiff; recession; republican; thecomingdepression; thecomingdpression; usdollar
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Is Peter Schiff just being hopeful 'cause he has a ton of gold sitting somewhere, or does this make sense?
1 posted on 09/24/2009 7:37:15 AM PDT by madison10
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To: madison10

It makes sense if you set your brains’ controls on “11” while you happen to be entering a tunnel and then spill Pepsi on the dashboard, LOL.


2 posted on 09/24/2009 7:40:27 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (It's better to give a Ford to the Kidney Foundation than a kidney to the Ford Foundation.)
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To: madison10
Doomed. Also, Dogs and cats living together. Total Anarchy.

If you ask 2 economists "How are things going?" ....you'll get at least 3 opinions.

Me? Well, I think that things aren't going very well, but it ain't the end of the world yet, either.

3 posted on 09/24/2009 7:41:41 AM PDT by wbill
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To: madison10

He’s right. We’ve fixed none of the fundamentals and have, instead, gone at our economy with a Marxist wrecking ball.


4 posted on 09/24/2009 7:41:42 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: madison10

When did Noah prepare the Ark? BEFORE the flood...


5 posted on 09/24/2009 7:43:38 AM PDT by Freddd
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To: madison10
I like Schiff, but $5000 would be a major SHTF scenario. If that is the case, then I would see more usable commodities having a better chance of such a gain, such as oil for example. If such a SHTF scenario takes place, it would be hard to predict what happens with currency and commodities. People's and nation's attitudes and priorities would change and currency trade may move to what is more necessary versus what has simply a perceived value (be it fiat or commodity).

Also, consider that for the value to reach $5000, that would be a ratio of dollars to the commodity. Considering the debt problem is world wide, not isolated into a single country, supply and demand may take a hold and you may not have someone or a country willing to pay this much as their currency is crashing as well.

6 posted on 09/24/2009 7:43:40 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: madison10

I think $5000 gold is plausible, but it would come in large part due to dollar devaulation, which will mean that the Dow will tend to be priced high due to inflation.

Of course, gold just dropped 2% in the last hour, so who knows.


7 posted on 09/24/2009 7:44:46 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Socialism: The sin of envy, masquerading as a political movement.)
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To: madison10

Peter was right about the housing collapse, but I think he was premature about the gold boom. I have no gold at all but wish I did.

And don’t tell anyone, but silver has farther to move upward than gold. ;)


8 posted on 09/24/2009 7:45:28 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: mnehring

Agreed. I think if we get to the point where gold is $5k per ounce, we’ll have bigger problems. Like getting food and not freezing to death in the winter.

I am increasingly beginning to believe that this is a matter when, not if.


9 posted on 09/24/2009 7:46:09 AM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: wbill

President Truman often said he wished he could find an economist with just one hand. Why? He said that if you ask a question of an economist, you get an answer. Then the economist will always say “on the other hand, Mr. President.”

Things are grim, but I have a feeling that we will dig ourselves out of this before much longer. That includes taking back the House in 2010. If that happens, Mr. Obama’s days are numbered. Hell, I think they’re numbered anyway. The MSM is beginning to get a mite hinky on him, and a lot of Obama voters must be getting buyer’s remorse in a large way.

He is not a likable figure, and he has no sense of humor. He also uses the word “I” frequently. Not good.


10 posted on 09/24/2009 7:46:56 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: madison10

Some of the German investment banks are predicting $2000+ per ounce over the next couple years, so $5000 over the next several years is not impossible. Supposedly the Chinese are urging their people to buy silver, so that would also mean some gold purchases also.


11 posted on 09/24/2009 7:47:25 AM PDT by ikka (Brother, you asked for it!)
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To: IrishCatholic

Gerald Celenti said last night that they are going to manipulate the dollar’s strength upwards again.


12 posted on 09/24/2009 7:48:21 AM PDT by goldi (')
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To: Beelzebubba; madison10
I think $5000 gold is plausible, but it would come in large part due to dollar devaulation, which will mean that the Dow will tend to be priced high due to inflation.

Another way it *could* hit this without massive dollar devaluation is if a country such as China or India undergoes a massive stockpiling of gold. For example, if China decides they want the Yuan to be a global standard currency and they want to have it backed, at least in part by gold, to make it competitive, they could make a run on the gold market- supply and demand would dictate the cost goes up. At the same time, the dollar's value against its standard competitors such as the Yen or Euro may not change as much as they are also being impacted by the same change in global currency demand.

13 posted on 09/24/2009 7:48:34 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Zeddicus

Invest in salt. :->


14 posted on 09/24/2009 7:49:23 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: madison10

Gold and silver BOTH are dropping like rocks... 7:49 Pacific time and both are going straight down on the charts. What the heck is going on? http://www.kitco.com/charts/livesilver.html


15 posted on 09/24/2009 7:50:06 AM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Zeddicus
While I agree the economies are sick, and may be having a pre-death rally, still, whenever I read these, I read "I bought at $1,000 and need to drive the pices up FAST before I have to cover."

My metals dealers keep telling me the smart money has all be made. By the time it comes down to TV Commercials, all it means is that people want to sell high to the last group in. As usual.

16 posted on 09/24/2009 7:50:16 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Roark, Architect.)
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To: goldi

Did he perchance say how they were going to do that?


17 posted on 09/24/2009 7:50:33 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: NeoCaveman

uplift ping


18 posted on 09/24/2009 7:51:19 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: RexBeach
If that happens, Mr. Obama’s days are numbered. Hell, I think they’re numbered anyway. The MSM is beginning to get a mite hinky on him, and a lot of Obama voters must be getting buyer’s remorse in a large way.

I hope you're right, but unfortunately he has at least 3.5 years to do a lot of irreversable damage. I wonder if the people of this country will ever realize the huge disaster they voted for last Nov?

19 posted on 09/24/2009 7:52:09 AM PDT by RedStateGuyTrappedinCT
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To: madison10

RUN FOR THE HILLS !


20 posted on 09/24/2009 7:53:04 AM PDT by traumer
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