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Intelligent Design Found in DNA
CEH ^ | September 17, 2009

Posted on 09/17/2009 8:58:03 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Sept 17, 2009 — Readers of this headline may say it is not news to say that intelligent design has been found in DNA. Others may be ready for a fight on that issue. But in this case, the design has been verified beyond any shadow of doubt. The designers are not who you may be suspecting. They are...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: byu; catholic; christian; creation; evangelical; evolution; intelligentdesign; lds; lutheran; mormon; science
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1 posted on 09/17/2009 8:58:03 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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Ping :op


2 posted on 09/17/2009 8:59:24 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Researchers from BYU.

Alrighty.


4 posted on 09/17/2009 9:01:30 AM PDT by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: GodGunsGuts

Intelligent design is never going to be “found” in anything, only intuited. The enormity of the design plan is bigger than the universe. It might even be bigger than the multiverse (if string theory is accurate).

If you are trying to simplify it all to a magical creation moment (or six), you will be sorely disappointed.


5 posted on 09/17/2009 9:05:42 AM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Click the link, it’s a setup for stupidity. The letters were typed using intelligent design, so our DNA must be created the same way.


6 posted on 09/17/2009 9:05:52 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: GodGunsGuts

PSEUDOSCIENCE!!! It’s just a ‘trick of natue’!!! We ‘just haven’t found the mechanism yet whereby nature ‘created’ what ‘looks like’ Intelligent Design yet’!!! Heresy!!! ‘You’re just tryign to ‘sneak religion into the clasrooms’!!!

There, now that that’s out of hte way lol


7 posted on 09/17/2009 9:06:21 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Just so.


8 posted on 09/17/2009 9:06:24 AM PDT by FairWitness
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To: GodGunsGuts
The source article is interesting, so what?

Kind of like saying that the carving on Mount Rushmore isn't a naturally occurring geological formation.

9 posted on 09/17/2009 9:07:18 AM PDT by stormer
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Thay's like saying, "If you're going to say that War and Peace was designed by an intelligence, then you might as well say that the structure of the atom proves intelligent design, because everything in the book is made from component atoms."
10 posted on 09/17/2009 9:07:35 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (They pour flaming jet fuel on people to please their god. How shall we respond?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Did you read the article?

PS On a serious note...from an origins standpoint, ID is the best explanation for the complex, functionally specified, digital code that is our DNA. For the only known (and therefore empirical) cause of such codes are intelligent designers. Evolution has no explanation for DNA whatsoever, as all of their attempts to find naturalistic explanations for the same have failed. As such, ID is currently the inference to the best explanation for the origin of DNA.


11 posted on 09/17/2009 9:09:41 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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Intelligent design is never going to be “found” in anything, only intuited.

Ah, so if you find a digital watch and conclude it was designed by an intelligence, you've only intuited that? If not, why would a biological structure be any different?

If you are trying to simplify it all to a magical creation moment (or six), you will be sorely disappointed.

God is so very limited, after all.

12 posted on 09/17/2009 9:11:53 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (They pour flaming jet fuel on people to please their god. How shall we respond?)
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To: Soothesayer

My cat is a big believer in string theory. Could toy with that one for hours.


13 posted on 09/17/2009 9:12:30 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: CottShop

LOL...but you do cause me to ponder an interesting point. Now that genetic engineering is coming into its own, pretty soon crime investigators will have to start learning how to detect intelligently designed DNA, for it’s only a matter of time before hi-tech criminals figure out how to forge genetic signatures!


14 posted on 09/17/2009 9:13:40 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
If you're going to say that DNA proves intelligent design, then you might as well say that the structure of the atom proves intelligent design, because all the chemical properties of the DNA molecule derive from the component atoms.

Seriously? That's your argument?

The problem of DNA absent ID is the informational properties of DNA. Put all of the atomic elements that comprise DNA together, and they will never make DNA (it's been tried ad-nauseum). Give yourself a head-start by taking individual nucleotides and mix them together, and you will get meaningless bits of DNA. Sort of like taking a million scrabble letters, randomly sequencing them and expecting to get a book chapter. It's all about the information.
15 posted on 09/17/2009 9:14:33 AM PDT by armydoc
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
If you're going to say that DNA proves intelligent design, then you might as well say that the structure of the atom proves intelligent design, because all the chemical properties of the DNA molecule derive from the component atoms.

That doesn't follow. That's like saying that because you find a message in english on a beach written using rocks, the rocks must have been intelligently designed.

It is precisely because the message content of DNA is NOT a "chemical property" that we can infer intelligent design from it. If DNA message content could be shown to be merely a chemical property then the case for intelligent design of DNA would be falsified.

17 posted on 09/17/2009 9:27:13 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (Democrats are not in control. God is. And Thank God for that!)
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To: Soothesayer

What do you believe the “design plan” is?


18 posted on 09/17/2009 9:46:23 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

I’m surprised Lawyers haven’t startyed arguing for the defendendts by claiming “PSEUDOSCIENCE!!! It’s just a ‘trick of natue’!!! We ‘just haven’t found the mechanism yet whereby nature ‘created’ what ‘looks like’ an Intelligently Designed crime scene yet’!!! Heresy!!! ‘You’re just tryign to ‘sneak religion into the Courtroom”!!!


19 posted on 09/17/2009 9:52:07 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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Oriental Iraeli American Indians- Talk abotu an indentity crisis lol


20 posted on 09/17/2009 9:54:00 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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