[curiosity]

“Why shouldn’t Obama make his vault birth certificate public?”

Because the Certification of Live Birth that he posted suffices to prove his birth in Hawaii, and there is absolutely no reason to believe he was born anywhere else. Also, you have to be a loon to think it plausible that a woman 8 months pregnant, in 1961, would travel half way around the world to Kenya, just to give birth in third world conditions, at a time when the journey would likely take several days and multiple modes of highly primitive transportation.

And no, it is not true that any of his relatives in Kenya claim to have whitnessed his birth there.

I suppose, if Bambi really wanted to, he could release his vault copy. But why should he, if keeping it hidden gets his opposition distracted with this birther nonsense?

After going through the exercise of explaining that the one that was displayed on the web has as much validity as a carnival novelty item

That's why, I suppose, the State Department accepts it as proof of US birth in passport applications. LOL. You birthers are funny.

Everything else you say in your post is simply, and categorically false.

(Sun Yat-Sen, the father of modern China has one,

Not true. Sun Yat-Sen fruadulantly obtained a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth from the TERRITORY of Hawaii, 50 years before Obama was born and 48 years before Hawaii became a state.

That's not the same thing as the STATE-issued Certification of Live Birth that Obama posted.

as does Obama’s Indonesan born sister)

Not true.

and that newspaper notices can be placed by grandparents,

Not true. The newspaper announcements were based on data received directly from the Hawaii Department of Health. It says so right at the top of the newspaper page where they are printed, scanned copies of which are available all over the web. Did you even bother to look at them?

You really ought to try to verify things you read on the internet before accepting them wholesale.

[Canadian Outrage]

From the LIBERAL State of Washington? I can likely guarantee that you are an Obama supporter and voted for this man. Those who have been deceived choose to remain that way unfortunately. I hope you are enjoying what this bum is doing to your country. My American cousins, one from the State of Washington, are not!! CO

[kidd]

Oh goody. I found an anti-birther to play with.

The COLB that was posted on the web (by the leftist fightthesmears.com) was full of redacted information and does not contain the country of birth...it is a computer generated form, derived from a database.

This article notes that there were 4 ways to get a Hawaiian certificate of birth in 1961, some not requiring documentation: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2304157/posts

I made no claims about a Kenyan birth. You assumed it though. Understandable. To be an anti-birther you MUST make assumptions.

However, along your lines of thought, it is implausible that Mrs. Obama gave birth in Hawaii and less than two weeks later was taking classes in Washington state.

Certain offices of the state of Hawaii do not accept the COLB that was posted on the web and require the vault form: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=100451

Also, Obama’s sister: http://www.examiner.com/x-14143-Orange-County-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m7d27-Did-you-know-Obamas-half-sister-born-in-Indonesia-has-a-Hawaiian-Certification-of-Live-Birth

The relevancy of the newspaper article is related to who generated the vault copy of the birth certificate. And yes, the grandparents could have generated the vault copy, as that was permissible in 1961 Hawaii.

[itsahoot]

You really ought to try to verify things you read on the internet before accepting them wholesale.

Good advice, you should take it. Your arguments are at best, diversions.

The things we don't know about this man would fill volumes.

[El Gato]

Not true. The newspaper announcements were based on data received directly from the Hawaii Department of Health. It says so right at the top of the newspaper page where they are printed, scanned copies of which are available all over the web. Did you even bother to look at them?

Those images were produced from a single reel of microfilm. Not from the original newspapers, and not from a microfilm obtained from the newspapers either. From a library, where they had been checked out not long before they were "discovered". Strangely no one has been able to find the newspaper announcement of the Nordyke twins birth, the day after Obama's is said to have been. But images of certified copies of their original long form are to be found, originally published by the Honolulu Advertiser, but now the story with them is no longer accessible, at least not at the original URL. Interestingly the younger of two has a file sequence number 3 lower than that shown on the FactCheck version of the Obama COLB, despite the fact that they were born 19 hours *after* he was, and according to their long form, and his COLB, his certificate was filed 3 days before theirs. Just another anomaly, in a sea of others surrounding BHO Jr.

One of the newspapers now says on their "vital records" page that the date indicated is not the birth or marriage license date, but rather the date the document was filed. If that was true in '61, then there's another little problem for the newspaper announcements visa vi the online COLB.

[El Gato]

and there is absolutely no reason to believe he was born anywhere else.

Other than this that is:

Forgery? Maybe, but then again so may this be the KOS, FTS, Factcheck etc CoLB, all or merely some of them.