Posted on 09/02/2009 2:23:07 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla
California has a new endangered species on its hands in the San Joaquin Valleyâfarmers. Thanks to environmental regulations designed to protect the likes of the three-inch long delta smelt, one of America's premier agricultural regions is suffering in a drought made worse by federal regulations.
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Unexpected and undesirable consquences are native to the environmental movement. The millions of deaths as a consequence of the DDT ban are just the beginning. Consider higher food pricesÂand as a result, less foodÂin third world countries because of evironmentalists' irrational fear of genemod crops and pesticides.In fact, so patent are the often horrifying natural consequences of environmentalist policies that many suspect they aren't actually undesired by their proponents. I'm trying to give the EPA the benefit of the doubt when it comes to diverting water from a drought-plagued state, but it's difficult in the face of the history of the environmental movement. [emphasis added]
I think they know very well.
I think this is part of Obama’s plan to take over the agricultural and food production and distribution industries, on the one hand, and part of the ecofreaks’ plans to destroy all human habitation, on the other.
If it were just a matter of water, they’d be building desalination plants yesterday off the coast of CA. But it’s not really that...
Thanks.
This has been a issue for a while. Paul Rodriguez, the comedian owns a farm in this area. He campaigned heavily for the dimwits of that state, but when he went to Suckramento to talk about this, he was shown the door by the same people he donated to, held benefits for etc.... I listened to his story on Sirius Patriot 144 and at the time of the interview, has since seen the light. He announced on that interview that he would support the conservatives from here on out. Of course, that is not to say it won’t change again over time, but that is a popular ethic entertainer not giving his support to the dimwits.
bttt
Just watch for who's buying when the farmers give out.
this started pre Obama
I think this is going to be pretty common...more and more people are suddenly going to realize what’s going on.
As I said, green is bad. Whenever I hear the term I know it’s left wing garbage to tear down America and build a Soviet Union West.
You can’t ignore the military significance of the rural land where those who cling to their guns and religion live. Red v. Blue. They, Waxman/Obama/Schumer/etc., want the small (and mid-sized) farmers who live on their farms gone or at least disarmed to the extent that various government agencies can enter their premises at any time without a judge’s warrant. Small towns are taking a hit too.
It’s rural cleansing for a reason.
It definitely started before Obama, because even while Bush made the ecofreaks back off a little, he got very apologetic towards the end and for some reason turned California over to them.
That said, there are certainly reasons for preserving the smelt, because they are the food for bigger fish, and unless you have the little fish, you won’t have the big fish. My son is a fisherman and lives in Northern CA.
However, the ecofreaks are not really concerned about fishing or water, but really want to shut down human development of the land; and now they have a president and his whole administration who is 100% behind them.
Obama will use this for his own purposes (to take over the ag industry and turn it over to the unions) while others, such as Van Jones, will use it for their bizarre eco purposes (to stifle human enterprise in CA).
Makes you wonder if their long-term intention is to create a famine and starve people out.
Karl — yes, this started pre-Obama. However, the people who favor this war were also favored by Bush and Schwarzenkennedy.
Had livius chosen her name because of love of Roman History (or even its poetry), the following might be more familiar.
Those who seek power tend not to be so smart as understanding people and fear and jealousies. They look for patterns that work. Hence the trend of our current statists making use of Marxist/Fascist techniques. And also what it took to undermine the last great republic that preceded ours — the ancient Roman republic.
I look at the combined presidencies of W and Obama as bearing too much similarity to the 8 year rule of the Consul Marius of the late republic. Under the guise of reforming land holdings and “fairly” opening roman citizenship to illegal aliens, Marius increased the hold of some members of the upper classes by paying entitlements to the urban proles — from the tax coffers. Sound familiar?
Anyway, Sulla killed him, and then resigned as dictator after four years — with the republic restored — on paper only. But the republic was on borrowed time. Hence my screenname. The breech was to the culture more than the politics and the power. And powerhungers in our own time don’t mind waiting while they set things us so that WE tear us down so they can gain control.
That is what Congress did. Article 1 Section 1 of the Constitution, which grants all legislative power to Congress, a power granted by the states to the federal government has largely been sluffed off to administrative agencies.
Congress doesn't write the regulations with force of law that govern us, out of control agencies like Fish and Wildlilfe do. We can unelect congressmen, we can do nothing about the petty tyrants who ruin real lives. It's kinda slick, we wail and your local Congress critter can shrug his shoulders and say he had nothing to do with draconian regs.
Damn them all.
Well, that’s true and not true.
I think W’s stay would have been much different if he hadn’t been in the situation of first of trying to court the leftwing after they turned against him over Iraq, and then trying to assuage a Democratic majority in the legislature and a completely hostile press that was something no Roman could ever have imagined.
Bush was a fighter in only one area, and that was militarily, in dealing with foreign enemies; but in terms of promoting his own programs, he was a conciliator, and he really thought that by doing what the press and the Dems (and the RINOs) wanted, he would make everything ok and be loved. The truth was that they scented weakness and that made them even more determined to tear him down.
So I think there are significant differences between us and Rome. Furthermore, many of the bad Bush policies were actually things that Clinton had started, Bush had dropped initially, and to which he then returned a few years later, vainly hoping to mollify his critics.
So I would say that Clinton and Bush might be more in the Consul Marius mode, and Obama is the next step...but one much more radical than Bush or Clinton (or even Rome) could have imagined.
In Rome the next radical leader after Marius was Julius Caesar. Obama seems to be following in his and Caesar Augustus' footsteps in his mind.
Did your son tell you that this smelt is not indigenous to CA but was imported here in the 1940s? The big fish lived fine before they were imported, I am sure they can make it after the smelt are gone. For one thing these pumps have been running for years and the smelt are still here, why is it suddenly imperative to stop the water now. This is a BS scam for whatever reason(probably to starve us as all communist do their populations)and needs to be stopped. If water was the problem and they are truly concerned(they aren't)they would be building desalinization plants up and down the coast of CA and feeding all the water the farmers need without having to divert any from the rivers.
They don't build them so their aim is nefarious not alturistic!
Sounds like a Nature Conservancy ploy writ massive.
They’ve often connived with the EPA and politicians to make land they want valueless, then swoop in and buy it for a song.
Maybe Obama means to give them the entire San Joaquin Valley?
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