Posted on 09/01/2009 9:56:55 AM PDT by IbJensen
At a recent Congressional town hall meeting I attended, I was astounded by the positions being taken by the outnumbered group of advocates for socializing American medicine.
The Founding Fathers a group whose distrust and skepticism about the size and scope of the national government is epic were surely doing back flips in their graves as seemingly intelligent Americans willfully stood up and championed the notion of handing over their healthcare to bureaucrats in Washington. Regardless of your political leanings, it was a chilling sight to see a group of citizens standing and applauding the loss of their own freedom.
But more bizarre than that was a sign that had been placed on a pro-ObamaCare table near the front of the stage. It simply read: "Jesus would vote yes."
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A listener to my radio show suggested to me that perhaps "Jesus" -- pronounced "Hay-Soos" in Spanish -- was referring to an illegal immigrant who would undoubtedly vote in favor of a plan guaranteed to further saddle American taxpayers with the burden of paying for those unwilling to obey the law.
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There are a couple initial observations that need to be made before we address the core, "Jesus as socialist" madness. First, for a movement so petrified by any perceived confluence of faith and politics, the left has kicked the Bible-banging into high gear recently.
Liberal talker Ed Schultz called socializing healthcare a "moral obligation" ...
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But even President Obama got into the act. Convening a group of ministers on a conference call, the president told them that his healthcare plans accomplish the "core moral and ethical obligation that we look out for one another...that I am my brother's keeper, my sister's keeper."
(Excerpt) Read more at onenewsnow.com ...
The epitome of a violation of the 3rd commandment -
do not misuse the Name of the Lord.
“Liberal talker Ed Schultz called socializing healthcare a “moral obligation” ... “
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No Ed, Christ’s teaching centers on YOU personally helping the poor-out of your pocket and your time, but by YOUR own free will choice. Free will is a big part of this, you see.
The manadates of an envy-driven, class warfare socialist state in which your tithe to the poor is coerced literally at the point of a gun, is not, in the least, Christ-like.
Too funny. For the record, I am a Christian and I am offended by the What would Jesus do crowd. Jesus did not tell us to have the Government take care of the poor and downtrodden. He told us to do it.
So they went. Going out again about the sixth hour and the ninth hour, he did the same. And about the eleventh hour he went out and found others standing. And he said to them, 'Why do you stand here idle all day?' They said to him, 'Because no one has hired us.' He said to them, 'You go into the vineyard too.' And when evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, 'Call the laborers and pay them their wages, beginning with the last, up to the first.' And when those hired about the eleventh hour came, each of them received a denarius. Now when those hired first came, they thought they would receive more, but each of them also received a denarius. And on receiving it they grumbled at the master of the house, saying, 'These last worked only one hour, and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden of the day and the scorching heat.'
But he replied to one of them, 'Friend, I am doing you no wrong. Did you not agree with me for a denarius? Take what belongs to you and go. I choose to give to this last worker as I give to you. Am I not allowed to do what I choose with what belongs to me? Or do you begrudge my generosity?'"
(Matthew 20:1-15 ESV)
You stealin’ my posts again?
8th commandment... :)
Socialism in no way satisfies the Christian requirement to help the needy.
For those advocating it without their own skin in the game, it does nothing, for they have desire without substance.
For those being forced to “help”, their “contribution” counts for naught because they aren’t doing it of their own choice.
2 Corinthians 9:7 (New International Version)
7Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.
Jesus doesn't vote. Jesus commands.
Yes.
That’s what I have always understood.
Thanks for the scripture citation.
Spot on, Mr. B. Anyone who has absolutely no desire to commune with Christ, yet uses his name to further their agenda, is taking The Lord’s name in vain.
And from what I read, God doesn’t forget things like that.
MrB: that is the best sermon about leftism I have ever read. Thanks for posting it! It should be required reading by everyone on Earth.
Seriously, this is what I thought too.
I've been spamming every thread with it where it is tangentially related.
You packed a lot of truth in 4 words...
how about these ...
would would would
as in, IF He were here, or IF He were watching...
they automatically assume neither, and yet try to skewer us with it.
comedy, and tragedy, for one high price!
Just for the record, so am I. And, so I am.
Jesus was in many ways one of the first “liberal Jews” due to his departure from legalistic Judaism (ie the primacy of the law) and was definitely left-of-center within his historical contexts. I wouldn’t exactly consider him an exponent of “scientific socialism” (a product of the industrialization that would occur some 1,800 years later), but the early apostles were definitely proto-Kibbutzniks.
In socialism, we have an attempt by the government to replace what God’s people are commanded to do. It’s just an attempt by Satan to counterfeit the role of the church. Show me any socialistic country where Christianity is vibrant. I’ve never found any. It squeezes out the Christian faith by taking resources from the individual (which might have gone to charity, etc.) and replaces it with a huge “benevolent” government.
Our Lord acknowledged that we are to pay our taxes
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