Obama Administration: Depressed and Disabled Veterans Should Consider Foregoing Medical Care

IsraPundit ^ | 8/19/09 | Bill Levinson

[Winged Hussar]

Depression, disability, and "being a financial burden" could constitute "Lebensunwerte Leben" (Life Unworthy of Life) in U.S. Government end of life planning document

"The Death Book for Veterans: Ex-soldiers don't need to be told they're a burden to society" by Jim Towey in today's (August 18) Wall Street Journal says,

Last year, bureaucrats at the VA's National Center for Ethics in Health Care advocated a 52-page end-of-life planning document, "Your Life, Your Choices." It was first published in 1997 and later promoted as the VA's preferred living will throughout its vast network of hospitals and nursing homes. After the Bush White House took a look at how this document was treating complex health and moral issues, the VA suspended its use. Unfortunately, under President Obama, the VA has now resuscitated "Your Life, Your Choices."

We downloaded this document directly from the Veterans Administration, and the content suggests that both family finances and depression--a non-terminal illness--could constitute Lebensunwerte Leben, or "life unworthy of life." Smoke is generally indicative of fire and, although HR 3200 says nothing about mandatory end of life planning, euthanasia, or anything else similar to Germany's Aktion T4 program--the euthanasia program that served as a precedent for the Holocaust--we have shown (http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=16320) that there is indeed fire to go with the smoke. "Your Life, Your Choices" is simply more evidence, and it even suggests that war veterans with depression consider themselves a burden on the society that sent them to war.

[prayin4_swcb]

I like your illustration....That’s a likely response from someone that would NOT make his daughters pay for some mistake (like getting pregnant), he indicated that he would have the unwanted babies aborted! They obviously don’t care much about the lives of others, just their own miserable lives! With that in mind, yes he would be willing to put 50 million in that BIG hole!!

It’s too bad that freeper ‘the long march’ and his cohort ‘Gondring’ , especially ‘the long march’ is making this more about himself or herself than anything else.
All I was saying in response to ‘the long march’, was the government is using the power of suggestion (by circling the response ) that in their opinion should be your correct answer...that is the power of suggestion. That is very wrong and blatantly despicable as far I’m concerned an EVIL thing to do to our Veterans or anyone else for that matter!!

Yes, I do think it is a good idea to consider ahead of time what decisions you might like to make when you come to the end of your life. Yes, I do think you should maybe appoint a person you would like to be in charge of your medical directives and put into writing, but certainly NOT the Feds sticking papers under your nose to read and declare what decisions you’ve made under their power of suggestion to you.
‘Gongring’ indicated that to ‘Winged Hussar’, in his post...

“Thank you for the link to the booklet...everyone should consider these issues and it’s very helpful. I guess Obama has done some good things. Getting rid of “Your Life, Our Choices” of the Bush Administration is admirable. “

Freeper ‘Gondring’ needs to get the facts straight! President Bush in the one that put an end to the VA Admin, using these particular type of questions on our Veterans.
Obama and his administration has re-instituted.....this trashy and EVIL type of questionnaire!!

Plain and simple what the government is trying to do with this and by overriding the opinions of the millions of Americans that do not want this kind of healthcare is just Wrong!!!

Maybe what we’ve been bantering back and forth with are a couple of trolls!!!

[Gondring]

There is no such thing as euthanasia in a Christian society.

I think you mean, in a Augustine society. It wasn't for several centuries after Christ's death and departure that The Church reversed position and banned suicide and euthanasia.

[Gondring]

Thank you for illustrating the importance of this booklet and discussing the issues before getting into that state.

[Gondring]

You fell for the dishonest presentation of this. Go to the original, not the altered version that was posted.

[Grampa Dave]

See Michelle, I told you that we had plenty of space to put all of the old and worthless Americans and worthless depressed and disabled veterans in and get them out of the way. We could put about 50 million of them in that big hole. Then, we can use their estate taxes to fund the 40 million former illegals, who are now our voters and needing healthcare.

[Cyropaedia]

That’s a sobering list of questions...

[Gondring]

I wrote, and you quoted: >>[...] Getting rid of “Your Life, Our Choices” of the Bush Administration is admirable.

You wrote: >[...]Freeper ‘Gondring’ needs to get the facts straight! President Bush in the one that put an end to the VA Admin, using these particular type of questions on our Veterans. [...]

Actually, read carefully. "Your Life, Our Choices" is what I wrote... in other words, the Bush Administration did not provide any information, but simply removed information from veterans. I can only assume they wanted veterans kept in the dark; if they had a preferred way of conveying this information, they had 8 years to provide it.

[the long march]

I am not a troll. Always nice to know that because you don’t agree 100% with someone that you must be an enemy