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Fake Obama Kenya birth certificate?
http://www.scribd.com/doc/18018714/Fake-Obama-Kenya-birth-certificate ^ | 08/02/2009

Posted on 08/02/2009 4:56:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

And then one of our moderators spotted this:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/18018714/Fake-Obama-Kenya-birth-certificate

It has several clues, but also there's this question:

Who is E. F. Lavender?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=earth+friendly+lavender&aq=f&oq=&aqi

Earth Friendly Lavender detergent?


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To: P-Marlowe
“I don’t think it would be that difficult to bribe some low level clerk in Kenya.”

True, and the left has lots of money (e.g. Soros etc.). If a clerk in Kenya can be bribed, they probably already have been.

721 posted on 08/03/2009 7:08:45 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: TheThinker
I did google E.F. Lavender detergent. I found Earth Friendly detergent but the Lavender part wasn’t really part of the product label. It was simply lavender scented.

So then it is the E F Lavender Soap that is fraudulent not the name of the registrar. Who looks foolish now???

722 posted on 08/03/2009 7:08:45 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: PureSolace
Jamuhuri (Republic) Day - December 12, 1963: December 12th 1963 (Jamuhuri or Republic Day), Kenya attained independent dominion status within the British Commonwealth under a constitution that was negotiated and agreed at three multi-party Constitutional Conferences held in London and Nairobi between 1961 and 1963.
723 posted on 08/03/2009 7:11:23 AM PDT by spycatcher
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To: Perdogg
I think people should be skeptical.

Indeed.

FWIW, I have scoured these pages trying to find some concrete evidence that this is a fake. Every time someone comes up with some fakery theory, I've done some research and found that the document still holds up.

If this is a fake, it is a really good one. The only way to tell, however, is to find another BC issued about the same time in the same province, or find the book and page number, or find that no such book or page number existed.

724 posted on 08/03/2009 7:12:27 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: txroadkill

That’s hilarious!!


725 posted on 08/03/2009 7:15:21 AM PDT by StarCMC (Sometimes you need a Jimmy Carter to get a Ronald Reagan.)
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To: P-Marlowe
If this is a fake, it is a really good one. The only way to tell, however, is to find another BC issued about the same time in the same province, or find the book and page number, or find that no such book or page number existed.
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http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105764
“WND was able to obtain other birth certificates from Kenya for purposes of comparison, and the form of the documents appear to be identical.”

We'll see how well WND did their research. People on Media Matters and Daily Kos are all a twitter because of the ‘Republic of Kenya’ thing - but the Wash Post story from then about Kenya - says it was the newest ‘republic of the British empire’ in 12/1964 - this doesn't tell us how they perceived themselves, nor how their documentation may have read.

Still skeptical, but intrigued.

Of course the other weirdness, is the number, but numbers can be made to mean weird things coincidentally (just as Farrakhan, or any numerologist), and that in and of itself is just a circumstantial deal.

726 posted on 08/03/2009 7:18:00 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: SeattleBruce

Please notice that I was posting a comment from the website Jim linked to- you apparently assumed I supported the comment, when in reality- I popped it up for informational purposes.

As to my thoughts and beliefs about this president- I consider him to be the single most significant danger to our nation than any we’ve encountered. But you wouldn’t know that- because you jumped the gun and decided to interrogate me.


727 posted on 08/03/2009 7:21:54 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Uncle Chip

-—I did google E.F. Lavender detergent. I found Earth Friendly detergent but the Lavender part wasn’t really part of the product label. It was simply lavender scented.

***So then it is the E F Lavender Soap that is fraudulent not the name of the registrar. Who looks foolish now???
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Furthermore, someone found EF Lavender was a clerk in other capacities in Kenya.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306755/posts?page=23#23

It is also interesting, that while WND mentioned the fake BC last week, they haven’t immediately retracted this as fake...as others have said, if it’s a fake, it’s a pretty good fake.

Also, don’t forget the main thing.

Bammy is the ONE that has put us on this chase...

Why won’t he spend $15 to release his BC?

Why would anyone in his position do that? And of course ALL of his other records:

includes his kindergarten records, his Punahou school records, his Occidental College records, his Columbia University records, his Columbia thesis, his Harvard Law School records, his Harvard Law Review articles, his scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, his passport, his medical records, his files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records.


728 posted on 08/03/2009 7:24:17 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: romans828

the 44-O-47 coincidence is a bit suspicious.
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It’s actually 47044, and will it quit being a coincidence on Tue.? So the shelf life of that ‘coincidence’ ends up being 3 days? What’s most curious is that only Orly Taitz knows (or perhaps a few others) who she got this from and how possibly reputable they may be.

Has anyone done a typewriter font analysis - was that font available in Feb. 1964?


729 posted on 08/03/2009 7:29:56 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: callisto

What better distraction from fighting Obama and Congress on the principles?
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I’m still fighting everything! Go TEA PARTIERS...get out to your town halls...

IF THEY HAVE THEM??!! The morons!!


730 posted on 08/03/2009 7:31:22 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: SE Mom

So sorry SE Mom. I missed your first line and didn’t see any quotes...

My apologies..


731 posted on 08/03/2009 7:33:51 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Good post pieceofthepuzzle.

For the record, I do not think that BO is a legitimate POTUS, nor do I think Orly is a competent lawyer. I do think Berg, Apuzzo & Donofrio are legitimate.

Furthermore, I support Patriots forming Citizen Grand Juries to clean up corruption in Washington. Here’s how to do it:

12 Simple Steps to Clean up Corruption in Washington:

1) Advertise and Promote the Fact that you are forming a Grand Jury in Blogs, Local Newspapers and Community Organizations.
2) Form the Grand Jury and select a Foreman.
3) Select a Private Attorney General to make Presentments to Grand Jury, if local DA refuses to make presentments.
4) Select a convenient Meeting Place.
5) Communicate with all Citizens who have criminal information to present.
6) Schedule presentments by said Citizens.
7) Subpoena documents from Government Offices and Officials.
8) Schedule presentment of said Documents to Grand Jury by Grand Jury Attorney General.
9. Have Grand Jury Attorney General present said Documents to Grand Jury.
10) After investigation and deliberation is completed, vote and issue a True Bill (Indictment) or No True Bill.
11 Announce all Indictments to the Press.
12) Serve the Indictment on the Judiciary for the Issuance of Arrest Warrants.

Here are a couple of Articles that make discuss the legitimacy of Citizen Grand Juries:

http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/07/our-privilege-our-right-our-duty.html

http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/03/somethings-coming-something-big-obamas.html


732 posted on 08/03/2009 7:35:28 AM PDT by L_Patriot
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To: Marie

I may have jumped the gun on the date, i have been up all night. anyway, sorry you got slammed
melissa


733 posted on 08/03/2009 7:36:11 AM PDT by mel
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To: SE Mom

People like SE sit there and insult us when he is lying thru his teeth.

THE REPUBLIC OF KENYA WAS ESTABLISHED IN DEC OF 1963, NOT 1964 AS YOU INDICATED. (SEE WIKIPEDIA).

YOU GOT CAUGHT LYING RED HANDED ! OBAMA GETS IMPEACHED JUST LIKE HE SHOULD BE. MORON ! NICE TRY


734 posted on 08/03/2009 7:37:25 AM PDT by theguyfromtampa
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To: Perdogg

No, you’re being emotional. One can tell by your stubborn refusal to use anything approaching logic. How can it be stamped prior to this? Easy, a stamp is made and it’s stamped on the page. If you can’t think of a way that this could EVER happen, maybe you’re not qualified to be commenting on this issue.

It could appear quite easily. We don’t know what they were putting on internal documents in the interim 10 months between the independence and formal declaration of a Republic.

It’s close to definite that they would NOT want to use documents from prior to their independence. They would have wanted to be rid of any of the British colony stuff. But would they have wanted to go to the expense of printing new documents that they would only be using in the 10 months before declaring as a republic, when they KNEW that the change was coming? Letterhead wasn’t printed on a deskjet in the other room back then. It had to be designed by a designer and printed by a printer. That was a costly undertaking.

Frankly, the whole ‘Republic’ thing is childish. Could it be a clue that the document might not be real? Possibly. But I think it’s more likely to be correct, since a forger who went to the trouble that this one did would have been unlikely to screw up such a simple thing to research. There are also logical and plausible reasons that they might have been using that letterhead in the interim 10 months.

But hey, maybe the authenticator will find the document is phony and then you can proudly say that you were right to jump to conclusions instead of withholding judgment until the facts came in.

Of course, all this is just wasted keystrokes talking to a guy who was one of the heads of the Romney slime machine anyway. So, carry on repeating your emotional responses.


735 posted on 08/03/2009 7:37:45 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: L_Patriot

“Citizen Grand Juries”

I like it!


736 posted on 08/03/2009 7:39:33 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: SeattleBruce
"What’s most curious is that only Orly Taitz knows (or perhaps a few others) who she got this from and how possibly reputable they may be."

Yes, the provenance of the document will likely be the primary consideration given by a court.
737 posted on 08/03/2009 7:40:43 AM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: P-Marlowe

You’re right. This document has withstood every attack against it.

The only thing that will prove things one way or the other is to look at other documents from the same place at the same time.


738 posted on 08/03/2009 7:40:59 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: Red Steel

H.S. = E.F.


739 posted on 08/03/2009 7:43:57 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

I never supported Romney.


740 posted on 08/03/2009 7:44:54 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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