Posted on 08/02/2009 12:58:22 PM PDT by BP2
My first take is that the dates DO match up for 1964 events surrounding the Obama's 1964 divorce.
Here we go:
Ann filed for Divorce Jan. 20, 1964 (Inauguration Day – what are the odds?), and the date was set by the presiding judge for the trial to commence 30 days after Obama SR would have responded to his notification, sent to Cambridge, Mass (Cambridge – what are the odds? ).
Judge Samuel P. King who granted the divorce – last I heard was retired and alive (for now) in his 90s in Hawaii -- MAY or MAY NOT have asked to see the Marriage Certificate. BUT, I bet Judge King asked to see Obama JR's Birth Certificate to confirm Ann's claims that Obama SR was in fact the father. That is “standard” policy to have a Birth Certificate in case the mother asks for child support from the father (or Welfare) later after the divorce. Judge King probably told Ann to produce a birth certificate before or at trial, which would have been sometime in mid- to late-February 1964 HAD Obama SR answered his notice that was sent to Cambridge.
When Judge King wrote the order on Jan. 23, he had his clerk notify Obama SR via what's referred to as a "knock and nail". That is, the postman leaves the notification on the door for (generally) 10 days and retrieves it after that time passes -- signed or unsigned. That order was sent on Jan. 23 via airmail from Hawaii and was probably posted on Obama SR's door Jan. 27-28.
Obama SR's notification was unsigned by him and apparently IGNORED -- either he didn't want to accept it OR he was NOT at that location.
However, Judge King granted the divorce to Ann Obama (which changed back to Ann Dunham) exactly 60 days from when the original order was request by Ann by default.
NOW, my guess is that Judge King asked to see Obama JR’s Birth Certificate before he'd be willing to grant the divorce, either at trial or by default on March 20, 1964. Ann probably didn’t have the birth certificate when she filed on Jan 20. That's when this birth certificate would have been generated -- before trial for the 1964 divorce.
Important side note: the Certificate issue date of Feb 17, 1964, is JUST A FEW SHORT MONTHS AFTER KENYA BECAME INDEPENDENT on Dec. 12, 1963. TO THIS DATE, this may be the only certificate on Kenyan file today if British documents were sent to the UK for archiving leading up Kenya becoming an independent nation.
If you note the date on the Certified Copy, it was created by the Registrar in Kenya on Feb. 17, 1964. The Kenyan Birth Certificate would have been issued in the midst of the divorce -- AFTER the divorce was filed by Ann in Hawaii on Jan. 20, but BEFORE the divorce was granted by Judge King on March 20.
Furthermore, it's quite plausible that once Ann actually had this Kenyan birth certificate in her hands, and the divorce was granted on March 20, her attorney, George Kerr, counseled her on Hawaiian birth certificate "loopholes" and told her how to file for a Hawaiian "Certificate of Delayed Birth" to get Welfare or OTHER support for young Obama as a child of a non-supporting foreign national.
As Hawaiian law allows, that CODB could have been "converted" later to a “Certificate of Live Birth” (long birth certificate) in the 60s or 70s, which would then be a "root document" of the famed “Certification of Live Birth” (short birth certificate on "Fight the Smears") we see today presented as "proof" of birth of Barack Hussein Obama II, reportedly in Hawaii (note: the abstract “Certification of Live Birth” certificate did not exist in Hawaii until November 2001).
I can’t personally vouch for the veracity of the Kenyan birth certificate itself, not knowing how or from whom Orly obtained the birth certificate (the chain of evidence). It may have been obtained quite surreptitiously from the only filed Kenyan birth certificate record copy requested -- likely generated from the 1964 divorce.
It's QUITE possible that all other copies of this Kenyan birth certificate may have been scrubbed from Kenyan archives, but this one may have survived in a lone Vital Statistics office somewhere in Kenya not known about until now.
Quick fix, find another comprable document from the same batch.
His BC probably states “Daddy unknown” or Daddy is Uncle Frank.
Again, spot on BP2.
Thanks for the timeline. ProtecttheBillofRights caught this early this morning.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?page=1215#1215
January 20, 1964 Motion for Divorce Dunham / Obama
February 17, 1964 is date of Kenyan COLB
Perhaps it was needed for the divorce action?
(Only thinking out loud...no judgement made)
1,215 posted on Sunday, August 02, 2009 9:37:29 AM by Protect the Bill of Rights
Supposedly WND has Birth certificates from the time frame this was issued and it looks legit!
I’m thinking he was born a hermaphrodite.
That is something I never thought of. He was born a Marxist but a dual gendered dude?
excellent work.
Well done — the dates do line up.
Just did some checking. According to www.worldstateman.com Kenya officially became a Republic December 13 1964, one year to the day after Independence. That would call into quesion this document from ten months earlier.
Yup, I agree It’s probably a setup.Lucy pulling the ball on Charlie Brown in the last second.
Making President Sham Wow look like a victim as usual.
The divorce documents numbered from one to twelve...there’s your answer to why we only saw seven. The remaining five were ID documents and one was the BC for zero!
Where can we find another document from this time to compare? If bogus, then it will be easy to prove.
I posted the divorce timeline observations BC makes here several hundred messages before BP2 did on the main thread.
Just bragging!
I got it in message 197 and especially 1977, his is 2222.
Much better presentation in your article though with the pretty pictures, good post!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?page=197#197
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?page=1977#1977
excellent excellent work
I see Stanley Ann didn’t ask for child support in her petition.
Then to consider that she would have needed a BC to get lil barry on welfare it makes sense.
The thing I consider is tho’ there are so many powerful evil people behind barry there isn’t much they wouldn’t do or haven’t done ( do we really think person cooperating in barry’s passport records investigation was coincedentally shot?)so why wouldn’t they have already scrubbed everything?
Kenya’s 1963 Constitution names it the Republic of Kenya:
http://www.constitutionnet.org/en/vl/constitution-republic-kenya-1963-amended-2008
This is the version amended through 2008. Any amendments/changes from the 1963 Constitution are noted and dated. Therefore, the Republic of Kenya designation is apparently original from 1963 not 1964.
It is true that Kenya gained its independence from Great Britain and ceased being a Dominion on December 12, 1963 -- Kenyan Independence Day.
However, the Republic of Kenya dates from a year later, December 12, 1964, when Jomo Kenyatta was sworn in as President of the Republic.
It is conceivable that officialdom might have been using forms labelled "Republic of Kenya" in February, 1964. But just as conceivable that such a term would not have been in use at the time.
Everyone involved in continuing to bring this out better watch their backs. The Arkancide incidents may become very minor compared to the potential here.
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