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Cash for Clunkers Gov. Website gives government ownership of your computer (really)
Glen Beck Show | 7/31/09

Posted on 07/31/2009 2:16:49 PM PDT by pabianice

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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

I am sorry...but a privately owned dealership should not have to subject themselves to this disclaimer either.

The government put out/up the credit for a dang clunker of a car. A bleepin’, flippin’, run into the ground CAR.

Access to the rest of the dealership information is unreasonable. I am tired of everyone saying that if you deal with the government expect to be ...XXXX.

It is ALL simply wrong.


141 posted on 07/31/2009 4:03:52 PM PDT by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: loungitude
" Unauthorized or improper use of this system may result in administrative disciplinary action and civil and criminal penalties.
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I hope you were authorized to click ‘submit transaction’!"


Oh, cheer me up a little, why don't you. Actually, they don't make it clear what "authorized" is, and it's a public URL not requiring any login, so I'm not worried about that part. I made no attempt to log in, nor would I, and you'd be foolish to try. As to "improper," well I'm a conservative bitter clinger, so by definition every breath I take in 2009 is probably deemed improper.
142 posted on 07/31/2009 4:03:57 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (I love my country, but I fear it, for it does not love me.)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

That doesn’t make it ok.


143 posted on 07/31/2009 4:06:15 PM PDT by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
That is not a government website. That is a scam website. Calm down. And I hope somebody posts the alleged disclaimer text. All these wide-eyed hoo-hah and ohnoes are embarrassing.

No. See post 62 with the link to the video. This was cars.gov. The screen shots are in the video. By accepting "government cash" you sign a deal with the devil.
144 posted on 07/31/2009 4:24:58 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: EBH

I agree, but the panic (if you just go to this website...) was unwarrented. Like many EULA’s on software, I doubt that anything in the disclaimer would hold up in court for the reason that it is not something you are agreeing to.

But it is written poorly by someone who doesn’t understand protected Constitutional rights at all.


145 posted on 07/31/2009 4:25:34 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

Yup.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2305219/posts


146 posted on 07/31/2009 4:27:35 PM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: SouthTexas; glock rocks; Brad's Gramma

You are powned...


147 posted on 07/31/2009 4:28:06 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
I swallowed hard and clicked the "I Agree" button to that

You better not have Obama's COLB on your computer.
148 posted on 07/31/2009 4:34:22 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

I can’t watch this video due to a computer problem with my media, but it looks like the one I saw from way they are dressed, it’s from U Tube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWs12ccbOiE


149 posted on 07/31/2009 4:34:52 PM PDT by Kackikat
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I could only find one "sign in" type link on the DEALER section of the "Cars.gov" site and here is the "ULA" that pops up: ---------------------------------------------------------
"This notice is provided pursuant to the Privacy Act of 1974, 5 USC § 552a: This information is solicited under the authority of Public Law 111-32, 123 Stat. 1859. Furnishing the information is voluntary, but failure to provide all or part of the information may result in disapproval of your request for a credit on this purchase or lease transaction under the Cars Program. The principal purposes for collecting the information are to determine if purchase or lease transactions are eligible for credits under the CARS Program, to ensure proper disposal of trade-in vehicles, to prevent, identify and penalize fraud in connection with the Program, and to update an existing government database of Vehicle Identification Numbers. If you complete the optional survey, the survey information will be used to report to Congress on the Program. Other routine uses are published in the Federal Register at 65 F.R. 19476 (April 11, 2000), available at: www.dot.gov/privacy.

Ensuring transaction security is a crucial requirement of NHTSA-CARS clients. Using industry-standard security techniques ensures that your personal and financial information remains confidential. NHTSA-CARS uses security technologies that include your personal customer number and password, government standard encryption, and hardened perimeter protections such as firewalls and intrusion detection systems. The combination of your customer number and password enables you to be uniquely identified to NHTSA-CARS transaction processing. It is your responsibility to keep your password secure. Compromising your password by sharing it with others can have negative consequences for the integrity of your transactions. You will also need to use a secure browser. Certain browsers have the ability to communicate securely by encrypting the information as it passes across the Internet. This method of communication is called Secure Socket Layer (SSL). NHTSA requires the use of a properly configured browser as a condition for connecting to NHTSA-CARS using SSL. Therefore, SSL must be enabled on your browser to establish a connection with NHTSA-CARS. Additionally, be aware that your transaction passes through multiple security mechanisms, any one of which can halt the transaction if suspicious activity coming from your computer is detected. To avoid this from happening, please keep your anti-virus software on your computer current. Your Internet Browser - How to Ensure That Your Session is Secure Once you've downloaded and installed your browser, here's how you can check for yourself that your Online Banking session is secure. As you browse through the resources available on the Internet, you'll notice that your browser's status bar changes with the Web page you have loaded. You should see a padlock graphic, either locked or unlocked, like this: Secure UnSecure Microsoft Internet Explorer N/A Mozilla Firefox"


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http://www.cars.gov/index.php/dealersupport

and

https://supplierpayments.esc.gov/OA_HTML/jsp/pos/suppreg/SupplierRegister.jsp

150 posted on 07/31/2009 4:47:54 PM PDT by Drago
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To: tubebender; glock rocks; Brad's Gramma

Looks like I’m back to getting the old truck running.


151 posted on 07/31/2009 4:51:28 PM PDT by SouthTexas
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To: pabianice

Thanks.

I was too mad when I saw this to do a proper post.

Here is the text of what Glen showed.

“This application provides access to the DoT CARS system. When logged on to the CARS system, your computer is considered a Federal computer system and is the property of the U.S. Government.

Any or all uses of this system and all files on this system may be intercepted, monitored, recorded, copied, audited, inspected, and disclosed...

to authorized CARS, DoT, and law enforcement personnel, as well as authorized officials of other agencies, both domestic and foreign.”


152 posted on 07/31/2009 5:01:30 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: pabianice
New WORLD government health care records, too? E-government:

Developing a one-stop government data model for Europe

153 posted on 07/31/2009 5:10:52 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Brilliant
Now Obama is nationalizing your computer.

Digital Angel, the implanted computer chip, sure could make sharing health care records and the worlds wealth a lot easier.

Coming soon to a Government Health Care Center near you.

154 posted on 07/31/2009 5:13:45 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: pabianice

Most likely for dealers only.

Most smart dealers would buy a cheap PC soley for the purpose of submitting these applications and nothing else (just like the local repair shops and their DMV inspection pc’s). The govt. is looking for the scam artist dealers who will no doubtedly try to play the system by using info stored on their computers to generate bogus applications for payment.


155 posted on 07/31/2009 5:31:51 PM PDT by Master of Orion
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To: mware

linky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWs12ccbOiE


156 posted on 07/31/2009 5:35:14 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Right at the very beginning of the video of Beck, listen closely, he clearly says log onto the “dealer”

Those of us who missed the live show or repeat and had only the Utube to go by didn’t get the entire report.


157 posted on 07/31/2009 5:37:53 PM PDT by Brytani (DC Freeper Convention and National Tea Party - FreepMail Me for rooms and convention info!)
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To: Master of Orion
The govt. is looking for the scam artist dealers who will no doubtedly try to play the system by using info stored on their computers to generate bogus applications for payment.

So why give access to these computers to FORIGN governments?
How much access to they have to other U.S. programs already?

158 posted on 07/31/2009 5:48:26 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Drago

See 132 for how to get to the dealer login with the wording that sent Beck into the stratosphere.

I hope that when he posts on his own website, he includes way more info than was in the video. Post 132 gives all the steps and results.


159 posted on 07/31/2009 6:15:39 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (I love my country, but I fear it, for it does not love me.)
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To: concerned about politics

Well, I suppose if an investigation leads to a computer based outside the U.S., they would need the cooperation of the host country.


160 posted on 07/31/2009 6:17:25 PM PDT by Master of Orion
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