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Dear Freepers, Don't Back a Losing Argument: Just Accept the Fact Obama was born in Hawaii (Vanity)
Self ^ | July 30, 2009 | Edward Watson

Posted on 07/30/2009 8:35:25 PM PDT by Edward Watson

The entire birther argument, that Obama was actually born in Kenya instead of the US, making him ineligible for holding the office of the President of the US, is a spurious argument. It plays into Obama and the liberals hands - they want this to continue since it makes regular conservatives and opponents into fringe wackos.

Not one of us would've looked harder at his legitimacy than Hilary Clinton and the entire Clinton smear machine during the Democratic primaries. That magic bullet would've given Hilary the presidency - and yet nada, bupkis.

There are many valid reasons to oppose Obama and the liberals, but his birthplace isn't one of them.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; chat; kenya; kenyan; muslim; obamabirthplace; sinclaireclair; trollmagnet; vanity
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To: Electric Graffiti

My COLB got me a passport, and thru a security clearance.

Have a good night, this has been funny. Its good to see that the birthers are the same old “crazy aunt’s in the basement”, too bad they can’t see that they are being exploited.


362 posted on 07/30/2009 11:01:17 PM PDT by neoprene
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To: Electric Graffiti

My COLB got me a passport, and thru a security clearance.

Have a good night, this has been funny. Its good to see that the birthers are the same old “crazy aunt’s in the basement”, too bad they can’t see that they are being exploited.


363 posted on 07/30/2009 11:01:24 PM PDT by neoprene
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To: bvw

Never been sued thank God. But I’ve had some kin get involved. And I know that the bills rack up pretty fast.

So I dont quite get how :
“Obama has spent $1 million on legal fees so that proves he’s guilty as sin” is such a brilliant ‘proof’ of anything,
when we all know:
“Palin has spent $1 million on legal fees as Gov because the bogus evil Democrats are out to get her and are throwing junk accusations her way”.

hmmm, maybe they are both in the same boat legally-speaking, trapped into feeding the lawyer-billable-hour meters. If you think Obama releasing his birth cert will shut down the lawsuits I have a bridge to sell ya.

Honestly, I think most of the ‘birthers’ know the out-of-Africa stuff is a crock of s*** and just like the idea of Obama having to swat those nuisance lawsuit flies. Just for payback for the cr*p they have put conservatives through - Delay, Bush, newt, Palin - all attacked over bogus leftist twaddle.

So Obama is forced to defend against junk like Berg’s lawsuit. Which he apparently can and will do, only now the taxpayer is footing the bill. He will only release info that helps him.


364 posted on 07/30/2009 11:01:38 PM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: neoprene

Thanks for standing in tonight as the poster boy for those who treat our Constitution like toilet paper, and blithely destroy our country with an arrogant sneer on their faces.


365 posted on 07/30/2009 11:02:54 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Just say NO to national socialism!)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Roger.


366 posted on 07/30/2009 11:03:59 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Just say NO to national socialism!)
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To: Edward Watson
I believe in standing for truth and righteousness regardless of the prevailing opinion of the masses. I don’t mind being the lone voice in the wilderness. At least I embody true conservative principles of decency and honor and can merely plead to others who claim to hold to the same ideals of conservatism to act likewise.

Dittos. I was unafraid to be a conservative in a family of liberals, in a state full of libs (Mass.) and will be unafraid to call birther-ism madness even if FR is full of birthers. Get over it guys: Obama was born in Hawaii.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/27/AR2009072703114.html

“I ... have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen,” Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino

367 posted on 07/30/2009 11:04:00 PM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: saquin

If it was in person I would have veen a lot nastier!

I don’t have to and never back up anything and if you or anyone don’t like it you can go to hell.

Looking at your page and seeing that you are from a human sewer if I had it in gold plate I wouldn’t furnish it to you!


368 posted on 07/30/2009 11:04:39 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: EternalVigilance

Yawn.

Proof? You have none.

Enjoy the fringe. And leave the hyperbole to experts, not Keyes Kooks.


369 posted on 07/30/2009 11:05:15 PM PDT by neoprene
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To: dalereed
I don’t have to and never back up anything

I know. :-)

370 posted on 07/30/2009 11:05:19 PM PDT by saquin
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To: EternalVigilance

Bill Buckley “attacked conservatives” back in the day, and built the conservative movement we have had for the last four decades.

The poster you insulted is not defending Obama. He is questioning the wisdom of your strategy.


371 posted on 07/30/2009 11:06:07 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: neoprene

You’re smart wearing neoprene kneepads.....You should give a few pointers to saquin. Go easy on the gerbil tonight.


372 posted on 07/30/2009 11:06:14 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: neoprene; EternalVigilance
“Good job, you helped ruin the nation.”

How so? What is wrong with Obama’s election in your eyes, neoprene?

373 posted on 07/30/2009 11:07:37 PM PDT by Semper Mark (Third World trickle up poverty, will lead to cascading Third World tyranny.)
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To: saquin

“So his being born in one of the 50 states to an American mother is not enough for you?”
________________________

Both parents must be citizens for you to be a natural born citizen


374 posted on 07/30/2009 11:07:53 PM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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To: joejm65

“The Dems had a conspiracy theorist named Michael Moore making movies about the evil GWB. The Dems trumpeted the ‘Bush and Cheney started wars to seize oil and make themselves and Haliburton rich’ nonsense for years. The left makes it’s living off of parroting conspiracy theories about conservatives. How did any of that hurt them Dems in ‘08?”

Since when did the same rules apply to Dems and Republicans?


375 posted on 07/30/2009 11:08:09 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: presently no screen name

All rules were thrown out the window for Hilary’s Democratic Nomination run. That was her time, what she had been building her entire life towards. Her hubby even alienated the African-American constituency, he got so pissed at what was happening. It was supposed to be her coronation and then this unknown, inexperienced usurper came along. If she had ANYTHING, I think she would have screamed it from the rooftops to get him out of her way. Why play it safe? Most people think she will be too old to run in 2016.


376 posted on 07/30/2009 11:09:17 PM PDT by HelenaGrace
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To: dennisw
Both parents must be citizens for you to be a natural born citizen

Source?

377 posted on 07/30/2009 11:09:17 PM PDT by saquin
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To: WOSG

How about his college and passport records?

Even if he was born in Hawaii, (an assertion for which hard copy proof is not in evidence) it is clear that he was treated in Indonesia as a citizen of that country as a child.

Legally, the United States would not take that into account.

Unless, he laid claim to that foreign citizenship as an adult.

This is not as simple to dispense with as you blithely try to make it out to be.


378 posted on 07/30/2009 11:09:28 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Just say NO to national socialism!)
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To: saquin

I think that was Al Gore who was the C student.


379 posted on 07/30/2009 11:10:36 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Hildy

Maybe, maybe not.


380 posted on 07/30/2009 11:10:51 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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