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The socialist universal health care bills proposed in the House and Senate are unconstitutional. No where in Article I Section 8 is the power to regulate health care listed. Let you Congress critters know! Toll free capital switchboard numbers are below.

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1 posted on 07/30/2009 3:34:16 AM PDT by Man50D
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death camps


2 posted on 07/30/2009 3:38:07 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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PG 59: The federal government accesses your bank accounts for mandatory funds transfers.
PG 65, Sec 164: Creates special, federally-subsidized coverage for Unions and “Community Organizing” groups.
PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Dictates the benefits packages of all private health insurance plans.
PG 85, Line 7: Limits what private insurers can offer (rationed care).
PG 91, Lines 4-7: Mandates that health care providers pay for interpreters for illegal immigrants.
Pg 95, Lines 8-18: The mandatory use of ACORN and Americorps for signing up Americans to government insurance.
PG 85, Line 7: Imposes more limits on coverage (rationing).
PG 102, Lines 12-18: Mandates Medicare for all who fit criteria (removes all choice).
PG 124, Lines 24-25: Bans companies from suing the federal government, bans the entire judicial system from hearing any cases on the legitimacy of this blatantly unconstitutional socialist health care takeover (no judicial review allowed whatsoever).
PG 127, Lines 1-16: Instructs doctors/AMA on what salaries they are allowed to make.
PG 145, Line 15-17: Requires all employers to enroll all new employees in the government system (no choice whatsoever).
PG 126, Lines 22-25: Requires employers to independently provide insurance for part-time workers, whether they can afford it or not (no choice).
PG 149, Lines 16-24: Imposes an 8% payroll tax penalty for any employer (making over $400k) who fails to force his employees onto government insurance.
PG 150, Lines 9-13: Employers making between $251k and $400k pay 2-6% penalty.
PG 167, Lines 18-23: Imposes 2.5% income tax penalty on any privately-insured individual who fails to get “adequate” private insurance.
PG 170, Lines 1-3: Stipulates that all non-resident aliens pay nothing (we foot the bill).
PG 195: Federal officers will have full access to every citizen’s most private records.

3 posted on 07/30/2009 3:38:33 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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Sounds good. Send Granny off to be exterminated as a drag on the collective. It is for the good of the Hive. Yikes these liberals are reminding me of the BORG in Star Trek. “We will assimilate”. Time for escape plans.


4 posted on 07/30/2009 3:39:36 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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These people are scumbags. They are creating the equivalent of Nazi death camps. The American Holocaust is expanding from mass murder of our innocent unborn to the mass murder of the elderly and handicapped.


5 posted on 07/30/2009 3:42:32 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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“Evidence-based medicine may provide transitory savings in the short term, but the same patient who takes the cheapest available statin today may very well be the patient costing you -- the taxpayer, the policymaker, the thought-leader, the sister, the spouse -- big bucks when that patient ends up in the hospital because of improperly treated cardiovascular disease,”

No, they're not going to cost the taxpayer, because they'll have to do their duty to the State to die.

6 posted on 07/30/2009 3:44:13 AM PDT by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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[. . .EBM now is being distorted by government bureaucrats and HMOs in ways that impose top-down, one-size-fits-all restrictions on patients and their healthcare providers.”]

This provides the perfect setting to conduct experiments in treating patients with healthcare robots.

7 posted on 07/30/2009 3:46:22 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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Modern concentration camps..

Complete with Dr Mengler


10 posted on 07/30/2009 3:49:19 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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"Welcome to your new home, senior Americans, REST will set you FREE!"
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14 posted on 07/30/2009 3:58:04 AM PDT by mkjessup (0bama is ineligible to serve based on Article II Section 1 of the Constitution. End of Story.)
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Not only unconstitutional IMO, but also more proof of the imbalance in the mentality of those proposing, and supporting such Government collective activities. It’s right back to the restricted perspective that for every have there is a have not, because somebody else, or something has taken away by the act of possession from somebody else.

IOW “the Rich” are evil because they possess that which belongs to the poor. They (”the rich”) took away the sum of whatever from the limited pool, therefore others cannot partake of that which is their right to have as well. It’s not fair sayeth the collectivist whom cannot see beyond the zero-sum.

This collectivist health-care crap is based upon that same bullscoot mentality that is the retarded Leftist zero-sum perspective.

Liberalism is a mental disorder. No kidding.


25 posted on 07/30/2009 4:26:16 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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So I guess this means that the elderly and the disabled have no rights to see a real doctor.

How could this be Constitutional?

We have to stop this nightmare.


26 posted on 07/30/2009 4:27:13 AM PDT by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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“Such a medical home would not require a physician to be on the staff, and therefore could be run solely by nurse practitioners and physician assistants.”

I imagine the staff to patient ratio will be abysmal. Speaking as a nurse who also reads at allnurses.com, I know that the long term care homes are already tragic, and this will not make it better.

It’s also disgusting how nurses have been hypnotized by SEIU plants among them. HYPNOTIZED

Pray for our country.


27 posted on 07/30/2009 4:28:46 AM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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Such a medical home would not require a physician to be on the staff, and therefore could be run solely by nurse practitioners and physician assistants.


29 posted on 07/30/2009 4:31:40 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Big government more or less guarantees rule by creeps and misfits.)
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Where in the 1000 plus page bill is this? Exactly what is the language?

I don't doubt that this could be in there, I'd just like to read it myself.

30 posted on 07/30/2009 4:32:45 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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Such a medical home would not require a physician to be on the staff, and therefore could be run solely by nurse practitioners and physician assistants.

But you can bet it will require an "affiliation" with a physician so that there's someone to sue.

31 posted on 07/30/2009 4:34:00 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I hope Sarah will start a 2nd party soon)
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“There is no typical patient,” Serkes told CNSNews.com. “Every patient is different from a medical perspective. If we have evidence-based medicine that basically says ‘well, we start at treatment one, which leads you to treatment two, to treatment three to treatment four. In practice, that doesn’t work for the patient. That’s the ‘art’ part of the art and science of medicine. That’s what we still need doctors to do, is to figure out what’s right for the patient.”

Heaven help us. Reality is, you will be allowed one doctor, who may misdiagnose you, or not diagnose you at all. The doctors won’t have time to properly care for the patients. All power given to the system and one doctor whose duty is cut costs. There will be no “art” and NO APPEALS.


32 posted on 07/30/2009 4:43:37 AM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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My spouse is a top-ranking hospital administrator. He just received correspondence yesterday that under the anti-christ’s socialist plan, NO ONE can be admitted into a hospital unless or until that person (or guardian) has signed a “directive” for end of life decisions.

I guess that “directive” will put the decision of whether you live or die in the anti-christ’s hands.


34 posted on 07/30/2009 4:45:12 AM PDT by Reagan69 (No Representation without Taxation)
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I belong to a group who monitors nursing homes and assisted living facilities.

Right now, with the legislation we have, there are abuses, medical malpractice, and a severe shortage of CNAs in these places leading to all sorts of patient abuse.

This pending legislation is an open door to elder abuse and abuse of the disabled.

I’m making some phone calls to the director of my outfit and she will be burning up the phones to other organizations who also monitor care.

This needs to be stopped dead.


35 posted on 07/30/2009 4:45:23 AM PDT by OpusatFR (Those embryos are little humans in progress. Using them for profit is slavery.)
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I especially like the National Health Service Corps, Training of Medical Residents in Community Based Settings, Scholarships for Disadvantaged Students, Educational Assistance in the Health Professions Regarding Individuals from Disadvantaged Backgrounds, Nursing Workforce Diversity Grants, Diversity and Cultural Competency Programs, Cultural and Linguistic Competency Training - all funded by us with preferences given to underrepresented and disadvantaged groups. See Sec. 2201 - National Health Service Corps.

So, stick old people in community homes (probably not Park Avenue, though) and pay activists to train our future healthcare workers there. What a deal!


36 posted on 07/30/2009 4:46:13 AM PDT by oldmomster
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37 posted on 07/30/2009 4:47:28 AM PDT by paulycy (Liberal DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE crimes.)
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Waitaminute....Is this idea from the same folks who decided in the late 50’s, that institutionalizing the mentally disabled was inhumane, encouraged the release of people who were incapable of taking care of themselves, who then became the newly named homeless?

Sigh. Liberalism - Saying/Doing whatever suits your purposes on any given day...

*DISCLAIMER - Yes, fully aware here, that some institutions were run in such a way as to be detrimental for their patients,(much like some nursing homes today), and that many of the mentally handicapped can, and do thrive outside of an institutional setting. Just commenting on the tendency of the Left to enact broad sweeping changes that usually result in bigger and better problems, not to mention the throwing out of said baby with the bathwater ; }


38 posted on 07/30/2009 4:48:08 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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