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And so it begins - this is also a major tenet in the national health insurance bill = the slide into "Solent Green"... Condition society to a mind-set that the elderly are a drag on society and should go quietly into the night... of course, the makers of these rules/bills are exempt - they will retain their best of the best health coverage, paid for by you and me.
1 posted on 07/28/2009 3:55:38 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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ObamaCare has already been started apparently


2 posted on 07/28/2009 3:56:50 PM PDT by GeronL (Guilty of the crime of deviationism.)
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git em while they are young and pliant


3 posted on 07/28/2009 3:57:04 PM PDT by Flavius
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I don’t want it. They’ll put it in little kids so their immune systems can suffer, just like with other shots. Who really knows what’s in them? If they can make more retarded children or sick children, there will be less of them to rise up against them later on. Yes, I DO believe that.


4 posted on 07/28/2009 3:58:23 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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So, all you survivors of the greatest generation, Korean Police Action, and the Vietnam era...look at this America that you spent your lives defending, working for, and trusting in


5 posted on 07/28/2009 3:58:31 PM PDT by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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To tell you the truth, I don't want my grandchildren anywhere near a goddam government developed/promoted vaccine.

When I came back in 76 after 8 years overseas, the 'swine' flu was also a big thing....like a dumbass I went down and got a shot...if screwed me up for years, never felt right....

I don't trust the government, CDC or local health officials anymore and I damn sure ain't gonna gamble with my grandchildren....

6 posted on 07/28/2009 3:58:46 PM PDT by Gaffer
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How bout we just save it for people who actually want the vaccination? The young can have mine.


7 posted on 07/28/2009 3:59:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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Comprehensive Obamacare for the hoi polloi elderly:

1) Throw under bus

2) Place on Obamacare Iceberg, shove iceberg out to sea.

3) Congratulate Obama on his wisdom and empathy.

8 posted on 07/28/2009 4:00:23 PM PDT by La Lydia ( Enoch Powell was right.)
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eugenics.


10 posted on 07/28/2009 4:01:19 PM PDT by ken21 (i am not voting for a rino-progressive.)
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The pandemic of 1918 killed the young and healthy in greater numbers than older persons. The reason was that the immune response of the young was stronger and flooded the lungs with fluid. This might be part of the reason, but I’m not suggesting we take it at face value.


11 posted on 07/28/2009 4:01:49 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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All those elderly people who voted for “change” aren’t going to like this.


12 posted on 07/28/2009 4:04:34 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.aroodawakening.tv)
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Make sure your vitamin D levels are high enough to boost your immune system. This is one theory as to why the flu strikes in fall/winter not summer. I take 2000 i.u.s a day to maintain normal blood levels.

Also, Tamiflu’s key ingredient is the Chinese herb, Star Anise. It is skyrocketing in price due to heavy demand. It may be prudent to have some on hand just in case.


17 posted on 07/28/2009 4:18:19 PM PDT by mpstan
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Don’t jump to conclusions. Flus like this cause a cytokine storm which is more deadly in younger people, those with healthy immune systems, which as the article link below states can be a liability, not an asset.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytokine_storm


18 posted on 07/28/2009 4:19:57 PM PDT by dawn53
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If you look at who has died from H1N1, it has been young adults with healthy immune systems.

The kids and old people who got it, did relatively well.

This virus apparently kills when the immune system goes into overdrive.

If your immune system is weak, it makes you sick but does not kill.


28 posted on 07/28/2009 4:55:50 PM PDT by staytrue
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The World Health Organization has issued a dire warning to health care officials, warning of the very real possibility that Swine Flu could mutate with the HIV virus into an air-borne version of AIDS.

Anne Schuchat, a scientist with the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, has seperately confirmed to Bloomberg News that Swine flu’s potential to reconfigure its genetic material and become more deadly is a “major concern” to those monitoring the virus outbreak.

Once infected with Swine Flu, the H1N1 virus “re-associates” with the genetics of other viruses in the same person. In the case of HIV, one possibility is the H1N1 virus could take-on the immune system killing effects of HIV and still retain its ability to be spread by air.

The WHO report notes how HIV has already mutated with tuberculosis in South Africa to make the disease more easily spreadable and harder to manage.

The H1N1 virus is noted for its unique mutation of genetic material from swine, human, and bird flues, a first of its kind ever seen by scientists and medical researchers.

HIV+ patients are especially susceptible to the Swine Flu because their immune systems are already compromised by the HIV virus, and need antivirals the most.

http://www.therightperspective.org/2009/05/03/swine-flu-makes-air-borne-aids/

Neverdem - you might want to look into this - might be why the MSM is making such a big deal out of this flu...

33 posted on 07/28/2009 7:11:55 PM PDT by GOPJ (Obama's policies..have been the opposite of his rhetoric, with race as with other issues.-Sowell)
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So they want to kill off the kids first?

Typical death culture idea.

Send the vaccine to Iran where it can do something worth while. (and save Israel the trouble)


36 posted on 07/28/2009 7:33:41 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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There is a bit of logic in this. Older folks (like me) have been exposed and lived thru lot's of flues, we have built up a little resistance. Younger folks and children have not. That said, give it to who ever wants it (I don't) and can afford it.
40 posted on 07/28/2009 10:00:08 PM PDT by jpsb
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Ping... (Thanks, neverdem!)


42 posted on 07/28/2009 11:25:21 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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"Antiviral drug treatment of swine flu may be wasted on the elderly and should be reserved for young people, suggest researchers who created a model of the effect of antiviral treatment on the spread of the H1N1 virus."

This is what happens when you remove God from the picture and rely on *reason* to get you through. No moral base.

How much longer before the actively start killing the old?

Oh, wait a minute......

43 posted on 07/29/2009 5:09:43 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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For the record here is an important thread.....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1929828/posts


46 posted on 07/29/2009 5:21:32 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . fasl el-khitab)
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thanks neverdem.

“Antiviral drug treatment of swine flu may be wasted on the elderly and should be reserved for young people, suggest researchers who created a model of the effect of antiviral treatment on the spread of the H1N1 virus.”

Healthcare Policy, Social Justice and Thugs
The American Thinker | July 23, 2009 | John Dale Dunn MD JD
Posted on 07/23/2009 2:46:26 AM PDT by Scanian
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Bigger Is Healthier — The problem with U.S. health care is its cost, not its size.
City Journal | 22 July 2009 | David Gratzer
Posted on 07/27/2009 7:14:58 PM PDT by neverdem
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2302456/posts


47 posted on 07/29/2009 5:39:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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