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State declares Obama birth certificate real, again
Wash Post ^ | 7/27/09 | staff

Posted on 07/27/2009 7:03:39 PM PDT by pissant

HONOLULU -- State officials again are confirming that President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Monday she has seen the original birth records that verify Obama was born in Hawaii, and is a "natural-born American citizen."

Fukino made the announcement in hopes of ending any lingering rumors about Obama's citizenship. She issued a similar press release Oct. 31.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: barrysoetoro; birthcertificate; certifigate; larrysinclairslover; obama; obamatruthfile; obroma
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To: Presley OBannon

So could the President’s parents have convinced the Hawaii newspapers to retroactively print an announcement of birth from 1961?

Or was that all planned out, you know, just in case he ran for POTUS?


341 posted on 07/28/2009 7:14:30 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: pissant; LucyT; null and void; mojitojoe; Polarik
Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Monday she has seen the original birth records that verify Obama was born in Hawaii, and is a "natural-born American citizen."

What if we assume for a minute that she is telling the truth and that she understands the Constitutional meaning of "Natural Born Citizen"

Maybe she is trying to tell us that Obummer SR. is NOT the daddy without really saying so?

342 posted on 07/28/2009 7:15:24 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Move over NetZero - Obama's in the house!)
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To: pissant
Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Monday she has seen the original birth records that verify Obama was born in Hawaii, and is a "natural-born American citizen."

Case closed.

343 posted on 07/28/2009 7:17:19 AM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: Frantzie

“When people change the story multiple times and drag their feet plus obfuscate - you know they are LYING.”

The ‘birther’ story has changed multiple times. Do you condemn them for that?

Tell us again what credible story or theory makes this clear statement from a State of Hawaii official anything but true?


344 posted on 07/28/2009 7:19:12 AM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: WOSG

So you accept a medical doctors opinion that Obama is a natural born citizen over the state department and all its lawyers that the issue has not been decided yet? OK there goes your credibility.


345 posted on 07/28/2009 7:19:19 AM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: petertare
"I ... have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen," Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino

How do you go from that to born in Kenya?

346 posted on 07/28/2009 7:20:37 AM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: rolling_stone

Since when did the State Department and all its lawyers say “the issue is not resolved yet?”

PROOF


347 posted on 07/28/2009 7:21:17 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: RummyChick
That case seems to indicate that it is different if the unwed father is the US citizen than if the unwed mother is the US citizen. In Baraks case the unwed mother being a US citizen would be in his favor.

I have always wondered about his Indonesian citizenship after he was adopted by his step father. Indonesia does not permit dual citizenship so he would have had to renounce his citizenship. Would that cause issues?

348 posted on 07/28/2009 7:21:46 AM PDT by MtnClimber (Bernard Madoff's ponzi scheme looks remarkably similar to the way Social Security works)
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To: Frantzie

“How is it over? We have seen nothing. “

A COLB that has his birth record, a newspaper birth announcement from Honolulu paper in Aug 1961, and now a state official saying he was born in Hawaii:

“I ... have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen,” Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino

It’s only ‘nothing’ if you ignore all evidence.

“Somebody is hiding something.” - your common sense?


349 posted on 07/28/2009 7:23:04 AM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: Polarik

Has Hawaiian Health officials ever authenticated Obama’s Certificate of Live Birth as genuine?

ex animo
davidfarrar


350 posted on 07/28/2009 7:24:39 AM PDT by DavidFarrar
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To: MadIsh32
I want a BC signed in Kenya proving he was born there

We want a long form BC produced. Here's a good list!

Records Obeyme will not release.

1. Certified copy of original birth certificate
2. Columbia University transcripts
3. Columbia thesis paper
4. Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5. Harvard University transcripts
6. Illinois State Senate records
7. Illinois State Senate schedule
8. Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9. Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mothers
10. Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11. Occidental College Transcripts
12. Parent's marriage Certificate
13. Record of baptism
14. Selective Service registration records
15. Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16. Scholarly articles
17. Access to his grandmother (Obama's grandmother has since passed away from cancer [53])
18. List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists

351 posted on 07/28/2009 7:24:50 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: WOSG

It was closed in your mind in 2007 when Obama declared his candidacy. Tight kneepads can cloud vision.


352 posted on 07/28/2009 7:24:59 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: fr_freak

I’d like to see her EXACT quote.


“I ... have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen,” Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said in a brief statement. “I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”


353 posted on 07/28/2009 7:25:34 AM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: envisio

“He’s probably doing it just to piss you off and keep the “look at the loons on the other side” story going.”

Exactly. Him and the Israeli agent in the WH (Rahmbo) are laughing everyday about how much the right wing, and crazy Eileen are focused on this.

I keep stating that BHO wants to be a 1 termer, he is begging for it, but in 2012 we’ll drop the ball because our dunces will keep asking about the birth certificate


354 posted on 07/28/2009 7:25:46 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: LucyT

It was just Honolulu that had the power outage last Christmas, right? None of the other islands?


355 posted on 07/28/2009 7:27:46 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Legally she can’t disclose anything the BC says. Unless authorized.


356 posted on 07/28/2009 7:28:23 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: WOSG

How is it closed? She wasn’t even under oath. She could say anything she wants. It’s not even written down and sworn to. All we have at present is hearsay from one lousy reporter being repeated over and over again. If that is your proof, your case was closed long ago.

ex animo
davidfarrar


357 posted on 07/28/2009 7:28:58 AM PDT by DavidFarrar
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To: Polarik
Fukino Throws Another Log Onto The Fire

 USA Today reports, that in an attempt to quash persistent rumors that Obama was not born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961, Hawaii's health director reiterated this afternoon that she has personally seen Obama's birth certificate in the Health Department's archives.

"I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai'i State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen.  I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago...."

Now this is a subtle change from Fukino's previous statement.  In the original statement, Fukino says that she has personally seen the original birth certificate.  OK, lets' take her at her word. Hawaii has the original document.

Now, watch the language Fukino uses in her latest declaration -- "I...have seen the original vital records maintained on file..."

Those are two completely different statements.  In the first, she is describing a document -- a piece of paper.  In the second she is describing an electronic data set -- data stored on a disc.  Fukino is carefully parsing her words and clearly dissimulating, but why?

Now let's examine what USA Today is reporting: "Hawaii's health director reiterated this afternoon that she has personally seen Obama's birth certificate in the Health Department's archives."

That statement is false.  It is not what Fukino said.  Fukino did not say, "she has personally seen Obama's birth certificate in the Health Department's archives" -- and USA Today even put their made-up statement within quotes.

See how the game is played?  See how words are substituted to subtly change the meaning of Fukino's statement?  USA Today has hundreds of wordsmiths.  Why would USA Today change Fukino's statement -- and then put its fabricated statement within quotes? 

Why?  Because USA Today has joined CNN, MSNBC, and others as Obama agents and propagandists.  In the last couple of days, these "responsible" news organizations have all knowingly published comments that are provable lies in defense of Obama.  Why is everybody lying?  Why are these organizations putting their credibility on the line?

If Hawaii really does have a document that proves Obama is a "natural born" citizen, then Obama should have no problem in releasing his vault-copy birth certificate today.  That simple act will end all this nonsense.

I'll bet you a buck he doesn't.

There is no doubt in my military mind that this is a coordinated media campaign.  The question is, who's behind it -- beside Obama?


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358 posted on 07/28/2009 7:33:06 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: MtnClimber

Yes, the case is about an unwed father. The reason I sent it to you is because the law is discussed in the case.

It was harder for a US Citizen father than a mother and thus the argument ....

But the case shows you that the law was ONE YEAR for unwed mother. So Obama is a US citizen if born in Kenya. He is a UK citizen if born in Kenya.

My argument is that he is a lawyer and knows the law. HE could not have been given UK citizen if born in the US because it was an illegal marriage. He was born illegitimate unless Ann got married in Kenya.

There was a lot of lying going on in that family.

As for Indonesia..that is a whole other ballgame and one that I have not researched. His history is a mess and one that SCOTUS will probably not touch.


359 posted on 07/28/2009 7:33:11 AM PDT by RummyChick
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