Posted on 07/17/2009 5:30:11 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
The Obama birth announcement placed in Honolulu paper
Interesting discussion from FR:
"Re: I listened to Michael Medved today. he said that they found Obamas birth announcement in an old Honolulu newspaper. This is the first I had heard of this. Any truth to it?
A little.
My understanding is that the "birth announcement" was on microfilm/fiche from the Honolulu public library microfilm of a notice placed in the Sunday Advertiser Aug. 13, 1961. The announcement in the "Births, Marriages, Death" section read: "Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4."
From another poster:
It means absolutely nothing. The births are reported to the paper from the Department of Health. Once a BC is registered the info is sent to the DOH. The DOH in turn releases the info to the newspapers ( that can be seen on one of the newspapers at the top. It says Statistics from Department of Health )
In 1961, a relative could have registered the birth while he ws still out of the country. That can be seen on line 18a of the 1963 BC that is available online . The 1961 followed the same format. Once registered, the info goes to DOH, which in turn sends it to the newspapers. Thus the announcement.
From another poster:
Why would anyone do that? The newspaper announcement is good enough for anyone not wearing the tinfoil hat.
From another:
Why are you saying Good Grief. That was the process back then ( and possibly the same now ). Births are reproted to the papers from the Department of Health, not the hospitals. The hospitals send their info to the Department of Health.
From another:
I am not saying there was no birth to report. Just no Local birth ( the announcement doesn’t say where he was born ). Once a birth is registered ( and it could be done by a relative ) that info is sent to the DOH. The DOH in turn releases the info to the papers. The name of the parents, the child and their address - all info from the registration.
From another:
Yup. I'd like to see anyone when asked to produce their BC for official identification purposes to pull out a newspaper clipping and see how far it gets them.
From another:
“Why would anyone do that? The newspaper announcement is good enough for anyone not wearing the tinfoil hat”
So that means it should be acceptable for Social Security, getting a passport , or any other official use... try it and let us know how it works.
From another:
“Why would anyone do that? The newspaper announcement is good enough for anyone not wearing the tinfoil hat”
are you kidding? To get the benefits of being an US citizen. His teenage mother wasnt stupid.
From another:
Old news. The announcement does not say where he was born, and it appeared in the paper when he was about one year old.
From another:
Remember Occam’s Razor.
From another:
It hs all the significance of an engagement announcement...a feel good filler.
From another:
“Why would anyone do that? The newspaper announcement is good enough for anyone not wearing the tinfoil hat”
We know now that anyone could file for a bc for their baby in 1961 by just giving an address and saying they lived in Hawaii for a year so it doesn't tell us much. the address not matching up is strange.
From another:
How does July 22, 2008 sound as the birth announcement discovery date. You see, the address listed on the birth announcement was never the Obama’s address, as they never lived together as man and wife.
The address listed is 6085 Kalanianaole Highway, and was the residenc of Orland Scott Lefforge, a Professor at UH at Manoa, Dept. of Speech. Later, he became an assistant to Sen. Daniel Inouye in 1967. After that he wrote a paper about “In service Training as an Instrument of Change” (1971). He was also an administrator in the UH Community College office, and a member of the Osher Institute. He died July 4, 2007 at the age of 91. His wife/companion Thelma Jones Lefforge Young died June 12, 2008.
Ten days from Lefforge’s death is plenty of time to cut, typeset, & paste a new birth announcement. From what I’ve read, the announcements were scanned and emailed by the librarian in Hawaii to a blogger named Lori and then to the TD [texasdarling.wordpress.com] blog.
Unfortunately, they should have put more time into researching a safer and more practical address. Whomever suggests that CIA is behind this has got to be joking. No one at the agency would have been so stupid as to have chosen an address that is easily traced to a family occuping the home. Nor would they have selected a property grossly beyond the means of the supposed occupants.
In 1961 the Dunhams lived on Kamehameha Avenue, while Obama Sr. lived on 11th Avenue. The Lefforge family, including their 3 children under the age of seven were residing at the luxury home listed on Obama’s newly found birth announcement — 6085 Kalanianaole Highway.
It is highly improbable that the Lefforges would move an African 25 year old male and his pregnant teenage girlfriend into their home. Why would anyone want unemployed college students and a newborn baby living in their family home with their own three young children?
And since the Mr. Lefforge died 10 days prior to the appearance of the birth announcement that listed his address, we can’t ask him. But we do know that the next door neighbors testify that Obama, his mama, and his ‘papa’ never lived there. What a tangled web of lies...
Not a shred of evidence links the Dunhams or Obamas to Kalanianaole Highway. Kalanianaole only surfaced in connection with the Obamas in July 2008. I don’t think a commemorative plaque on the old homestead will be nailed up anytime soon.
I wasn’t necessarily tying the date of the release of the Certificate with the June 12, 2008 date. I was trying to see how the sudden discovery of the birth announcement coincides with the death of the legitimate owner (witness) of the home that was alleged to be the first home of Obama.
So in other words, the recent death announcement of the 1961 resident triggers the announcement, since now it is presumed to be a “safe address” to utilize as home plate.
Mrs. Lefforge (not Mister) passed away June 12, 2008. Forty days later, her address was found to be used as the first home of Obama.
The Microfilm In Hawaii, WND was able to locate at the Honolulu public library microfilm of a notice placed in the Sunday Advertiser Aug. 13, 1961. The announcement in the “Births, Marriages, Death” section read: “Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4.”
Arakaki told Baro’s investigators she had no recollection of Obama being born or of the family living next door having a black child born to a white mother.
Baro sent a team of investigators to Honolulu to explore records regarding current residents of Kalanianaole Highway and to track down residents back to 1961.
Baro’s investigators were unable to locate any current or past resident of Kalanianaole Highway who could recall Obama or his family living at the address listed in the Sunday Advertiser announcement.
Baro also sent investigators to the newspaper offices to examine files, but the Advertiser could not confirm who actually placed the ad.
According to Baro’s affidavit, Beatrice Arakaki affirmed she was a neighbor of the address listed. She has lived at her current residence of 6075 Kalanianaole Highway from before 1961 to the present.
Moreover, Arakaki said she believed that when Obama lived with the Dunhams, his grandparents, the family address was in Waikiki, not on Kalanianaole Highway.
Baro was able to determine the previous owners of the residence at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway — the alleged address of Obama’s parents when he was born — were Orland S. and Thelma S. (Young) Lefforge, both of whom are deceased. ****
Just so you understand how deep the conspiracy runs on the cover-up of President Obama’s origins, his Hawaiian school file for kindergarten has gone missing! His is the only file from his class to have disappeared. In it would be his certified copy of his Birth Certificate, his real name, his birthplace, his vaccination record up to that date. There would be no embarrassing records as to his achievements or lack thereof - ‘cause few people have any at five years of age.
The only reason possible to hide this birthplace information is that he wasn’t born in the United States.
Unfortunately, they should have put more time into researching a safer and more practical address. Whomever suggests that CIA is behind this has got to be joking. No one at the agency would have been so stupid as to have chosen an address that is easily traced to a family occuping the home. Nor would they have selected a property grossly beyond the means of the supposed occupants. They would have safely chosen Bear-icks or the Dunham’s address. This birth announcement was done by someone wishing to uplift the early status of their beloved leader by selecting a pricy address and not doing their homework....”
“.... So in other words, the recent death announcement of the 1961 resident triggers the announcement, since now it is presumed to be a “safe address” to utilize as home plate.
Mrs. Lefforge (not Mister) passed away June 12, 2008. Forty days later, her address was found to be used as the first home of Obama....”
“...WND was able to locate at the Honolulu public library microfilm of a notice placed in the Sunday Advertiser Aug. 13, 1961. The announcement in the “Births, Marriages, Death” section read: “Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4.”
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So according to World Net Daily there IS a microfilm in the Honolulu library which has the newspaper birth listing! Now we’re getting somewhere! Unless the Conspiracy managed to obtain an unexposed roll of 1960’s microfilm stock (and in only a few days!), the library roll is either on new film stock, or the library roll is the original with the relevant frame cut out and a new one spliced in, which would be obvious by inspection. Get Beckwith or World Net Daily to the Honolulu library stat to look at that roll! The proof of the Conspiracy is within your grasp!
The Lafforges were both professors at the University of Hawaii, had three children (none of whom were half-white and named Barack Hussein Obama), and were very, very progressive-type liberal activists. The Obamas never lived together as man and wife, and they never lived with the Lafforges. These are the facts.
That birth announcement is a fake. So is the Certification of Live Birth (COLB) posted online that supposedly proves our President was born in Hawaii. Why do I say that?
Because so far he has spent over a $1Million with a Washington, D.C., law firm fighting to prevent disclosure of his Birth Certificate.
If the COLB was convincing then it would have been produced in court, but his lawyers haven’t done so because the COLB only exists in cyberspace. It is not a real document, just a forgery.
Barack Hussein Obama II [if that is his real name] wasn’t born in the United State.
ths newspaper notice then is a recent plant??
no , it looks like the LeFForges—left wing academics-—may have allowed Ann Dunham to use their address to list her foreign born baby...although Obamas never lived there.
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So according to World Net Daily there IS a microfilm in the Honolulu library which has the newspaper birth listing! Now we’re getting somewhere! Unless the Conspiracy managed to obtain an unexposed roll of 1960’s microfilm stock (and in only a few days!), the library roll is either on new film stock, or the library roll is the original with the relevant frame cut out and a new one spliced in, which would be obvious by inspection. Get Beckwith or World Net Daily to the Honolulu library stat to look at that roll! The proof of the Conspiracy is within your grasp!
The Lafforges were both professors at the University of Hawaii, had three children (none of whom were half-white and named Barack Hussein Obama), and were very, very progressive-type liberal activists. The Obamas never lived together as man and wife, and they never lived with the Lafforges. These are the facts.
That birth announcement is a fake. So is the Certification of Live Birth (COLB) posted online that supposedly proves our President was born in Hawaii. Why do I say that?
Because so far he has spent over a $1Million with a Washington, D.C., law firm fighting to prevent disclosure of his Birth Certificate.
If the COLB was convincing then it would have been produced in court, but his lawyers haven’t done so because the COLB only exists in cyberspace. It is not a real document, just a forgery.
Barack Hussein Obama II [if that is his real name] wasn’t born in the United States.
This is quite interesting...
"On April 10, 2008 Senator Claire McCaskill (D-MO) introduces Senate Resolution S. Res. 511 to “recognize that John Sidney McCain is a natural born citizen.” The resolution is allegedly meant to clarify that McCain is eligible to be President even though he was born in Panama. Because McCain’s parents were both Americans and he was born in Panama because his father was stationed there while in the military, existing law already covers McCain and he is eligible to be President. McCaskill’s resolution thus serves no purpose – except that language is included to try and provide a “blanket cover” for other foreign born candidates without military backgrounds, in order to enable Obama to be eligible to be President. This is the language that Obama inserted “Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President;” This Clause has no particular relevance to McCain [The language is inserted by Obama.][301,303] "
Coupled with...
"Obama's Senate efforts to airbrush his past were augmented by his top Intelligence Advisor in March 2008. Obama's Intelligence Adviser Involved in Security Breach. Obama’s top terrorism and intelligence adviser, John O. Brennan, heads a firm that was cited in March [2008] for breaching sensitive files in the State Department’s passport office, according to a State Department Inspector General’s report released this past July. The security breach, first reported by the Washington Times and later confirmed by State Department spokesman Sean McCormack, involved a contract employee of Brennan’s firm, The Analysis Corp., which has earned millions of dollars providing intelligence-related consulting services to federal agencies and private companies. During a State Department briefing on March 21, 2008, McCormack confirmed that the contractor had accessed the passport files of presidential candidates Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and John McCain, and that the inspector general had launched an investigation. Sources who tracked the investigation tell Newsmax that the main target of the breach was the Obama passport file, and that the contractor accessed the file in order to “cauterize” the records of potentially embarrassing information. In this video of Obama's reaction to the break in...he says twice that his reason for being concerned about the matter is not that he is concerned about what the records may reveal about himself...but rather etc..."
Someone should call or write Sen. Daniel Inouye and ask him why Obama was using his assistant’s address.
Someone should call or write Sen. Daniel Inouye and ask him why Obama was using his assistant’s address.
6085 Kanaianole Hwy:
Very nice digs by the Ocean!
Google map:
Smoking gun at post 43.
Well HOW ABOUT THAT! Baby barry NEVER lived at the address given on his birth announcement!
Hmmmmmmmmm.
Now HOW could that have happened?
And ONE HAS TO WONDER EXACTLY WHY HIS KINDERGARTEN ENTRANCE APPLICATION PAPERS HAVE GONE MISSING............Hmmmmmmmmmmm....WHEN NO ONE ELSE'S IN THE CLASS HAVE GONE MISSING.
What a fake, total fake, uhbama is.
Here’s a good data site for all the BC nuts:
http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/02/18/08-13-1962-obama-birth-announcement/
I don’t believe all this foreign-born ineligible stuff, but like a moth to the lamp, I just can’t stay away from it. I think he’s trying to cover up his real name, or his father’s name, and that explains his cover-up. (Imagine if, after concocting all this “background,” his real name was discovered to be “Barrymore Hubert Dunham”)
No,there are other possible explanations:
He had a different father
He had a different name
After concocting an exotic identity, which no one would challenge unless he became famous, he rose to Senator and then Presidential candidate, and had to cover up fictional aspects of his persona, because to let it out there would imply that he has serious honesty issues, and maybe a little mental illness.
Mental illness is a REAL possibility with Uhbama because the secrecy of his birth, the fact that he has spent over OVER 900,000 DOLLARS sending lawyers to various states to make certain records are closed INDICATES a PARANOIA about his history.
Something is amiss.
“...WND was able to locate at the Honolulu public library microfilm of a notice placed in the Sunday Advertiser Aug. 13, 1961. The announcement in the “Births, Marriages, Death” section read: “Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4.”
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Please, do not forget Obama’s white granny, Toot. She “volunteered” at the “library and Oahu Circuit Court in the 80’s...how convenient!!!!
“Over the years she’s worked for various charitable organizations. She did volunteer at the local library, as well as the Oahu Circuit Court, where she served as a court observer, probate aide and arbitrator for the Juvenile Monetary Restitution Program.” <——— Did Toot have access to Obama/Soetoro adoption records???
Also, is it possible that the address on his birth announcement is simply a fake address because they weren’t living in Hawaii a year earlier? Who knows when they really moved to Hawaii? They have lied about almost everything...it’s hard telling when they actually moved there.
Didn’t Stanley Ann start classes a month or two late? It’s likely in my opinion that the Dunham’s didn’t move to Hawaii until Sept or October of 60....if that is the case then Ann would not have lived there a full year before Barry’s birth. Therefore, it would have been “illegal” for Toot or anyone else to register Barry’s birth in Hawaii if he was born in Canada, Chicago or Kenya???
Say what???
Sunday Advertiser Aug. 13, 1961
0bama born August 4, 1961.
Moreover if you look at the entire page you see that the range of dates of other birth announcements were around the 4th; so his was not even any “later” than other birth announcements that went out in that days paper.
One of the main problems I have with the “birthers” is that they do not police themselves AT ALL as far as truthful content but just pass it all on as if it were Gospel.
I'm way ahead of you.
Although these days I'm leaning toward the 'birth gender listed as female or hermaphrodite' theory...
Unbelievable that you extract one comment out of a string of conversation and make your absurd “One of the main problems I have with the “birthers” is that they do not police themselves AT ALL as far as truthful content but just pass it all on as if it were Gospel.”
Are you kidding me?
We all know the nature of blogging, from every political perspective—there are all variety of shades—that’s why an intelligent person reads the entire thread, considers the concrete stuff and draws their conclusions—or continues researching.
What a joke of a comment you post here.
Don't you think that reprinting such an easily verified LIE casts a shadow across every other “birther” pronouncement?
Neither is this a side issue, it is the main issue under discussion thus the title of the thread.
The big zero's birth announcement was published in the paper NOT when he was one year old, but only a week or so old, just as his contemporary birth announcements on that page were around a week old.
What a joke of a blog.
Stanley Ann’s passport which would show her whereabouts on Aug 4, 1961 has of course disappeared also? Are there other ways of documenting her travel? British records for colonial Kenya?
Mark for later
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