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Posted on 07/06/2009 9:18:37 AM PDT by Righting
Ethnic riots spread in China's west; 140 killed... Police sealed off streets in parts of the provincial capital, Urumqi, after discord between ethnic Muslim Uighur people and China's Han majority erupted into violence. Witnesses reported a new, smaller protest Monday in a second city, Kashgar.
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Like the Tibetans, the Uighars didn't ask for the Chinese to come in with their money.
Conservatives cheering on China's trampling on the human rights of a minority is disappointing, to say the least.
They are protesting the fact that they are rapidly becoming a second-class minority in their own homeland. The Chinese government is using the same strategy here that they have used in Tibet- suppression of local language, culture and religion along with encouragement of Han Chinese immigration.
The fact that some on this thread are cheering on the ChiComs is disturbing.
Who are the Uighurs oppressing? Why are you holding the Uighurs responsible for the actions of others?
They are fighting for nations of their own states in Russia, Thailand, the Philippines, France they want self rule, UK they want Islamic law.....beginning to see a pattern here?
The difference here is that East Turkistan was independent until the Red Chinese rolled into the are in 1949. The Uighurs demanding independence is quite different from Thai Muslims demanding the formation of a new state.
In this case, they had a country until 1949, when the ChiComs decided to engage in a little imperialism. This area has never been part of China.
They have no right to form a country of their own, enjoy the protections of the Chinese government, yet be exempt from the laws and cultural norms.
They get no "protection" from the Chinsese government. The Chinese government is engaged in a process of trying to wipe out Uighur culture, language and religion.
It’s like these black militants who demand land within the US to form their own ‘black nation’ with the US government protecting them and possibly siphoning off taxmoney.
It's nothing like that. The US did not annex some hypothetical black muslim nation at gunpoint.
It they get their own state they will oppress non-Muslims in it. Just like Muslims do across the world.
Remember when you said they did not want their own Islamic state? I do and those links clearly proved you wrong, you know the ones you ignored.
That's the same argument that Russians used when the Baltic countries demanded independence- they were supposedly concerned about the Russian minorities in those countries, even though the only reason those minorities were there was because of forced colonization during the Soviet years.
Why are you so opposed to Uighar self-determination? This region has only been a part of China since 1949. Why shouldn't these people be free to run their own affairs?
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Don’t worry, he’s released a statement that he’s “concerned” about it. Whew, I’m feeling better now.
You mean this?
Lol, good post. The Blues Brothers too.
This has nothing to do with an Islamic states forming or with Muslims trying to form Islamic states across the world.
Blaming Islam for this is just ignorant.
Yup. They are 'mixed blood' descendents of the original Caucacian settlers of that region. They were there as much as 2,000 years before the ethnic (Han) Chinese showed up in around 100-200BC. There were still Caucasian only cemeteries still being used there as late as the 1300's.
This is an excellent book on the subject:
In 1994, a most astonishing discovery was made in Western China. Incredibly well-preserved mummies dating back 2000 years were unearthed in this remote region, mummies with large, colorful wardrobes, mummies that were distinctively Caucasian.
The mystery of what six-foot-tall, fair-haired people were doing in China at the time took Barber, an expert on ancient textiles at Occidental College in L.A., to the desert city of Urumchi in 1995, where archeologists at the site hoped that her expertise might help them understand what these unlikely people were doing there.
She had excellent material to work with: the mummies were in such remarkable condition that they still had full heads of hair and beards, and their skin was only slightly weathered. Most had been buried with plenty of brightly colored clothes to wear (one man was buried with 10 hats, each a different style), which gave Barber a treasure-trove of textiles with which to work.
Barber structures her tale as a mystery, revealing information piecemeal until she presents her conclusions about the origin of the mummies.
In the process, she treats readers to a lively story about the ebb and flow of ancient cultures, a story largely deduced from the development of weaving, dyeing, embroidery and fashion. Barber's hypothesis about how Caucasian mummies wound up in Urumchi, which has something to do with the Silk Road, is so clear and logical that readers will be satisfied that all relevant possibilities have been thoroughly examined.
Of course not. But that's a different issue from whether the Uighurs should get their country back.
You are way off.... China controlled it long before 1949 which means those people were born into China, they have no right to ask for their own state.
China claims that Taiwan belongs to them, too. If they conquer that country, are you going to claim that the Taiwanese have no right to ask for independence, either? How about Tibet?
It is not their country, that article showed that.
It is China, but I read that Muslims want Rome back also. So please get to work and help them out.
Right, that admit they want and Islamic state and use terrorism to get it. Just ignorant. /sarc
No, it didn't. The fact is, this area was almost exclusively Uighur until the Chinese decided to engage in aggresive colonization.
It is China
Like Taiwan and Tibet, it never has been part of China, except for very brief periods of Chinese expansionist imperialism. Or do you support Chinese claims there, too?
but I read that Muslims want Rome back also. So please get to work and help them out.
If you can't see how such a situation is different, I can't help you.
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