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(Muslims & violence) Ethnic riots spread in China's west; 140 killed
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Posted on 07/06/2009 9:18:37 AM PDT by Righting

Ethnic riots spread in China's west; 140 killed... Police sealed off streets in parts of the provincial capital, Urumqi, after discord between ethnic Muslim Uighur people and China's Han majority erupted into violence. Witnesses reported a new, smaller protest Monday in a second city, Kashgar.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chicoms; china; chinaesemuslims; commieviolence; godsgravesglyphs; islam; islamicviolence; muslims; tinanmensquare; uighurs
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To: Kampfschwimmer

I said Sharia loving Muslims. (For the 3rd time)

The Uigurs are part of the worldwide jihad as they want an Islamic state and use terrorism to try and obtain it.

You might want to also realize that militant Islam is just part of the problem, it is political Islam that is marching across the West. There is no way to sort out the “good” Muslims from the bad and they bottom line with their immigration is trouble. It is time for the West to end it.


101 posted on 07/06/2009 12:03:36 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: Islaminaction

>I said Sharia loving Muslims.
The Uigurs are part of the worldwide jihad<

no further comment...


102 posted on 07/06/2009 12:08:01 PM PDT by Kampfschwimmer
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To: Kampfschwimmer

Very telling.

Want an Islamic state and using terrorism to get their way.

Not too hard to figure out.


103 posted on 07/06/2009 12:09:42 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: ETL
Did you deliberately misread what I said?
REPEAT:
Wright was a Black Muslim before he became a black....whatever it is he calls himself now. Turned to fake Christianity and built his own church to propagandize Black Christians with Marxist Black Liberation Theology which is hand in glove with Calypso Louie’s agenda.
AND: A BORN muslim is always a muslim and obama is one of those who is permitted to pretend to be something else, (lie,) while remaining a true believer at heart. Taquiyya. As long as it advances islam in the world.
In other words, he is free to join a fake Christian Church which preaches anti-American hatred disguised as some bizarre form of Christianity which is actually anti-Christian, anti-Jew, nation of islam black liberation theology, which is what islam is all about in the first place. THEIR CHOICE.
To reiterate, obama is a BORN muslim with all that it entails...and since he couldn't really advance politically as a practicing muslim, he chose the next best thing. (Rather Michelle chose it for him.)
Wright's "church" had an air of legitimacy in Chicago. Why, even Oprah attended for awhile. If obama had not jumped onto the national stage, no one would have ever reported on Wright OR his church.
104 posted on 07/06/2009 12:10:08 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Zero+Zero=Zero, OR nothing from nothing is still nothing. OR 0+R E =0)
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To: flash2368
If China has any sense they will put as fast stop to the muslims by whatever means necessary.

They showed no hesitation in Tianamen when democracy was the issue, nor any mercy with Christianity, Tibetan Buddhism or Falun Gong. However, in today's world, they have a legitimate fear that if they come down too hard on this group, they may touch off a nuclear retaliation from the Middle East. It might be worth the gamble, however.

105 posted on 07/06/2009 12:20:58 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (If ten percent is good enough for Jesus, it ought to be good enough for Uncle Sam. --Ray Stevens)
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To: rogue yam
The Uighurs have lived in that area far longer than the Han. By what right should the Han "put a fast stop to" the Uighurs?

Therefore were they always muslim, which today is an extra-national political affiliation?

106 posted on 07/06/2009 12:23:01 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (If ten percent is good enough for Jesus, it ought to be good enough for Uncle Sam. --Ray Stevens)
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To: Islaminaction

Yeah and for you a muslim is a terrorist from birth on.

BTW: The 12 Uigurs in Gitmo were so dangerous, that they never been charged at a trial and are now free after 6 years in prison. But maybe they are now so pixxed for losing so much years that they will become jihadist? Actio -> Reactio


107 posted on 07/06/2009 12:28:11 PM PDT by Kampfschwimmer
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To: Kampfschwimmer

One more time, it is political Islam that is an even bigger threat. Bottom line with their immigration is trouble, that can be seen across the world. We you come up with magical plan to separate the “good” from the bad let the world know.....

Numerous Gitmo releases have returned to the battlefield,.
The Uigurs in Gitmo ADMITTED to attending Islamic terror camps. Yea, I am sure that they would not have any animosity towards America now.


108 posted on 07/06/2009 12:32:06 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: MestaMachine
Just because Obama was *born* a Muslim, or may "technically" even be one today, doesn't mean he believes in the religion. Obama is a commie "intellectual". Commie intellectuals don't believe in ANY religion, except Marxism. They view religion as stupid and ignorant.

And Wright's fake church is just as fake as Screwy Louie's "Nation of Islam". Liberation Theology, including James Cone's "Black Liberation Theology", concocts various phony religions to advance revolution and the communist agenda. Both are based in the Liberation Theology movement which began in the 60s in Latin America.

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The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine
Monday , May 5, 2008
FoxNews/Hannity's America
[special Friday night edition--original airdate May 2, 2008]

(some key excerpts)

["(Jose) Diaz-Balart is the son of Rafael Diaz-Balart y Guitierrez (a former Cuban politician). He has three bothers, Rafael Diaz-Balart (a banker), Mario Diaz-Balart (a US Congressman) and Lincoln Diaz-Balart (also a US Congressman). His aunt, Mirta Diaz-Balart, was Fidel Castro's first wife."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Diaz-Balart]

JOSE DIAZ-BALART, TELEMUNDO NETWORK: "Liberation theology in Nicaragua in the mid-1980's was a pro-Sandinista, pro-Marxist, anti-U.S., anti-Catholic Church movement. That's it. No ifs, ands, or buts. His church apparently supported, in the mid-'80s in Nicaragua, groups that supported the Sandinista dictatorships and that were opposed to the Contras whose reason for being was calling for elections. That's all I know. I was there.

I saw the churches in Nicaragua that he spoke of, and the churches were churches that talked about the need for violent revolution and I remember clearly one of the major churches in Managua where the Jesus Christ on the altar was not Jesus Christ, he was a Sandinista soldier, and the priests talked about the corruption of the West, talked about the need for revolution everywhere, and talked about 'the evil empire' which was the United States of America."

REV. BOB SCHENCK, NATIONAL CLERGY COUNCIL: "it's based in Marxism. At the core of his [Wright's] theology is really an anti-Christian understanding of God, and as part of a long history of individuals who actually advocate using violence in overthrowing those they perceive to be oppressing them, even acts of murder have been defended by followers of liberation theology. That's very, very dangerous."

SCHENCK: "I was actually the only person escorted to Dr. Wright. He asked to see me, and I simply welcomed him to Washington, and then I said Dr. Wright, I want to bring you a warning: your embrace of Marxist liberation theology. It is contrary to the Gospel, and you need, sir, to abandon it. And at that he dropped the handshake and made it clear that he was not in the mood to dialogue on that point."

Source: The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html
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Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02
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Catholics for Marx [Liberation Theology]
By Fr. Robert Sirico
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004

In the days when the Superpowers were locked in a Cold War, Latin America seethed with revolution, and millions lived behind an iron curtain, a group of theologians concocted a novel idea within the history of Christianity. They proposed to combine the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism.

The Gospels were re-rendered not as doctrine impacting on the human soul but rather as windows into the historical dialectic of class struggle. These "liberation theologians" saw every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to expropriate the expropriating owners of capital, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for an uprising by the proletarian class of peasants and workers.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=460782B7-35CC-4C9E-A2C5-93832067C7CD
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"Their founding document [the Weather Underground's] called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements[1] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."..."-Berger, Dan (2006). Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity. AK Press, 95.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_Underground#cite_ref-Berger_0-0

Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity (Paperback) by Dan Berger
http://www.amazon.com/Outlaws-America-Underground-Politics-Solidarity/dp/1904859410

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"God D*** America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11"
--Rev Dr. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor for twenty years

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"America’s chickens... are coming home... to ROOST!"
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From HumanEvents.com...
April 29, 2008

"Obama did not address the [Rev Wright] issue squarely until forced to justify his relationship with Wright, his pastor at Trinity United Church in Chicago, for over 20 years. In a speech several weeks ago, Obama denounced Wright’s comments but justified them by saying that America didn’t really know Wright. Obama’s connection to the pastor runs deep, as he titled his second book, “The Audacity of Hope,” after a sermon Wright gave. Wright also baptized Obama and his children as well as performing the marriage ceremony of Michelle and Barack Obama."

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=26261

109 posted on 07/06/2009 12:44:06 PM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Righting

Weren’t the Uighurs the Muslims our President Hussein released in the Bahamas?


110 posted on 07/06/2009 12:46:40 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm SO glad I no longer belong to the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Righting

Communists vs Islamicists. It’s like Iran vs Iraq all over again. May they both lose.


111 posted on 07/06/2009 12:47:41 PM PDT by xp38
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To: ETL

You are operating under the mistaken belief that islam is a RELIGION. It isn’t. It is a politic using “religion” exactly the way BLT does. To control its population and maintain power in a closed hierarchy.


112 posted on 07/06/2009 12:52:43 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Zero+Zero=Zero, OR nothing from nothing is still nothing. OR 0+R E =0)
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To: Islaminaction
“They are just Islamic separatists. Should Muslims be given their own states where ever they ask for it?”

Of course not, but these 156 (and growing) deaths seem to be related more to protesting ethnic discrimination rather than demanding Islamic statism...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/5758810/China-riots-questions-answered.html

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“The protest had a specific motivation - to call for an inquiry into the deaths of two Uighur toy factory workers who were killed in a riot Southern China last month. Graphic videos on the internet appear to show a Uighur woman being beaten to death by Han Chinese workers.

However, beyond this particular grievance, the Uighur population has grown increasingly resentful of Chinese rule which they say discriminates against them. The provinces rich mineral resources have mostly been exploited by Han Chinese, drawing millions of them to the region. Han Chinese accounted for just six per cent of Xinjiang’s population in 1949 but now make up more than 40 per cent of the total population. The result is resentment and tension on similar lines to that seen Tibet.

Does Xinjiang want independence from China?

Communist Party officials claim there is a serious threat from Uighur nationalists. In the wake of the September 11 attacks, China pushed Washington to classify two little-known separatist groups, the East Turkestan Islamic Movement and the East Turkestan Liberation Organisation, as terrorist organisations. Several Uighurs were locked up at Guantanamo Bay and have only recently been released without charge.

Last year, a spate of bombings and attacks against the police ahead of the Olympics were blamed on the two groups, which were said to have been training fighters in Pakistani camps.

However there remains scant evidence of a serious separatist movement and activists have accused China of drumming up propaganda to justify a strict security presence in the region.”

113 posted on 07/06/2009 12:54:43 PM PDT by Gabrial (Obama Lied - The Republic Died)
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To: Kampfschwimmer

The uighurs are ungrateful, the Chinese bring in a lot of money, compare their 2 worlds..
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40695000/jpg/_40695015_shanghai_ap.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Gurvger.jpg/180px-Gurvger.jpg

Also, you hit a new low, you compare militant christians to jihadists... I didn’t know there was a christian taliban/alqaida/binLaden with something like sharia laws. Plz feel free to clue me in! If this was the 80s, you would have cheered for “those poor muslims vs the soviets” I guess 9/11 wasn’t a wake up call for you? Does a nuke have to go off first or something? The commies could be held of by deterrence, it was a cold war and remained that way. But with the muslims, there is no such thing as a cold war, they want it hot, and on 9/11 it grew very hot in new york.


114 posted on 07/06/2009 12:55:42 PM PDT by Summerdrake
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To: rogue yam

>>The Uighurs have lived in that area far longer than the Han. By what right should the Han “put a fast stop to” the Uighurs?<<<

Let me clue you in, the Han Chinese settled in that province before the Uighurs (nomads) moved in. But it’s typical for muslims to overlook who settled first n always call themselves as the original people. Many other people were there before them.

Myself, I find it irrelevant who settled first, just saying what’s factual. Both groups are citizens, why can uighurs go to prosperous shanghai but han chinese can’t go to Xinjiang? What’s next, people from Chicago don’t have the right to settle in Florida? It is the same country, uighurs shouldn’t have special rights, I hate things like that.


115 posted on 07/06/2009 12:57:26 PM PDT by Summerdrake
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To: Islaminaction

It isn’t in the middle of China, it is on the northwestern chinese border in a primarily muslim turkic region and has always been such. All people have the right to sovereignty and self determination. While it shouldn’t be our business to get involved. We shouldn’t be deriding a group of people for trying to break away from the Chinese communist hive. From what I can tell, the majority are nationalists and want to be left alone, they have no bad intent to the western world. As long as they stay in that region and don’t come to the west or attack us I have no problem with them


116 posted on 07/06/2009 1:06:48 PM PDT by RebelYell1990
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To: Gabrial

The problem with the Uigurs over there was going on long before this. Last year they blew up buses and killed security officers. Muslims play the I am oppressed victim card across the world. People need to stop listening to them.


117 posted on 07/06/2009 1:08:19 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: RebelYell1990

It is still China and no we should not be supporting Islamofacsists of any kind. If they get their Islamic state it just emboldens Muslim across the world who want the same.

The are admitted Islamic separatists. Right, they have no bad intent towards the West....it is all just a coincidence that the goal of all the other Islamic terrorists is an Islamic world.


118 posted on 07/06/2009 1:12:01 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: RebelYell1990

Hey I want my own state here, and Joe wants his own and Linda her own and on and on and on...

They have blown up buses and killed security forces there. Sound familiar?


119 posted on 07/06/2009 1:15:42 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: Zhang Fei
Thanks for posting the nice picture.

Here's a bit of history for our hateful ignorant friends.


120 posted on 07/06/2009 1:21:01 PM PDT by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, Justice)
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