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Sarah Palin For President
Macleans ^ | July 2, 2009 | John Parisella

Posted on 07/02/2009 9:30:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Sounds far-fetched and, to some, totally implausible. But the Republicans are losing potential candidates at a pace that is downright alarming if you believe in a healthy two-party system. The demise of John Ensign’s political career a few weeks ago and the surreal downfall of Mark Sanford last week is enough to send chills through the even the most optimistic Republican strategist. We know that of the 2008 crop, only Mitt Romney seems likely to stay on as a contender. The old stalwarts like Newt Gingrich may get a lot of press, but it is unlikely they can mount a real challenge to Obama in 2012. Yet, the presidential election of 2012 will be more than a simple coronation of Barack Obama if the economy stalls and there is no progress in two important areas: national security and healthcare.

Ballooning deficits and a sluggish economy could alter the mood of America by the time the 2010 mid-terms come up, giving hope to the GOP for the next presidential primary season. This is why Sarah Palin is maintaining a persistent media presence, whether it is debating David Letterman or being the biggest Republican draw on the lecture circuit. She clearly has her eyes set on the presidency.

The latest edition of Vanity Fair brings this possibility forward, though not in a favourable light. Journalist Todd Purdhom paints a picture of a woman with a narcissistic personality, who’s short on knowledge, disinterested in policy discussion, and not ready for primetime. In the end, the story says more about John McCain’s competence and character than it does about Palin, simply because he flubbed his most important decision as a presidential candidate. That said, Palin brought much needed energy to an otherwise lackluster campaign and, to this day, she energizes the base as no other candidate can. Could it be possible she may someday be a candidate for the presidency?

My experience tells me that no one should be written off in a hypothetical context. Barack Obama is proof positive of this. I still maintain that, without Bush, there is no Obama nomination. Palin is a street smart politician who has benefited from being underestimated most of her career. McCain’s disastrous choice may have been fatal to his electoral chances, but it brought Palin to the forefront of national attention. Since then, she has become a celebrity that transcends her party. However, if she is to be taken seriously and considered a viable contender, she needs to change the negative perceptions of her and develop a political profile that appeals to those outside her narrow base.

To do this, she must gradually reduce her exposure and begin to educate herself on the issues. She will not be ready for 2012 by remaining governor of Alaska and playing the celebrity. The GOP has too proud a tradition to have a re-run of the 2008 vice-presidential candidate. Also, the base Palin relies on for support no longer holds the sway it once did. Social conservatism is losing steam as a political movement thanks to the dubious habits of people like Gingrich, Ensign and Sanford, and the election of an African-American president as well as the increased attention paid to gay rights issues shows that Americans have begun to cast their old divisions aside. The future for the GOP lies with fiscal conservatism and strong national security policy—not with turning back the clock. Palin must embrace the values that created the Republican party in the first place—a belief in the individual, a belief in a limited role for the state, and a commitment to equality. The party of Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Eisenhower, and (the pragmatic version of) Reagan is the path to a Republican resurgence. Palin is nowhere on that radar. She is all about celebrity status and controversy.

In the lead-up to July 4, Americans usually reflect on their great democracy. Overall, it is healthy and has shown resilience through the decades. But the Republicans have to become a viable alternative for this democracy to remain vibrant. So is Palin a real possibility for 2012 or 2016? Will she someday be a formal candidate for the presidency? Most definitely. But can she ever win? Based on what we have observed so far, I would say definitely not, though politics has been known to produce some strange developments.


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To: Windflier

Read it again.

She states that she does not support TOTAL amnesty. Thompson said he did not support BLANKET amnesty.

When asked if she supports a path to citizenship, she says “I DO.”

Any path to citizenship for illegal aliens IS amnesty. It’s the same position McCain, Thompson and the rest of the OBL Rhinos have stated, almost word for word, including the whole ...we can deport them all...statement.

As for your “Obama operative” accusation, get a grip. When I opposed McCain for the same reason, I was accused of being a Clinton operative. Time for a new excuse.


221 posted on 07/02/2009 11:31:34 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (PALIN - Supports a "path to citizenship" for ILLEGAL ALIENS)
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To: deannadurbin

You can always join Obama’s reelection campaign.
Or maybe you already have


222 posted on 07/02/2009 11:31:53 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: goldwaterepublican

You trying to sell McCain as a conservative tells almost everyone at freerepublic that you are not a conservative, there is a lot of disagreement on this thread but just about everyone here will tell you that you are nuts to call McCain a conservative.

Very few republicans are despised at FR as much as John McCain, the man has been at war against conservatives for many years.


223 posted on 07/02/2009 11:32:11 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: antceecee

If you’ve read all my posts on this thread you’ll see I have stated numerous times that I like Sarah personally, I just don’t think she can win against Obama. Two different things. I have no love lost for the MSM, in fact I detest them. But you have to admit their power, especially on people who don’t examine the issues but who go on simple newsbites they see on CNN or elsewhere.

You’d also see that I suggested John Thune would be a great candidate.

http://thune.senate.gov/public/_images/thune-hires.jpg

He’s conservative, clean family life, attractive, articulate, etc.


224 posted on 07/02/2009 11:32:31 PM PDT by deannadurbin
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To: counterpunch
Obviously not. This is a basic exercise in logic.

No, it's an exercise in rhetoric. You bash Palin and then offer a pre-emptive excuse for it. Sorry, that doesn't play.

Why would we be backing anyone for a race that has no declared candidates yet?

So you favor no one yet? Somehow, I don't believe that.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1961787/posts#5
225 posted on 07/02/2009 11:32:45 PM PDT by Antoninus (Queer is boring.)
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To: counterpunch; Arthur McGowan
These were all rematches, and considered so by the voters and historians.
And they all ended the same way: the two-time losers lost even bigger the second time around. McCain-Palin vs. 0bama —> Palin vs. 0bama wou


Yes they did.

But the obvious problem with your analogy is that none of them were conservatives.

And our country calls itself conservative by a 40% to 22% margin, so your analogy is fatally flawed.
226 posted on 07/02/2009 11:32:46 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: sickoflibs
Fighting with Letterman as a major theme is a loser

Uh she told you this personally ...that this was a major theme to her? Actually I don't think she knows that...maybe you'd better inform her what a major theme it was....seemed more to me like swatting a fly....

227 posted on 07/02/2009 11:33:46 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
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To: counterpunch

You really find facts get in your way.
Your mantra won’t help you.


228 posted on 07/02/2009 11:34:33 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: deannadurbin

Each and every quality you express RE: Thune can be said and verified for Palin. The only difference is gender. Do you have a problem with a woman Presidential Candidate?


229 posted on 07/02/2009 11:34:55 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Wow! McCain is a better Democrat than most Democrats! That compilation is about the worst indictment I’ve ever seen of any “Republican”. No wonder the Dems like him so much.

I didn’t like McCain well prior to him making his run in 2008, and actually pulled the lever for Sarah, not him.


230 posted on 07/02/2009 11:35:09 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: deannadurbin
I attended three McCain-Palin rallies. I waited in line for hours in the heat, being heckled and herassed by Barky supported Protesters, and I usually drove hundreds of miles to do so. I am also a broken glass Republican. I doubt people who didn't care or don't vote would endure such things.
232 posted on 07/02/2009 11:35:58 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: SoCalPol

You’re very silly. I detest Obama.

I believe Sarah has many gifts. But beating the Obama machine is not one of them.

I want a professional, conservative, fresh candidate starting with a clean fresh plate. No old newsbites being resurrected with Sarah blanking out during high profile interviews. It’s too damaging.


233 posted on 07/02/2009 11:36:30 PM PDT by deannadurbin
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To: SoCalPol

Some oldies but goodies about RINO Romney...

Romney the liberal running to the left of Kenneddy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9IJUkYUbvI&feature=related

Kennedy, Mitt’s best buddy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4r9dMP21hM&feature=related

Romney the abortion pusher, 2002

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_w9pquznG4

“Romney has fought conservatives for years”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elx3UWmyAY4&feature=related


234 posted on 07/02/2009 11:37:01 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Niteflyr

‘Projected theme’ meaning that is all she is commonly known for now. All she is seen as representing.

If you want to ask her something ask her if she is even running for president,


235 posted on 07/02/2009 11:37:02 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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To: deannadurbin; antceecee
If you’ve read all my posts on this thread you’ll see I have stated numerous times that I like Sarah personally, I just don’t think she can win against Obama. Two different things. I have no love lost for the MSM, in fact I detest them. But you have to admit their power, especially on people who don’t examine the issues but who go on simple newsbites they see on CNN or elsewhere. You’d also see that I suggested John Thune would be a great candidate.

Yes he is, and I am sure he has stumbled just as many times as Sarah has and anyother person with a public life.

Your position is flawed, the Press will attempt to kill his candidacy just as hard as it has tried to kill Sarah's.

That is an established historical fact.

Therefore, your dislike of Sarah as a candidate can't really be about her tarnished reputation in the press.

So what is this really about?
236 posted on 07/02/2009 11:37:06 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: presently no screen name
"How many articles does one need to read before one knows what our opponents are up to! They've been attacking her for 10 months, daily! Their propaganda - over and over - is working on some here at FR - the weak ones.

I totally agree with you. Either some people are naively allowing themselves to be manipulated by the media or they are the ones trying to do the manipulating.

It always seems to come up Romney or RINOs or the types who hate social conservatives. They know that if things stay the way they are now, Sarah Palin would win the Republican nomination by a landslide. It scares them to death.

I feel sorry that she has to suffer this from people, her fellow "conservatives," who should be helping her, not giving her all these backhanded compliments and slaps in the face.

237 posted on 07/02/2009 11:37:06 PM PDT by Waryone (If the democrats paid taxes like the rest of us, the United States wouldn't have a deficit.)
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To: deannadurbin
Your chart is about popularity, not about who could win against Obama.

Of course it is about who is popular among republicans and conservatives, the general election doesn't happen until the republicans choose their favorite.

238 posted on 07/02/2009 11:37:23 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: spikeytx86

I saw her in Orlando and had beautiful weather and there were lots of people.

But Florida still went for Obama.


239 posted on 07/02/2009 11:38:00 PM PDT by deannadurbin
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To: spikeytx86
Why waste all the breath and time on a bumbling idiot who would surely go down to defeat against zero?

Exactly! And notice how some here spend their time trashing Sarah. If we don't listen to the media - they think we'll listen to them and their 'opinion' because they are on a conservative site. They, too, are obsessed with Sarah!
240 posted on 07/02/2009 11:38:09 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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