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**Vanity** Rush beginning to question where Obama was born.
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| 6/30/09
| Hoosier-daddy
Posted on 06/30/2009 12:34:34 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy
Rush has questions where Obama was born, twice today. First was a joke: 'What does God and Obama have in common? Neither has a Birth Certificate'. The dam is breaking folks.
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; eligibility; frkiller; ineligible; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; rush; talkradio; toolittletoolate; usurper; whydonationsstop
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To: ladyjane
at 2:26 pm today. Rush brought up Obama's birthplace and added how no one knows where Obama was born as there has been no supporting evidence Obama was born in Hawaii. It was stuck in the middle of Rush talking about Mark Sandford and the two AP alerts about Sandford claiming his soulmate is in Argentina. I was wondering - where did that come from.....just popped in the middle of it.
Rush was trying to get us all to say: Did he just throw that in there? The answer is - yes he did.
To: Hoosier-Daddy
Insofar as bowing to anyone, thats just an ignorant statement. Then why isn't your opinion as good as Limbaugh's?
To: Windflier
The time to get this info out was BEFORE the election.
Now, apart from Rush fans and people who doubt the veracity of the birthcertificate already, I doubt it even makes a ripple.
I mean, even the GOP last year refused to touch the issue.
Don’t get me wrong, my view is there are enough discrepancies in his record to consider his US citizenship doubtful, to say the least, considering the laws of the that time.
But as far as some dethroning of Obama occurring, this won’t be why.
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posted on
06/30/2009 1:07:17 PM PDT
by
swarthyguy
("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
To: LucyT
Heard Rush say this today as well...thought...’Finally!’
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posted on
06/30/2009 1:08:18 PM PDT
by
FlashBack
('0'bama: "Katrina on a Global Level")
To: Hoosier-Daddy
Rush began by saying, again, that “God doesn’t want to be Obama” - how they are different. And then he said something about Obama not being a “native born” Hawaiian - which can be taken a couple of ways. Then went on to say a friend was telling him that Obama was born in “Taco, TX” - sounded like Taco, but all he could find was a Toco, TX which he said could be pronounced “Taco”. Then said, paraphrasing, but nobody knows where he was born - there’s no validation anywhere. Then mumbled something about the BC but sorta said “well, we won’t go there”. He knows how much his latest venture into the subject got him lots of stuff on the blogs, etc. Wonder if he’s aware of the “certified BC” for sale on eBAY!!
45
posted on
06/30/2009 1:09:36 PM PDT
by
Kandy
To: humblegunner
Nevertheless, Rush opened his bank account up to lawsuit for calling 0 a liar and forger regarding his place of birth.
Rush just put a whole lotta money where his mouth is.
Or is this lost on you? Do I need to break out the crayolas?
46
posted on
06/30/2009 1:09:36 PM PDT
by
txhurl
(Put the pressure on and keep it on until this administration snaps.)
To: ExTexasRedhead
My take is that he’s bringing attention to the issue with humor, not that he knows what’s what. It keeps the issue alive as a question that still exists out there.
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posted on
06/30/2009 1:09:46 PM PDT
by
Girlene
To: Think free or die
I just mentioned this to my husband. I listened to Rush on and off today but caught the comments about not being born in Hawaii. I shook my head and thought that it was odd that he’d made a few off hand comments about O’s birth today.
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posted on
06/30/2009 1:10:13 PM PDT
by
surrey
To: swarthyguy
The time to get this info out was BEFORE the election. Stop for a minute and consider that not even a sitting US President is immune from prosecution for committing a crime, if the facts are made public, and cannot be disproved.
So, Obama gets to resign, or be impeached for committing fraud against the American people NOW, instead of six months ago. Either way, he's out on his ear, which is a VERY GOOD THING for America.
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posted on
06/30/2009 1:11:17 PM PDT
by
Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
To: dandiegirl
"He then said that native Hawaiians all know about the look"He called it "stink eye" and I believe he said it could lead to fisticuffs if a white person gave it to an islander.
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posted on
06/30/2009 1:11:53 PM PDT
by
Think free or die
(The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money - M.Thatcher)
To: Hoosier-Daddy
Hmmmmmmm, I wonder
why.
Could it have been ... a US $900,200.00 bid ... ?
BORN IN THE USA?
eBay warns buyers off $1 mil 'Kenyan birth certificate'
Administrators tell those who contacted seller not to respond again
Posted: June 30, 2009
11:37 am EasternBy Drew Zahn
© 2009 WorldNetDaily
A notice from eBay administrators is now warning people who have contacted the seller of an allegedly genuine copy of Barack Obama's birth certificate -- from Mombasa, Kenya -- not to contact the seller again.
Furthermore, the sale page offering a dissertation on "the truth" about Obama's birth with bids reported by WND readers to have exceeded $1 million has been pulled from the auction website for the fifth time."
Screenshot of the seller's fifth attempt, with bids approaching $1,000,000, shortly before it was removed
As WND reported, the eBay seller, known to the public only as "colmado_naranja," alleged he obtained President Obama's birth certificate while traveling Africa. He explained that Kenyans boasted that Barack Obama II was born in the Coast Provincial Hospital in Mombasa at 7:24 p.m. on Aug. 4, 1961, which correlates with speculation that has existed over the president's birthplace since even prior to his election.
In each of the seller's first four attempts at auctioning the "evidence" of his claim, which would presumably render Obama ineligible to serve as president for violating the "natural born citizen" clause, colmado_naranja offered an alleged Kenyan birth certificate that "proved" his story.
The eBay website, however, has a policy forbidding the sale of certain government documents, which presumably led to the auction page being removed.
In the fifth and thus far most successful attempt at auctioning "the truth about Obama," the seller didn't mention the birth certificate, offering instead a "dissertation" on Obama's birthplace, and yet the auction page has disappeared again.
Now, eBay administration has sent a notice to those who have asked questions of colmado_naranja and received a response through the site's buyer-seller message system:
"Our records show that you recently received an email from colmado_naranja through the Ask Seller a Question or Contact eBay Member features. This email may be fraudulent," the eBay notice warns. "This kind of email is often called a 'phish' or 'phishing attempt,' and the people who send them are known as 'phishers.' Phishers use these methods to try to get your personal information, such as user names, passwords and credit card details. Because the emails may sometimes come through the eBay system, the phisher may seem to be trustworthy and have a good reason to contact you."
The notice then instructs, in multiple places, "Do not respond to the sender either through the eBay system or your email account."
While WND has made repeated contacts with colmado_naranja, the validity of his claims as well as the previously advertised "Kenyan birth certificate" remain a mystery. The seller has refused to allow the document to be seen or photographed.
In the original listing, colmado_naranja explained, "I am not posting any photos of the birth certificate here on eBay. I have not seen this birth certificate anywhere on the Internet, to post it here on eBay would lead to a flood of facsimiles on the Internet. This would inadvertently decrease the value of the certificate as well."
At least one investigator, who has traveled to Africa and sought the birth certificate from the Mombasa hospital, however, told WND he remains "skeptical" of the eBay auction's claims.
WND's senior staff writer, Jerome Corsi, traveled to Kenya last year too look into Obama's past and remaining ties to the nation.
While there, however, immigration authorities detained Corsi and his publicist holding them under armed guard and without food to prevent Corsi from holding a news conference revealing what he had discovered. Eventually, thousands of dollars in bribes were required to set the writer free.
Corsi told WND that despite contacts in government offices, the help of others and even the offer of financial reward, the Coast Provincial Hospital in Mombasa would not confirm Obama's birth there nor provide access to records.
"When I was there, I tried to get records from that hospital, but I couldn't do it," Corsi said. "The hospital either had no records or wouldn't release them.
"That's what makes me skeptical," Corsi continued. "How did [colmado_naranja] get the birth certificate, if it's real?"
Corsi wouldn't rule out the possibility that the eBay seller may have somehow obtained a genuine document, but stated only that his efforts in Kenya proved fruitless.
WND has continued to attempt to contact the seller through several channels.
Obama's eligibility questions
Obama's place of birth, however, is only one of several possible avenues for determining whether or not heis a "natural born citizen" under the U.S. Constitution and eligible to serve as president.
WND has reported on dozens of legal challenges to Obama's status as a "natural born citizen." The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."
Some of the lawsuits question whether he was actually born in Hawaii, as he insists. If he was born out of the country, Obama's American mother, the suits contend, was too young at the time of his birth to confer American citizenship to her son under the law at the time.
Other challenges have focused on Obama's citizenship through his father, a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth, thus making him a dual citizen. The cases contend the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from qualifying as natural born.
Complicating the situation is Obama's decision to spend sums estimated in the hundreds of thousands of dollars to avoid releasing a state birth certificate that would put to rest all of the questions.
WND has reported that among the documentation not yet available for Obama includes his kindergarten records, his Punahou school records, his Occidental College records, his Columbia University records, his Columbia thesis, his Harvard Law School records, his Harvard Law Review articles, his scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, his passport, his medical records, his files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records.
"Where's The Birth Certificate?" billboard in Pennsylvania
Because of the dearth of information about Obama's eligibility, WND founder Joseph Farah has launched a campaign to raise contributions to post billboards asking a simple question: "Where's the birth certificate?"
The campaign followed a petition that has collected almost 400,000 signatures demanding proof of his eligibility, the availability of yard signs raising the question and the production of permanent, detachable magnetic bumper stickers asking the question.
The eBay birth certificate seller is a self-proclaimed "collector of old Dominican and Cuban money" and has worked in the Congo.
"This spring I traveled through Kenya and its capital Nairobi. I was overwhelmed by the 'iconicized' face of U.S. President Barack Obama that displays itself throughout the country. I had lunch at a small eatery and noticed that the club sandwich with fried plantains was now known as 'Obama's Plate of the Day,'" the seller wrote on the initial auction page. "As an American I was bombarded with questions in English (English is national language of Kenya) on my feelings and opinions of a Kenyan governing the United States of America. The first several times I responded in saying that not enough time had elapsed since Barack Obama's appointment as president of the U.S.A., and that I'd have to hold my official opinion until at least January 2010, a year in office might be sufficient for me to judge his ability to govern the U.S.A.
"Naturally I thought that by 'Kenyan' they were referring to Barack Obama's blood, being that his father Barack Obama Sr. was a native of Kenya. After a day and a half of my being in Nairobi I learned that they were literally referring to President Barack Obama Jr. as being born in Kenya, a native of Kenya."
The seller also cited the fact that Obama has not release his "Hawaiian" birth certificate. His administration, the seller says, "in an attempt to put the birth certificate issue to a rest, has presented the American public with a fake, forged, fraudulent Hawaiian birth certificate."
The "certification of live birth" posted online and widely touted as "Obama's birth certificate" does not in any way prove he was born in Hawaii, since the same "short-form" document is easily obtainable for children not born in Hawaii. The true "long-form" birth certificate which includes information such as the name of the birth hospital and attending physician is the only document that can prove Obama was born in Hawaii, but to date he has not permitted its release for public or press scrutiny.
Oddly, though congressional hearings were held to determine whether Sen. John McCain was constitutionally eligible to be president as a "natural born citizen," no controlling legal authority ever sought to verify Obama's claim to a Hawaiian birth.
If you are a member of the media and would like to interview Joseph Farah about this campaign, e-mail WND.
Drew Zahn is a news editor for WorldNetDaily.
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posted on
06/30/2009 1:11:59 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple, fight or die.)
To: proud2beconservativeinNJ
Maybe Rush bought the Kenyan birth certificate that was on EBay. What a hoot!
To: Hoosier-Daddy
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posted on
06/30/2009 1:12:15 PM PDT
by
Bon mots
To: proud2beconservativeinNJ; dandiegirl
Rush brought up Obama's birthplace and added how no one knows where Obama was born as there has been no supporting evidence Obama was born in Hawaii. I heard that part. I didn't hear him say he only got a couple of hours sleep and was working on something important.
His comments about Obama's birth seemed to pop up out of nowhere in the middle of comments about Sanford. I hope he's really onto something.
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posted on
06/30/2009 1:12:21 PM PDT
by
ladyjane
To: dandiegirl
and that BO was not a native of Hawaii.
He said 0 may have been raised there, but wasn’t born there, after Snerdly corrected him.
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posted on
06/30/2009 1:13:02 PM PDT
by
txhurl
(Put the pressure on and keep it on until this administration snaps.)
To: txhurl
Rush opened his bank account up to lawsuit for calling 0 a liar and forger regarding his place of birth. Oh, please. I think not.
Obama is a public figure and besides, Limbaugh made no direct accusations.
Why in the world does EVERYTHING said or done by this radio
personality attain some kind of holy status? He's just a guy who talks.
To: txhurl
“Nevertheless, Rush opened his bank account up to lawsuit for calling 0 a liar and forger regarding his place of birth.
Rush just put a whole lotta money where his mouth is.”
Exactly. Love him or hate him, Rush is smart enough to understand that unless he has definitive proof, he’s not going to open his mouth about it.
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posted on
06/30/2009 1:14:26 PM PDT
by
JenB987
To: Hoosier-Daddy
Mark Levin mentioned the birth certificate last week. I wonder if something is up?
Has that birth certificate on eBay been sold yet?
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posted on
06/30/2009 1:15:57 PM PDT
by
smokingfrog
( Don't mess with the mockingbird! /\/\ http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
To: Think free or die
That's it. I couldn't remember. I don't think Rush would be mentioning this if he did not have something to back it up. However, I don't see anything wrong with talking in generalities about how we have none of his records, including the bc and therefore it hasn't been proved where he was born. Why more people don't talk about all the missing records is a mystery to me. They combed Bush's records clean.
To: Hoosier-Daddy
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posted on
06/30/2009 1:17:35 PM PDT
by
so_real
( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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