Posted on 06/21/2009 7:28:09 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
The Birth Certificate Question
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm
Saturday, June 20, 2009 5:44:05 PM · 99 of 113
We have no proof of where Obama was born. Anyone who claims that he was born in Hawaii is suffering from COLB Derangement Syndrome. Hawaii never confirmed that he was born in Hawaii, never confirmed that he has a Hawaiian long-form birth certificate or any other US birth certificate on file, or even if they have anything tangible beyond a computer record.
Most of all, Hawaii confirmed that they never released a copy of Obamas COLB to anyone in June 2007.
Einstein could have called himself, "Humpty Dumpty," and hid his face, but that would not change the fact that he discovered E=mc². Likewise, Obamas 2007 COLB would be just as nonexistent as if I had never discovered that it was nonexistent. But, it is a good thing that I did.
It's positively amazing the amount of effort that people have expended in defense of this piece of crap COLB image that the Poseur-in-Chief now admits to posting online. There is only one reason why, after more than a year, that only one scan image of one side only has ever been made from what is alleged to be Obamas 2007 COLB: it doesn't exist. Obamas 2007 COLB is a forged fake, fabricated in Photoshop, and nothing that anyone says or does can change that fact.
There is absolutely no reason, whatsoever, that the Obama Campaign would not make another, more detailed scan, including one of the reverse side of the COLB, and send that out to quiet critics. No reason, EXCEPT that the document does not exist in the real world. It only exists in the unreal, virtual world of Photoshopped fakes.
BTW, a digital photo is not the same thing as a scan image, and it most certainly cannot be used to validate a scan image. Certainly not when the document object is photographed at a steep angles from the capture device (which were intentional).
Remember that Factcheck.org did not take a digital photo of the reverse side (all that Factcheck photographed was only 1/4 of the entire back page, and only 2/3 of the Seal). Why was so little of the back page shown? Because what was photographed belonged to a different COLB!! Check it out for yourself: the Seal on the reverse side does not match the one on the front side. It is one of several, new discoveries I've made after revisitng the Factcheck photographs.
A year later after the bogus scan image was posted, THAT is exactly what people are still talking about. They are referring back to the original forged image on Fight the Smears and Factcheck. They are quoting Factcheck -- the co-conspirator in this birth certficate scam -- as having "verified" the bogus "scan image."
Recall that Factcheck claimed they photographed the same object that the Obama Campaign scanned two months earlier.
They took these photos SOLELY IN DEFENSE of the scan image that they alleged to have "validated," and to fend off the widespread criticism of the COLB as a forged image. However, they failed to "debunk" the critics. This was all part of an elaborate ruse to create the illusion that Obama had released his genuine, certified original birth certificate to the public.
What is hard to believe are the people in high places who actually believe that this document exists, but of those, here is a segment who also discount it as being proof of where Obama was actually born. COLBs are incredibly easy to get with little documentation required. And, yes, it is a well-documented fact that Hawaii was giving COLBs to foreign-born children.
But the bottom line is that the original "scan image" is what people are still talking about today, and it is an indisputable fact that Obama, or anyone else, does not have a genuine 2007 COLB document. What is posted online is as bogus as a four-dollar bill.
Obama ascended to the position of President by fraudulent means, including document fraud, Internet fraud, voter fraud, and campaign funding fraud, to name a few. The only question at hand now is whether he will be removed by invalidating his election, or by the articles of impeachment. If I were a Democratic Congressman, and I was going to be implicated in this fraud, I'd be calling for impeachment in a New York minute.
FReeper Ron Polarik, Ph D State: Colorado
Did she now?
"ACTIVE social security check on Stanley Ann Dunham
Her SSN is 535-40-8522 from Ancestry.com
A search at intelius.com using that SS# returns 2 addresses in Honolulu, HI and one address for NY,New York.
Stanley Ann's age for this record is shown to be age 66.
Doing a Whitepages.com search yields the following results:
Stanley A. DunhamIt has been reported that Stanley Ann Dunham was at Ford Foundation during Baracks Columbia years."
320 E. 43rd St.
NY, NY 10017
Telephone Number 212-573-5000
Job Title: Part of the Gender Equality Program
Co Ford Foundation
Source here
Her SSN is still alive, under her name. There are also indications that the exact same SSN belongs to a Scott Dunham.
Part of the Gender Equality Program, hmmmm?
Could Barak's mother be a transsexual?
That is a documented fact.
Obama was enrolled in school under that name, and under the religion “Islam”
That is also a documented fact.
It is hard to see how a citizen of Jakarta, Indonesia, could adopt someone, in the country of Indonesia, who was NOT an Indonesian citizen.
Do YOU have an explanation for this, you Democrat Underground troll?
How did a pennyless college kid do it?
You can not adopt someone, under the laws of any country that I am aware of, who is not a citizen of the country where the adoption takes place.
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IOW....you have no proof.
btw...Americans adopt foreign babies all the time.
As for the name calling, it's just silly but you may, of course, keep it up whenever you are asked for supporting data that you don't have.
YOU ARE AN IDIOT!
The adoption of a baby, in the United States, would make that baby a UNITED STATES CITIZEN!
Same is true of an adoption of an American or Kenyan kid, in Indonesia!
You are an idiot, with no deductive logic or reasoning ability whatsoever
And yes, I insulted YOU.
You are insulting the intelligent people on this thread, with your stupidity.
“There’s a possibility that O’s henchmen located his former teacher, called her and arranged for her to be interviewed by the newspaper on Inauguration Day, and made up the story for her to tell to “prove” that O was born in Hawaii.”
Maybe...?
Abercrombie was born in Buffalo, New York to Vera June and Donald Abercrombie.[1] Upon graduating from Williamsville High School (now Williamsville South High School), he went on to pursue studies in sociology at Union College in Schenectady, New York. There, Abercrombie obtained his bachelor’s degree in 1959. He moved to Honolulu, Hawaii and studied at the University of Hawaii at Manoa where he obtained his doctorate in 1974. There he attended classes with and befriended former United States Senator and current United States President Barack Obama’s parents, Ann Dunham and Barack Obama, Sr.[2] As a result, Abercrombie is the only member of Congress to have met Barack Obama when Obama was a child.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Abercrombie
I remember Dr. West saying Barack Hussein Obama, now thats a musical name, said Nelson, who grew up in Kenmore and went to Hawaii in 1959 to be in Jo-Annes wedding party. When Nelson was offered a job as a newspaper reporter and photographer at her friends wedding reception, it led to her living in Hawaii for 47 years. She returned to Kenmore in 2006.
I penned the name on a napkin, and I did write home about it, said Nelson, knowing that her father, Stanley A. Czurles, director of the Art Education Department at Buffalo State College, would be interested in the Stanley connection.
http://www.buffalonews.com/494/story/554495.html
BO was born at Kapiolani Hospital. See the link to the Kapiolani Women’s Center Centennial gala, for a letter from BO himself saying that he was born there. Kapiolani has the letter featured on their centennial celebration page.
http://www.kapiolanigift.org/centennial.aspx?id=1728&ekmensel=c580fa7b_256_292_1728_5
And there is also the little matter of the birth certificate, which the doctor would have signed, and several hospital staff would have seen. The way that used to work was the mother would fill out an information form, the hospital staff would type it up, then the mother, doctor and hospital registrar would sign it. If the COLB is correct, it would indicate that the father was "African", IOW, Negro (the proper term at the time) or Black (the proper term a few years ago).
That is likely the case, although laws differ. Still an adoption cannot remove the US citizenship from a person. That can happen later after they get old enough to renounce their US citizenship, but just the fact of being adopted to a foreign country does not change one's citizenship under US law.
But this tale is easily verified, all he need do is authorize release of copies of his "long form" birth certificate, and the issue would go away.
He's already said that he was born there, and the release of the COLB gives the date. His expectation of privacy has just dropped to zero, so what is the issue keeping the original birth certificate from being revealed?
I know nothing can rock you there browardchad (and I haven’t learned the italics etc thingies still) but I just checked your posts and lo, one recently had you lecturing about attempting to “shut down” discussion on a topic!:
[Obama Issues Statement on Little Rock Shooting? (note the time of posting)
Thursday, June 04, 2009 3:51:41 PM · 33 of 33
browardchad to kralcmot
(snip)
Why let it go? Why is it unimportant? Or, to put it another way, what is “more substantive” in your estimation? Gay marriage? Property taxes? Southpark?
Seriously, I’m always curious when folks want to shut down discussion on a topic. My theory is that the topic makes them uncomfortable on some level, perhaps fearful. ]
Hey browardchad, just call it ‘natural born curiosity’!
I recall meeting up with you as you seemed to be convinced zer0 had Madelyn Dunham done in. Now wouldn’t such natural (born) curiosity on such a murder sustain at least similar on this matter?
They’ll be a tripping point that will push the public mind to a tipping point. The eligibility mater will surface bigtime in time. In the meantime, yes, fight the political fight, yes, to bring forth that tipping point.
Now go use your “pathetic” elsewhere, you being so very good with the barbs!
ROFLMBO!
Read a very special congratulatory message sent by President Barack Obama and read by Representative Neil Abercrombie.
January 24, 2009
Kapi`olani Medical Center
Dear Friends,
I am writing to share congratulations on the centennial celebration of the Kapi`olani Medical Center for Women & Children.
Kapi`olani was one of Hawai`i’s earliest hospitals, and it has served many generations of Hawai`i’s people with distinction. The Medical Center reaches out to children of all backgrounds, and treats more than 62,000 children per year. As a beneficiary of the excellence of Kapi`olani Medical Center - the place of my birth - I am pleased to add my voice to your chorus of supporters.
Hawai`i has always been a home to me, and I’m pleased to take part in your celebration. Thank you for your hard work, and I wish you all the best for the next one hundred years.
Sincerely,
Barack Obama
http://www.kapiolanigift.org/centennial.aspx?id=1728&ekmensel=c580fa7b_256_292_1728_5
[snip]
As a beneficiary of the excellence of Kapi`olani Medical Center - the place of my birth -
!PROVE IT!...;0)
THE SAME NEIL ABERCROMBIE
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2276280/posts?page=207#207
WHO CAME FROM BUFFALO, JUST LIKE THE TEACHER FROM KENMORE...THE SAME ABERCROMBIE WHO WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO SAW OBAMA AS A BABY...
THAT ABERCROMBIE?
It was on his own website last year when running for President. The site was scrubbed long ago.
This was talked about here on Free Republic and at many other websites. Think about it. He was taken from Indonesia to Hawaii by his mother when 10-years old to live with his grandparents. His mother’s marriage to Lolo was disintergrating and little Barry started using the name “Barack Obama” at that time. When he went away to college in California one presumes he had no need to use a passport as he traveled between U.S. states and had a SSN (why the SSN has a Connecticutt prefix is ANOTHER mystery) and presumably a drivers license. He wouldn’t need a passport until he wanted to travel internationally.
I’m always surprised at how many people haven’t been interested in the contradictions inherent in this man’s background, and concerned about the many lies Barack Obama/Barry Soetoro has promulgated, not only about himself but others inside his own family.
I was born in OH in 1970, but lived in FL in 1986 when I applied for my SSN at the age of 16. I can’t remember if I applied because I needed a job or a driver’s license or both. It would be interesting to know when Obama’s SSN was issued so we could research what he was supposedly doing at that time in his life and why he was in Connecticut when he applied. Very curious indeed.
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