New from Polarick: The Birth Certificate Question

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[cycle of discernment]

The Birth Certificate Question

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm

Saturday, June 20, 2009 5:44:05 PM · 99 of 113

We have no proof of where Obama was born. Anyone who claims that he was born in Hawaii is suffering from COLB Derangement Syndrome. Hawaii never confirmed that he was born in Hawaii, never confirmed that he has a Hawaiian long-form birth certificate or any other US birth certificate on file, or even if they have anything tangible beyond a computer record.

Most of all, Hawaii confirmed that they never released a copy of Obama’s COLB to anyone in June 2007.

Einstein could have called himself, "Humpty Dumpty," and hid his face, but that would not change the fact that he discovered E=mc². Likewise, Obama’s 2007 COLB would be just as nonexistent as if I had never discovered that it was nonexistent. But, it is a good thing that I did.

It's positively amazing the amount of effort that people have expended in defense of this piece of crap COLB image that the Poseur-in-Chief now admits to posting online. There is only one reason why, after more than a year, that only one scan image of one side only has ever been made from what is alleged to be Obama’s 2007 COLB: it doesn't exist. Obama’s 2007 COLB is a forged fake, fabricated in Photoshop, and nothing that anyone says or does can change that fact.

There is absolutely no reason, whatsoever, that the Obama Campaign would not make another, more detailed scan, including one of the reverse side of the COLB, and send that out to quiet critics. No reason, EXCEPT that the document does not exist in the real world. It only exists in the unreal, virtual world of Photoshopped fakes.

BTW, a digital photo is not the same thing as a scan image, and it most certainly cannot be used to validate a scan image. Certainly not when the document object is photographed at a steep angles from the capture device (which were intentional).

Remember that Factcheck.org did not take a digital photo of the reverse side (all that Factcheck photographed was only 1/4 of the entire back page, and only 2/3 of the Seal). Why was so little of the back page shown? Because what was photographed belonged to a different COLB!! Check it out for yourself: the Seal on the reverse side does not match the one on the front side. It is one of several, new discoveries I've made after revisitng the Factcheck photographs.

A year later after the bogus scan image was posted, THAT is exactly what people are still talking about. They are referring back to the original forged image on Fight the Smears and Factcheck. They are quoting Factcheck -- the co-conspirator in this birth certficate scam -- as having "verified" the bogus "scan image."

Recall that Factcheck claimed they photographed the same object that the Obama Campaign scanned two months earlier.

They took these photos SOLELY IN DEFENSE of the scan image that they alleged to have "validated," and to fend off the widespread criticism of the COLB as a forged image. However, they failed to "debunk" the critics. This was all part of an elaborate ruse to create the illusion that Obama had released his genuine, certified original birth certificate to the public.

What is hard to believe are the people in high places who actually believe that this document exists, but of those, here is a segment who also discount it as being proof of where Obama was actually born. COLBs are incredibly easy to get with little documentation required. And, yes, it is a well-documented fact that Hawaii was giving COLBs to foreign-born children.

But the bottom line is that the original "scan image" is what people are still talking about today, and it is an indisputable fact that Obama, or anyone else, does not have a genuine 2007 COLB document. What is posted online is as bogus as a four-dollar bill.

Obama ascended to the position of President by fraudulent means, including document fraud, Internet fraud, voter fraud, and campaign funding fraud, to name a few. The only question at hand now is whether he will be removed by invalidating his election, or by the articles of impeachment. If I were a Democratic Congressman, and I was going to be implicated in this fraud, I'd be calling for impeachment in a New York minute.

FReeper Ron Polarik, Ph D State: Colorado

[azishot]

I’m looking at a copy of mine (Certification of Birth) and at the bottom is says:

“This is to certify that this is a true copy of the record which is on file in the Pennsylvania Department of Health, in accordance with the Vital Statistics Law of 1953, as amended.”

[Windflier]

I have met Medved and his family. The only explanation I have is that he is trying to be real careful about turning off the liberal moderates.

Then he's no better than the majority of unprincipled media presstitutes who grovel at the feet of The One.

The man turned me off when I was still in my conservative infancy. I haven't listened to him in a decade now. Looks like my instincts about him have been correct all along.

As the saying goes, "If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything."

I think that fits Medved.

[El Gato]

When your job is to deliver babies day in and day out, who is going to remember 40 years later having delivered the mixed race baby of a no name mother?

People remember the unusual, even when it's not important to them personally. A black baby from a white mother was pretty unusual in 1961. Add to that the fact the mother's name is Stanley, and you've got a pretty unusual occurrence. The same is true, perhaps more so, for the nurses that would have tended to Stanley Ann and her baby BO. Remember in those days, mother's stayed in the hospital for at least 3 days, sometimes more.

People also retrive old memories when stimulated by current events. Someone would remember.

[668 - Neighbor of the Beast]

Thanks, Puzzled. I can understand why only family members are entitled to see an original birth certificate, but the guidelines of the govt office ought to be accessible to any citizen. And if someone over there is looking at a 1961 certificate and issuing a 2009 certification, they shouldn’t be making ANY changes without a rule book to go by.
Pretty sure a 1961 document would have said “Negro,” not “African.” After all, they wouldn’t have written European or Asian. They wouldn’t now. So if they are changing the wording, where’s the authority to do that?
And if they can’t show us such policy in writing, can’t they be challenged in court? Although the inability itself would serve to lend additional credibility to the “birther” case.

[TruthWillWin]

Most of all, Hawaii confirmed that they never released a copy of Obama’s COLB to anyone in June 2007.

That's new, at least new to me. Source for this?

[dianed]

Regarding Census...answer....”Barry Soetoro will not release his BC..”

Great idea! But about the Selective Service info.... It was released and it was an OBVIOUS FORGERY as well. It was released just prior to the election (October 29th) and completely ignored by the MSM.

For the complete info and a copy of Obama’s idea of a “Selective Service Registration Form” go to...

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/11/exclusive_did_n.html

[El Gato]

State simply did not issue BC's in color.>

This is a scan of certified copy of a 1963 Hawaiian BC, created in 1998.

Note the hospital name, doctor's name and signature, hospital registrar's name, and signature block.

BHO's certificate likely looked much like this one, if it was issued by the state of Hawaii.

Note you can click here and get the full size image.

There have been several other Hawaiian birth certificates posted from around the same period, and some from ealier. The ones circa the early '60s look like that one, the earlier ones are black and white.

[Kansas58]

Thanks for the info!
This I did not know, did not see it at the time.

[MHGinTN]

I am giving this from memory, but I recall ‘Ron Polarik’ stating that when he called the vital records dept in Hawaii as he was working on examining the Internet CoLB material and they stated that no request for a CoLB was filed or answered for the date supposedly stamped upon the reverse side of the Internet forgery. The forgery shows June 2007 in the stamp on the back, immediately confirming for Polarik that the document he was examining was not genuine. Subsequently, a retired FBI documents expert—testimony in the Keyes suit in California—has also confirmed that the thing touted as a valid CoLB is no such thing. Her sworn testimony is ,I think, still available ont eh Internet.

[fso301]

People remember the unusual, even when it's not important to them personally. A black baby from a white mother was pretty unusual in 1961.

First of all, even babies born of two black parents can be pale in color. Melanin in the skin takes a while to present itself fully in the pigmentation. The pigment can take from a few days to a few months to come in.

Babies born of mixed race parents are often even more pale initially with up to a year required for the pigment to develop.

On the flip side, babies born of two white parents can be initially dark in appearance.

Hawaii has a minority white population and white-Polynesian relationships were probably not uncommon in 1961.

Remember in those days, mother's stayed in the hospital for at least 3 days, sometimes more.

Yes but in all probability, mother and child did not present the picture of a lily white mother nursing a fully pigmented black baby you are probably envisioning.

People also retrive old memories when stimulated by current events. Someone would remember.

Only if the memory would be remarkable... a head turner. In Obama's case, the mother-child picture was probably unremarkable in the hospital.

[Ditter]

If the skin might be very pale what would a half black infants hair look like at birth?

[browardchad]

This is pathetic.

With all that’s going on in the world — the situation in Iran, the US Navy tracking a N. Korean ship suspected of carrying nuclear material; the economy in free-fall; the unemployment stats; the debate over federal health-care; the takeover of private industry, the imperial dismissal of Inspector Generals who step on the toes of the ruling political party, the nomination of an SC candidate with a racial agenda, etc., etc. — THIS gathers over 100 posts?

This? There’s nothing “new” here — we all know Obama didn’t furnish an original birth certificate. Everything else is conjecture, unsupported by hard proof.

Please stop — come into the real world and start caring about things that just might produce results that matter — like actively opposing the socialist agenda that intends to flatten us all.

[wtc911]

I believe the restriction was in PAKISTAN. You are an apologist for the looney left? You sound like one.

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You believe? How about some proof?

This story started over a year ago as the US did not allow travel to Pakistan. That was de-bunked. Nobody could provide any verification, such as State Department documents or warnings so now the new version is Pakistan didn't allow US visitors. But, nobody can prove that either (can you?).

As for your second remark...it is too childish to warrant a reply.

[BuckeyeTexan]

Obama Presidential Eligibility - An Introductory Primer
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2275574/posts

[El Gato]

That one is an abract, it even has words to that effect.

"full and correct "transcript", not a copy, via photography or xerography, of the original document.

[MHGinTN]

A forgery being touted as authentic CoLB from Hawaiian officials is hard evidence. Get the hell out of the way if you're such a wuss. This? THis? ... Yeah, THIS is the stuff of an illegitimate pres__ent guilty of criminal fraud, running the nation you--we presume--live in.

Sheeple like you don't deserve this nation paid for with the blood of patriots, but others work to try and preserve it for wusses like you anyway.

Just get out of the way--that means shut the hell up on these 'birther' threads if you don't like the action--and whine to your liberal masters when you're visited by their census goons from ACORN. Disgusting

[Kansas58]

OK
I read your profile -—
You do not sound like a lefty, in your profile, but for the life of me I do not understand why conservatives are so shy to get into the documentation battle, with Obama.

Obama forges documents, refuses to release documents, and constantly lies about his own background.

For Heaven's sake, Obama has made millions off of TWO fraudulent “autobiographies” -— at least one of which was probably written by terrorists William Ayers, and Obama got elected to the Senate, and to POTUS, in part based on his false life story.

So why attack all of us who simply want valid documentation?

Also, why can't we see Obama’s entire passport record, from birth forward?

If Obama, indeed, did travel to Pakistan under US Passport, the records wills still exist, he should release them!

More than likely, Obama traveled under a foreign passport, perhaps Indonesian.

Also likely, Obama attended US Schools on a foreign scholarship of some kind.

[fso301]

If the skin might be very pale what would a half black infants hair look like at birth?

Depends. Some babies are born completely bald while others are born with a full head of hair. Of those black babies born with a full head of hair, my understanding is it can range from full afro to wavy to straight. Initial baby birth hair will be replaced with what can be completely different hair in about 6 months.

It's also worth mentioning that due to vaginal pressures in the birth canal, all babies heads are initially slightly elongated or misshapen in the process. There may also be some bruising or swelling, but it will disappear during the first few days or weeks. So, at a glance all babies heads will be of similar shape

Almost all newborns have blue eyes regardless of race. As the baby acquires melanin, the color will change.

[cycle of discernment]

Because wtc911 ALWAYS shows up on BC threads to do this.

Makes you wonder, profile or not.

If he is what he says he is, this activity he pursues is counter intuitive.

Doesn’t add up.

[Kansas58]

Feel free to try and “debunk” this WND story:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=72656