Posted on 06/15/2009 9:47:12 AM PDT by Sleeping Freeper
TEHRAN, Iran - Shots were fired Monday at a rally by pro-reform presidential candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi, apparently by pro-government militia.
An AP photographer said militia fired at the opposition protesters, killing at least on person.
"There has been sporadic shooting out there ... I can see people running here," added a reporter of Iran's English-language Press TV.
(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...
Video of crowd in Iran and soldier on roof firing...( maybe in to the air or....)
See link at #101.
See link at #101,.
Which you were.
btw, the Dalai Lama loves President Bush. :)
President Bush already HAS made comments.........multiple times...........in support of the Iranian freedom fighters within the country.
A comment now from President Obama supporting their desire for freedom would be VERY appropriate.....very American, in fact.
Of course, Obama will not do so for at least three reasons: 1. He is not an American 2. He supports the oppressors. 3. He is a coward.
freedom? Wrong, they want Justice. They want free healthcare, free education and more likely than not free internet.
The idea that somehow these protesters are inherently wise simply because their the opposition is a little disturbing on this site.
I suggest that Mousavi is only upset because HE isn’t the dictator.
Exactly, but we should spread democracy to those who don’t want it just to be sure.
SHAME ON THE COWARDLY MR. IDIOT UHBAMA FOR NOT SPEAKING OUT REGARDING THIS ELECTION!
“There is a huge difference between making a comment and “interference.”
Obviously, but perception is not always the same thing as reality. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would love to turn this into and Iran vs the US fight. It takes the pressure off of him. He will try to portray anything done by the US as support for the opposition, and a reason to come down hard of the students and others who want this revolution to happen.
I don’t understand why you think it is so important for Obama to say something. How can it possibly help this situation? If you just see everything that Obama does as wrong, that is fine, but I am curious about what you see as the positives of an Obama statement.
But I will point out to you that these protestors pre-dated Mousavi and this election, and that there has been a rebellion fomenting in Iran for a long time - and that is why President Bush spoke out frequently on behalf of these freedom fighters.
I suggest you get up to speed on the reality of the situation before you comment again.
It is important because the President of the United States is supposed to stand up for freedom, and not cower. Obama is showing intense weakness because he is afraid to speak out against tyranny.
It is a matter of principle based on our historic support of freedom in other countries around the world (think Reagan if you don't like Bush), and his silence is disgusting.
For me the greater question is, why are you defending Obama's cowardice? Why do you think the Leader of the Free World should remain silent on such a significant issue? Why are you more worried about a tinhorn dictator's response than speaking out in principle?
(btw, Mark Levin just addressed the issue and the harm Obama's lack of support must be doing to the brave young Iranians fighting for their freedom. They now know they are on their own. It's disgusting).
Where are you getting this information?
Is the Bama still going to sit down with the monkey man Ahmadi without pre-conditions?
Ok. You have your mind made up. I told you why I think he shouldn’t say anything. You think he should. You haven’t told me what you think it would help. Only that is what a President is supposed to do.
Obama has failed miserably at everything that he has done, yet for some reason you seem to believe that he could manage to be a positive player in this Iranian meltdown. He can barely read a teleprompter, yet you think he can somehow manage to give support to the students, while not giving any indication that the US is supporting a revolution. You must have a much more positive view of Obama than I do. I think the less he does and says, the better this country will fare.
BTW, these students in the opposition were always on their own. even if the US expressed verbal support, there was going to be no other support. I pray they are successful, and they stay free from harm, but I fear this will be very ugly. They are brave and courageous and they have God on their side. Iranians are more than capable of taking control of their own country, without the help of the US>
Even with the abject failure that Obama is, IF he spoke out for the cause of freedom, it would have a positive effect on those who are risking their lives for it in Iran. Quoting Levin again.......they now know they are on their own. The strongest country in the world has abandoned them. He IS the President of the United States, and he COULD have a positive effect on these freedom fighters IF he did the right thing.
The problem is that we both know that he is worthless (bizarre that you should twist my words and accuse me of having a positive view of Obama......absolutely bizarre), but you seem to want to encourage him to continue to do the wrong thing while I am criticizing him for it.
His silence is disgusting. His support of dictators and tyranny is disgusting. HE is disgusting.
But he is still doing the wrong thing by being quiet. Supporting him on that, for me is unthinkable.
You think it's worthless for them to know the strongest country in the world has your back? Do you not?
Ahmadinejad is empowered and encouraged by Obama's silence. If he rigged the election (which he, of course did), no big deal to America. We are de facto, supporting his tyranny.
Obama's silence is deadly both ways.
That’s not what I’m saying. What I’m saying is that if they want to be free they will do it on their own accord.
Exactly, but we should spread democracy to those who don’t want it just to be sure.
Turns out to mean this....
What I’m saying is that if they want to be free they will do it on their own accord.
That's quite the flip flop.
I hope you've noted that they ARE fighting for freedom "on their own accord." And they will get no support nor encouragement from this bastion of freedom, the United States of America.
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