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You're Confederate ... But Don't Know It?
Unknown ^ | Unknown | Charley Reese

Posted on 06/06/2009 2:57:37 PM PDT by Dick Bachert

by Charley Reese

Most of the political problems in this country won't be settled until more folks realize the South was right.

I know that goes against the P.C. edicts, but the fact is that on the subject of the constitutional republic, the Confederate leaders were right and the Northern Republicans were wrong.

Many people today even argue the Confederate positions without realizing it.

For example, if you argue for strict construction of the Constitution, you are arguing the Confederate position; when you oppose pork-barrel spending, you are arguing the Confederate position; and when you oppose protective tariffs, you are arguing the Confederate position. But that's not all.

When you argue for the Bill of Rights, you are arguing the Confederate position, and when you argue that the Constitution limits the power and jurisdiction of the federal government, you are arguing the Confederate position.

One of the things that gets lost when you adopt the politically correct oversimplification that the War Between the States was a Civil War all about slavery is a whole treasure load of American political history.

It was not a civil war. A civil war is when two or more factions contend for control of one government. At no time did the South intend or attempt to overthrow the government of the United States . The Southern states simply withdrew from what they correctly viewed as a voluntary union. They formed their own union and adopted their own constitution.

The U.S. government remained intact. There were just fewer states, but everything else remained as exactly as it was. You can be sure that, with as much bitterness and hatred of the South that there was in the North, the Northerners would have tried Confederates for treason if there had been any grounds. There weren't, and the South's worst enemy knew that.

Abraham Lincoln's invasion of the South was entirely without any constitutional authority. And it's as plain as an elephant in a tea party that Lincoln did not seek to preserve the Union to end slavery. All you have to do is read his first inaugural address. What Lincoln didn't want to lose was tax revenue generated by the South.

As Northern states gained a majority in both houses, they began to use the South as a cash cow. Here's how it worked: Most Southerners who exported cotton bartered the cotton in Europe for goods. When the protective tariffs were imposed, that meant Southerners had to pay them. To make matters worse, the North would then use the revenue for pork-barrel projects in its states. The South was faced with either paying high tariffs and receiving no benefits from the revenue or buying artificially high-priced Northern goods.

Southerners opposed pork-barrel spending. Their correct view was that, because the federal government was merely the agent of all the states, whatever money it spent should be of equal benefit. Their position on public lands was that they belonged to all the people and the federal government had no authority to give the lands away to private interests.

Northerners had announced they would not be bound by the Constitution. What you had was the rise of modern nationalism fighting the original republic founded by the American Revolution.

So, regardless of where you were born, you may be a Southerner philosophically.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: charliereese; confederacy; confederate; constitution; cwii; dixie; freedixie; freedom; slavery; southwasright; statesrights; warbetweenstates
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To: rockrr
fwiw, on my WORST day, i'm MILES above GARBAGE like you ever are, BIGOT.

DAILY KOOKS is awaiting your arrival, as they want to hear your ignorant,hate-FILLED, SILLY opinions about southerners. BE GONE!

free dixie,sw

501 posted on 06/25/2009 8:55:37 AM PDT by stand watie (Thus saith the Lord of Hosts, LET MY PEOPLE GO.)
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To: stand watie

Funny, that’s not what I hear. Fact is, whatever regard you ever had on this board you managed to piss away. No one ever jumps to your defense any more and increasingly I see people revealing your true deceitful and treacherous nature.

But you are entitled to your opinion, no matter how simple-minded, sick, and disputatious. The management here is tolerating of you even though you offer nothing but rancor and discord. It is of no particular interest to me. You are a bozo and I will continue to point that out. The day that you disappear no one will notice, no one will comment, and no one will care.

Have a nice day Squattie...


502 posted on 06/25/2009 9:20:38 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr
NOBODY & i mean NOBODY (not even most of the other DAMNyankees) care what/IF you think.

you are simply a SOURCE of HUMUILIATION to EVERY FReeper, as you are nothing but a little, prejudiced, LOSER, who is VULGAR-talking & DIM-witted.

be GONE to DAILY KOOKS.

meanwhile, i'll continue to laugh AT you, as MOST FReepers do.

free dixie,sw

503 posted on 06/25/2009 9:26:44 AM PDT by stand watie (Thus saith the Lord of Hosts, LET MY PEOPLE GO.)
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To: stand watie

94 days.


504 posted on 06/25/2009 9:28:39 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
94 or 194, means NOTHING in the long run. what matters is that EVENTUALLY i'll get the book & HUMILIATE all of the DIM-wits of "The DAMnyankee Coven" who have LOUDLY defended N-S's SILLY/false claims.

just out of curiosity, what SILLY excuse will you try to defend your "buddy" with, when the TRUTH is exposed for everyone to see for themselves???

free dixie,sw

505 posted on 06/25/2009 9:33:39 AM PDT by stand watie (Thus saith the Lord of Hosts, LET MY PEOPLE GO.)
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To: stand watie

“The day that you disappear no one will notice, no one will comment, and no one will care.”


506 posted on 06/25/2009 9:34:45 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: stand watie
94 or 194, means NOTHING in the long run. what matters is that EVENTUALLY i'll get the book & HUMILIATE all of the DIM-wits of "The DAMnyankee Coven" who have LOUDLY defended N-S's SILLY/false claims.

"One of these days...you'll be sorry." It would be pathetic if it wasn't so funny.

just out of curiosity, what SILLY excuse will you try to defend your "buddy" with, when the TRUTH is exposed for everyone to see for themselves???

Since I actually have a copy of the book and know that it doesn't say anywhere that 100,000-150,000 free blacks served in the confederate armed forces, I'm not too concerned about that possibility.

Of course, you've already conceded that Blackerby's numbers are useless, since he uses the 1860 census and you claim that those numbers are completely worthless.

507 posted on 06/25/2009 9:44:32 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: rockrr
perhaps, but on the day that you depart FR forever, there will be VAST RELEIF, followed by general jubilation.

as i've said, you are no more than a source of HUMILIATION to the DECENT members of this forum.

free dixie,sw

508 posted on 06/25/2009 2:02:22 PM PDT by stand watie (Thus saith the Lord of Hosts, LET MY PEOPLE GO.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
actually, i HAVE read the book & Blackerby DOES say precisely what i said that he did.

you TOO will be embarrassed when the relevant pages are posted on the forum for EVERYONE to see & comment upon. (i'm guessing that ALL of you DYs wish that you had kept your collective mouths SHUT about something that you knew nothing about.)

i'm still curious what EXCUSE that "N-S's defenders" will try to get "his tail of of the crack". (that will be COMICAL to see.)

free dixie,sw

509 posted on 06/25/2009 2:07:24 PM PDT by stand watie (Thus saith the Lord of Hosts, LET MY PEOPLE GO.)
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To: rockrr
you just cannot seem to write a paragraph without being VULGAR, can you BIGOT???

laughing AT you.

free dixie,sw

510 posted on 06/25/2009 2:10:00 PM PDT by stand watie (Thus saith the Lord of Hosts, LET MY PEOPLE GO.)
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To: stand watie

94 days and counting.


511 posted on 06/25/2009 2:20:11 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: stand watie
i'm still curious what EXCUSE that "N-S's defenders" will try to get "his tail of of the crack". (that will be COMICAL to see.)

It's certainly comical seeing what excuses you've used to explain why a book you've claimed to order twice never seems to arrive.

512 posted on 06/25/2009 2:21:56 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
well, as i said, nothing seems to happen quickly at small rural county libraries in TX, except of course continual requests for more MONEY.

Mrs R_______ says that it's "on order" & i have MUCH more faith in our librarian's truthfulness than i ever will have in yours, given your well-deserved REPUTATION for DISHONESTY.

free dixie,sw

513 posted on 06/25/2009 2:29:25 PM PDT by stand watie (Thus saith the Lord of Hosts, LET MY PEOPLE GO.)
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To: stand watie

“The day that you disappear no one will notice, no one will comment, and no one will care.”


514 posted on 06/25/2009 2:49:51 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: stand watie
Whatever. Bottom line is still the same: After A YEAR of you claiming that you've ordered the book, on two different occasions, it STILL hasn't shown up. Which hasn't stopped you from crowing about how sorry we're going to be when it does finally show up.

What I'm beginning to suspect is that the book DID in fact show up and you couldn't find what you've been claiming it said.

Maybe I'll start posting a page a day from the book. There are forty pages in the "Blacks in Gray" chapter. Do you think the book will arrive before I post them all?


515 posted on 06/25/2009 3:10:07 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep; stand watie

The funniest thing about invincible ignorance? The limitless depths of denial.

Even in the sobering light of calm and dispassionate fact, an iggie like Squat2pee will find wriggle-room in order to further his delusion and evade his cowardice.

“I can’t see the page number!” “You didn’t say what day you scanned that image”. He will find endless excuses and dodges and why not? No one holds his miserable azz to the flames.

At the end of the day we all know the score - Squat2pee has been discredited and shamed and now is nothing more than the klass klown.


516 posted on 06/25/2009 3:35:43 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: KrisKrinkle
WIJG: Quite obviously, you believe the "union" to be something other than a political union.

KK: I never thought about it one way or the other considering the term “political union”.

By all means, please enlighten us - is the union of American States "political," or is it something that is not "political?"

Please answer that simple question. If you suggest that the "union" is something other than "political," please also reference the specific legal grounds upon which that "union" was maintained by federal military force (circa 1861-1865), and advise us why those legal grounds are not also "political" in nature.

In all honesty, you don't seem to have "thought about" much of any thing, based on your posts...

517 posted on 06/25/2009 3:36:02 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("Sometimes I have to break the law in order to meet my management objectives." - Bill Calkins, BLM)
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To: rockrr
"the funniest thing" is that you are so deluded & SELF-impressed that you don't seem to know that you are regarded as PITIFULLY dumb & a BIGOT by most people, who bother to read your mind-LESS drivel.

head over to DAILY KOOKS. you'll fit right in as they are mind-LESS, south-HATING fools, too.

free dixie,sw

518 posted on 06/25/2009 6:14:57 PM PDT by stand watie (Thus saith the Lord of Hosts, LET MY PEOPLE GO.)
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To: stand watie

“The day that you disappear no one will notice, no one will comment, and no one will care.”


519 posted on 06/25/2009 6:21:40 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: stand watie

Actually Squat2pee, the simple truth (something that you abandoned a long while ago) is that even if it were true that I am “regarded as PITIFULLY dumb & a BIGOT by most people”, that would say more about the “most people” than it would me. But that’s not the case and you & I know it.

Despite your vehement and vituperative slanders, I have yet to tell an untruth - a fact you know to be so or you would have thrown it in my face long ago. And I am not bigoted against anyone - except perhaps Lost Cause Losers like you. I don’t hold any antipathy against southerners - as I’ve said several times I grew up in the south. To say otherwise is to lie - something that you do with regularity.

It’s sad that you are so caught up in what others say and feeeeel that you have forgotten how to think for yourself. But you are what you are - a Lost Cause Loser and a loser as a man.

Tis a pity Squat2pee...


520 posted on 06/25/2009 6:34:49 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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