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Victim's family outraged Greyhound bus where man beheaded still on the road
The Canadian Press ^ | June 4th, 2009 | Chinta Puxley

Posted on 06/04/2009 12:47:07 PM PDT by buccaneer81

Victim's family outraged Greyhound bus where man beheaded still on the road Published Thursday June 4th, 2009 Chinta Puxley, THE CANADIAN PRESS

WINNIPEG - The Greyhound bus in which Vince Li attacked and dismembered fellow passenger Tim McLean last summer should be taken off the road out of respect, the victim's mother said Thursday.

Carol deDelley says there was little doubt Vince Li would remain in a mental hospital for now. But she says she worries about the coming years.

A spokeswoman for Greyhound said the notorious bus is now used in another part of Canada.

"After an extensive restoration and cleaning process and a new bus number, the bus is in service in another province," Abby Wambaugh said, declining to say whether Greyhound considered taking the bus out of commission following the tragedy.

McLean's mother, Carol deDelley, said she is haunted every time she sees a Greyhound bus, wondering whether that's where her son's life brutally ended last summer.

"The town I live in is a Greyhound stop," she said Thursday. "I can seldom leave my home, never mind get on the highway, without encountering at least one of those buses."

Li was found not criminally responsible for killing McLean in front of horrified passengers near Portage la Prairie, Man., last July. A judge ruled in March that Li suffered from untreated schizophrenia and did not realize that killing the 22-year-old carnival worker was wrong.

The review board responsible for Li's fate ruled this week that the Chinese immigrant will remain institutionalized for at least another year.

In the meantime, deDelley said the bus that became a gruesome crime scene should be taken off the road.

"That would be the respectful thing to do," she said. "Greyhound doesn't want to lose the cost of a bus. I think it's completely disgraceful. But then again, I never even heard a message of condolence from Greyhound."

The prospect of seeing the bus where McLean was murdered haunts many grieving the loss. In victim impact statements read before the review board, several family members and friends talked about the difficulty of seeing a Greyhound bus on the road.

"I wonder, is that the bus my son was slaughtered on?" deDelley told the hearing. "Did they ever get all the blood out? I don't want these thoughts, they just come. Since I have to travel the highway to get to the counselling and therapy sessions I require for me to cope, what choice do I have?"

Another family friend told the hearing every time she sees a Greyhound bus, she's reminded of the gruesome way McLean died.

"When I see a Greyhound bus . . . I experience a chill," Brenda Lewis told the hearing. "Bile rises into my throat and it chokes me."

Li will only be let out of the secure ward of the psychiatric facility if he is escorted at all times by two staff members and he can only leave the facility if he is accompanied by two peace officers.

"The review board is of the opinion that Mr. Li is a significant threat to the safety of the public," the board's order states.

The detailed reasons for the board's decision may be released in several months.

In its ruling, the board adopted the recommendations of Li's psychiatrist, who said Li no longer hears voices in his head but still needs to be locked up under the "highest level of security possible."

Li's case will be reviewed annually to determine if he is well enough in the future to be released into the community. Attending those hearings will force the family to relive the tragedy, deDelley said.

"Every year, to have to endure this is ridiculous."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: beheading; bus; chinesemuslims; chinesenationals; greyhound; li; vinceli
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To: buccaneer81

If the lady wants to have it taken off the road she should take up a collection, buy the bus from Greyhound and turn it into a memorial herself.


61 posted on 06/04/2009 3:46:57 PM PDT by Ronin (Moderate Taliban? Oxymoron. Obama voters? Plain morons.)
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62 posted on 06/04/2009 4:37:55 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: buccaneer81

Sounds like a good setup for a horror story about a haunted bus.


63 posted on 06/04/2009 5:57:25 PM PDT by Grig
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To: buccaneer81
What bugs me is not that the bus is still in service, but Tim McLean's murderer is in a mental institution and will never pay for the killing because of an idiot Judge who decided to play psychiatrist instead of upholding the law. Vince Li should have been judged guilty of murder by reason of insanity and locked up forever.

Just think, he could be let out in a couple of years, hop on another Greyhound bus and do it again!

64 posted on 06/04/2009 6:21:57 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: Ktulu
Wow look at the compassionate Christians cracking jokes about a young man having his head chopped off while out of the other side of their mouths they talk about how Muslims across the board should be held responsible for the actions of extremists who do the same. Hypocrite scum.

Oh, get over yourself. Black humor and sarcasm is a normal human way of dealing with horror (the beheading) and ridiculousness (the desire of the family to commandeer the bus and make it a shrine).

Good thing you don't run with the EMT squad that I recently joined. We have to clean up after incidents like what happened on the bus. If you don't deal with it with black humor you'll completely lose your mind.

It doesn't mean it's any less horrible, or any less of a crime, or that it wasn't a tragedy.

And BTW, I'm not a Christian, and you can stick your hypocrite scum comments up your pompous backside.

LQ

65 posted on 06/04/2009 9:18:07 PM PDT by LizardQueen (The world is not out to get you, except in the sense that the world is out to get everyone.)
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To: joeu01
Ktulu is right. The comments on this story are way out of line.

Oh not really, the family's demands are so ridiculous as to precipitate such comments.

66 posted on 06/05/2009 6:41:26 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Please God Save The United States From The Democrats, and Barack Hussein Obama. Amen.)
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To: SJSAMPLE
We don’t demolish buildings where murders occur.

No and the World Trade centers were not rebuilt because of all the people that died at that site. I know I am not alone in feeling that the most appropriate response to the terrorist bastards that destroyed those buildings would have been to rebuild.

67 posted on 06/05/2009 6:43:51 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Please God Save The United States From The Democrats, and Barack Hussein Obama. Amen.)
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To: LizardQueen
And BTW, I'm not a Christian, and you can stick your hypocrite scum comments up your pompous backside.

Amen!

68 posted on 06/05/2009 6:46:51 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Please God Save The United States From The Democrats, and Barack Hussein Obama. Amen.)
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To: buccaneer81
judge ruled in March that Li suffered from untreated schizophrenia and did not realize that killing the 22-year-old carnival worker was wrong.

Damn...I'd say she's got way more of a beef with this IDIOT judge than with Greyhound>

69 posted on 06/05/2009 6:50:39 AM PDT by Mopp4
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To: buccaneer81

If the family feels that way they should buy the bus!


70 posted on 06/05/2009 6:56:33 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

100%
As they were, maybe even TALLER.

But, no, we have family members who have no financial interest in the sites, trying to force the city to cave to their particular whims.


71 posted on 06/05/2009 6:57:11 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: buccaneer81

If you want that coach taken off the road, BUY IT!!

Greyhound cannot afford to just dump a $300K + asset because some whiner FEELS like it should be pulled off the road, “Out of respect”. What a load!


72 posted on 06/08/2009 10:09:54 PM PDT by Don W (People who think are a threat to socialism)
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To: LizardQueen

“And BTW, I’m not a Christian, and you can stick your hypocrite scum comments up your pompous backside.”

no you’re just an awful person, have fun with that.


73 posted on 05/05/2010 6:49:38 AM PDT by Ktulu
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

no just finds me I guess...I am more of a reader who posts when something fires me up.


74 posted on 05/05/2010 6:50:25 AM PDT by Ktulu
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