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Victim's family outraged Greyhound bus where man beheaded still on the road
The Canadian Press ^ | June 4th, 2009 | Chinta Puxley

Posted on 06/04/2009 12:47:07 PM PDT by buccaneer81

Victim's family outraged Greyhound bus where man beheaded still on the road Published Thursday June 4th, 2009 Chinta Puxley, THE CANADIAN PRESS

WINNIPEG - The Greyhound bus in which Vince Li attacked and dismembered fellow passenger Tim McLean last summer should be taken off the road out of respect, the victim's mother said Thursday.

Carol deDelley says there was little doubt Vince Li would remain in a mental hospital for now. But she says she worries about the coming years.

A spokeswoman for Greyhound said the notorious bus is now used in another part of Canada.

"After an extensive restoration and cleaning process and a new bus number, the bus is in service in another province," Abby Wambaugh said, declining to say whether Greyhound considered taking the bus out of commission following the tragedy.

McLean's mother, Carol deDelley, said she is haunted every time she sees a Greyhound bus, wondering whether that's where her son's life brutally ended last summer.

"The town I live in is a Greyhound stop," she said Thursday. "I can seldom leave my home, never mind get on the highway, without encountering at least one of those buses."

Li was found not criminally responsible for killing McLean in front of horrified passengers near Portage la Prairie, Man., last July. A judge ruled in March that Li suffered from untreated schizophrenia and did not realize that killing the 22-year-old carnival worker was wrong.

The review board responsible for Li's fate ruled this week that the Chinese immigrant will remain institutionalized for at least another year.

In the meantime, deDelley said the bus that became a gruesome crime scene should be taken off the road.

"That would be the respectful thing to do," she said. "Greyhound doesn't want to lose the cost of a bus. I think it's completely disgraceful. But then again, I never even heard a message of condolence from Greyhound."

The prospect of seeing the bus where McLean was murdered haunts many grieving the loss. In victim impact statements read before the review board, several family members and friends talked about the difficulty of seeing a Greyhound bus on the road.

"I wonder, is that the bus my son was slaughtered on?" deDelley told the hearing. "Did they ever get all the blood out? I don't want these thoughts, they just come. Since I have to travel the highway to get to the counselling and therapy sessions I require for me to cope, what choice do I have?"

Another family friend told the hearing every time she sees a Greyhound bus, she's reminded of the gruesome way McLean died.

"When I see a Greyhound bus . . . I experience a chill," Brenda Lewis told the hearing. "Bile rises into my throat and it chokes me."

Li will only be let out of the secure ward of the psychiatric facility if he is escorted at all times by two staff members and he can only leave the facility if he is accompanied by two peace officers.

"The review board is of the opinion that Mr. Li is a significant threat to the safety of the public," the board's order states.

The detailed reasons for the board's decision may be released in several months.

In its ruling, the board adopted the recommendations of Li's psychiatrist, who said Li no longer hears voices in his head but still needs to be locked up under the "highest level of security possible."

Li's case will be reviewed annually to determine if he is well enough in the future to be released into the community. Attending those hearings will force the family to relive the tragedy, deDelley said.

"Every year, to have to endure this is ridiculous."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: beheading; bus; chinesemuslims; chinesenationals; greyhound; li; vinceli
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To: buccaneer81

Maybe Obama could buy it and use it to throw his friends under.


41 posted on 06/04/2009 1:17:33 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Ktulu

“Hypocrite scum.”

Too much caffeine?


42 posted on 06/04/2009 1:24:09 PM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: Ktulu

Your posting history is revealing. You like to fight don’t you!


43 posted on 06/04/2009 1:32:32 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Please God Save The United States From The Democrats, and Barack Hussein Obama. Amen.)
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To: buccaneer81

“The review board responsible for Li’s fate ruled this week that the Chinese immigrant will remain institutionalized for at least another year. “

In China Li would already have been executed. It’s clear that China has a better grasp on reality than the Canadians.


44 posted on 06/04/2009 1:36:56 PM PDT by joeu01
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To: buccaneer81
I must admit that on a day with HUGE news, this one is the most interesting.

What did they expect them to do with the bus? Insurance Claim? However, I certainly don't want to ride on it.

45 posted on 06/04/2009 1:37:40 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

Ktulu is right. The comments on this story are way out of line.


46 posted on 06/04/2009 1:38:30 PM PDT by joeu01
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To: buccaneer81

Easy solution: The family can buy the bus from Greyhound at a fair market price, and then decommission it themselves.


47 posted on 06/04/2009 1:47:44 PM PDT by john in springfield
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To: buccaneer81

The family should make a cash offer to Greyhound for the bus.
Otherwise, tough luck.

Greyhound wasn’t at fault.
The bus wasn’t at fault.

We don’t demolish buildings where murders occur.
We don’t tear up streets and intersections that were the sites of fatal accidents.


48 posted on 06/04/2009 1:48:37 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Ktulu

I think some of the sarcasm is due to the strange object of the family’s anger. Why direct your anger at an inanimate object? Why not be outraged that this detestable murderer is getting away with it?

But joking about the young man’s horrific death, or anyone’s death, is out of line. Murder is never funny.


49 posted on 06/04/2009 2:04:53 PM PDT by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: The Toll

those damned buses have been taking lessons from those EVIL SUV’s!


50 posted on 06/04/2009 2:14:34 PM PDT by Cheapskate (Play loud and carry BIG sticks!)
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To: buccaneer81; GMMAC; Clive; exg; kanawa; backhoe; -YYZ-; Former Proud Canadian; Squawk 8888; ...

51 posted on 06/04/2009 2:24:52 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: McGruff

> Unbelievable!

Well, if “not guilty by reason of insanity” is a valid verdict, it raises the question “what happens when the accused is no longer insane?” Mental illnesses don’t always last forever.

There will come a day when Li is let out, probably, when he’s no longer deemed a threat. It’s tough to swallow, but it’s a fair call.


52 posted on 06/04/2009 2:40:33 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: joeu01; Ktulu

> Ktulu is right. The comments on this story are way out of line.

Yup. Maybe decommissioning the bus isn’t the thing to do, but laughing about a gruesome homicide isn’t right.


53 posted on 06/04/2009 2:44:37 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: 1rudeboy

> Unfortunately, that appears to be the trend here and elsewhere.

Indeed it does. Here in New Zealand there was a famous mass murder, known as the “Bain Family Murders”, for which David Bain was sent to gaol.

The house in which the family was murdered was burned down.

Now, after over a decade, David Bain has been successful in having his conviction thrown out and a new trial — it is ongoing even as we speak, with the Defense summing up its case.

It has been an interestng re-trial because the murder venue no longer exists. By protraction, neither does any additional evidence that may have been gleaned from the crimescene — DNA or otherwise.

So yes, these things do happen elsewhere.


54 posted on 06/04/2009 2:50:20 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Maybe they should close the road that it occurred on, too.

Close whole province.

55 posted on 06/04/2009 3:00:39 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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To: Abathar
Golden Gate Bridge...

If they close that, they really should close the ocean, too.

56 posted on 06/04/2009 3:03:14 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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To: buccaneer81

Just goes to show, victims’ families can be idiots.


57 posted on 06/04/2009 3:04:57 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: joeu01
The comments on this story are way out of line.

All of them? How many?

58 posted on 06/04/2009 3:05:44 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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To: tet68
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59 posted on 06/04/2009 3:36:24 PM PDT by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To: buccaneer81

They have erected a memorial at company headquarters.

60 posted on 06/04/2009 3:40:00 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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