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Victim's family outraged Greyhound bus where man beheaded still on the road
The Canadian Press ^ | June 4th, 2009 | Chinta Puxley

Posted on 06/04/2009 12:47:07 PM PDT by buccaneer81

Victim's family outraged Greyhound bus where man beheaded still on the road Published Thursday June 4th, 2009 Chinta Puxley, THE CANADIAN PRESS

WINNIPEG - The Greyhound bus in which Vince Li attacked and dismembered fellow passenger Tim McLean last summer should be taken off the road out of respect, the victim's mother said Thursday.

Carol deDelley says there was little doubt Vince Li would remain in a mental hospital for now. But she says she worries about the coming years.

A spokeswoman for Greyhound said the notorious bus is now used in another part of Canada.

"After an extensive restoration and cleaning process and a new bus number, the bus is in service in another province," Abby Wambaugh said, declining to say whether Greyhound considered taking the bus out of commission following the tragedy.

McLean's mother, Carol deDelley, said she is haunted every time she sees a Greyhound bus, wondering whether that's where her son's life brutally ended last summer.

"The town I live in is a Greyhound stop," she said Thursday. "I can seldom leave my home, never mind get on the highway, without encountering at least one of those buses."

Li was found not criminally responsible for killing McLean in front of horrified passengers near Portage la Prairie, Man., last July. A judge ruled in March that Li suffered from untreated schizophrenia and did not realize that killing the 22-year-old carnival worker was wrong.

The review board responsible for Li's fate ruled this week that the Chinese immigrant will remain institutionalized for at least another year.

In the meantime, deDelley said the bus that became a gruesome crime scene should be taken off the road.

"That would be the respectful thing to do," she said. "Greyhound doesn't want to lose the cost of a bus. I think it's completely disgraceful. But then again, I never even heard a message of condolence from Greyhound."

The prospect of seeing the bus where McLean was murdered haunts many grieving the loss. In victim impact statements read before the review board, several family members and friends talked about the difficulty of seeing a Greyhound bus on the road.

"I wonder, is that the bus my son was slaughtered on?" deDelley told the hearing. "Did they ever get all the blood out? I don't want these thoughts, they just come. Since I have to travel the highway to get to the counselling and therapy sessions I require for me to cope, what choice do I have?"

Another family friend told the hearing every time she sees a Greyhound bus, she's reminded of the gruesome way McLean died.

"When I see a Greyhound bus . . . I experience a chill," Brenda Lewis told the hearing. "Bile rises into my throat and it chokes me."

Li will only be let out of the secure ward of the psychiatric facility if he is escorted at all times by two staff members and he can only leave the facility if he is accompanied by two peace officers.

"The review board is of the opinion that Mr. Li is a significant threat to the safety of the public," the board's order states.

The detailed reasons for the board's decision may be released in several months.

In its ruling, the board adopted the recommendations of Li's psychiatrist, who said Li no longer hears voices in his head but still needs to be locked up under the "highest level of security possible."

Li's case will be reviewed annually to determine if he is well enough in the future to be released into the community. Attending those hearings will force the family to relive the tragedy, deDelley said.

"Every year, to have to endure this is ridiculous."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: beheading; bus; chinesemuslims; chinesenationals; greyhound; li; vinceli
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To: buccaneer81

If she can pick it out from a lot full of buses by physical characteristics alone i.e. no number or bus name visible, then maybe they can consider it. Otherwise, life’s tough.


21 posted on 06/04/2009 12:53:58 PM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Islamofanatics" yet?)
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To: buccaneer81

Ms. DeDelley, sorry about your loss. But if it bothers you so much, I’m sure Greyhound would be glad to sell you the bus for a fair price. For an additional fee, they would be glad to demolish it. So if you and your friends care so much, start raising funds. Otherwise, don’t drive up everyone else’s bus ticket prices because of your personal issues.


22 posted on 06/04/2009 12:54:24 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: buccaneer81

Maybe they should have reupholstered it in Red as a kind of
memorial? Put plastic flowers on it?

Paint it black with “Death Bus” in white letters?

Goth riders to get special discount?


23 posted on 06/04/2009 12:54:42 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: buccaneer81
My son was killed by a Mexican and every time I saw one I felt the urge to.......... well try to imagine. It only lasted for 2 or 3 years and then I was ok.
24 posted on 06/04/2009 12:54:57 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Little Pig
If she can pick it out from a lot full of buses by physical characteristics alone i.e. no number or bus name visible, then maybe they can consider it.


25 posted on 06/04/2009 12:56:47 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81
Li was found not criminally responsible...A judge ruled in March that Li suffered from untreated schizophrenia and did not realize that killing the 22-year-old carnival worker was wrong. The review board responsible for Li's fate ruled this week that the Chinese immigrant will remain institutionalized for at least another year.

Unbelievable!

26 posted on 06/04/2009 12:57:22 PM PDT by McGruff (Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency - Obama)
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To: buccaneer81

Okay, we can scrap out the bus for you.

What? You don’t want to pay for the bus, you want our company to just throw it away out of pocket to make you feel better?

I’m sorry, these nice gentlemen will escort you to the door now...

I wonder what they would have asked for if someone threw him off the golden state bridge?


27 posted on 06/04/2009 12:58:52 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

Golden Gate Bridge...

I think I better stop posting while the Dr. has me on Vicoden...


28 posted on 06/04/2009 1:01:42 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’m outraged that they’re outraged.

What I wanna know is who has the job these days to do nuthing but sit at home and try to figure out new ways/reasons for people to be pissed off all the time?

I’m dam mad nobody offered me that job!


29 posted on 06/04/2009 1:02:35 PM PDT by djf (Man up!! Don't be a FReeloader!! Make a donation today!)
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To: buccaneer81

How does a family outrage a Greyhound bus, anyway?


30 posted on 06/04/2009 1:03:38 PM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possiblity of failure.)
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To: buccaneer81

Oh, please.


31 posted on 06/04/2009 1:03:54 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Please God Save The United States From The Democrats, and Barack Hussein Obama. Amen.)
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To: buccaneer81

Why not just cover the seat where the man was beheaded with flowers and candles?? Oh, make that two seats... One for the head and one for the body?


32 posted on 06/04/2009 1:04:45 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: buccaneer81

Whenever I see a Greyhound Bus, I think “OH...WOW! a Greyhound bus!, haven’t seen one of them in years”.

Well...I recall thinking that years ago when I last saw a Greyhound bus.


33 posted on 06/04/2009 1:05:29 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: buccaneer81

He’s dead. Greyhound owes you nothing. Get over it.

Now the moonpie who murdered him is a different story. He should be taken out behind a barn and shot in the head at close range, then fed to hogs.


34 posted on 06/04/2009 1:06:34 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: tet68
Paint it black with “Death Bus” in white letters?

Hello, I am TRYING to eat. I nearly choked to death, laughing, and then where would you be? We'd have to put Death Poster on all of your posts!!

35 posted on 06/04/2009 1:07:40 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: buccaneer81

The useful life of a Greyhound bus is 7.2 years, so eventually the company will take the bus out of service.

If the family wants it done sooner, they can buy the bus or the company.


36 posted on 06/04/2009 1:08:03 PM PDT by Cheburashka ("Ah, Roulette. My favorite game, after Call of Duty.")
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To: trumandogz

>>As long as the head is not rolling around the floor of the bus on mountain roads, I see no problem.

ROFLMAO...

If I ever take a bus again I’ll need to check under the seat.

These people should just buy the damn bus and make a shrine out of it if they like. It’s their problem, not that of Greyhound.

LQ


37 posted on 06/04/2009 1:08:36 PM PDT by LizardQueen (The world is not out to get you, except in the sense that the world is out to get everyone.)
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To: Yaelle
Hello, I am TRYING to eat. I nearly choked to death, laughing, and then where would you be? We'd have to put Death Poster on all of your posts!!

No, we'd have to take the whole Internet out of service permanently. Out of respect.
38 posted on 06/04/2009 1:10:22 PM PDT by Cheburashka ("Ah, Roulette. My favorite game, after Call of Duty.")
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To: LizardQueen

Wow look at the compassionate Christians cracking jokes about a young man having his head chopped off while out of the other side of their mouths they talk about how Muslims across the board should be held responsible for the actions of extremists who do the same. Hypocrite scum.


39 posted on 06/04/2009 1:12:11 PM PDT by Ktulu
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To: buccaneer81
The bus company could put a commemorative plaque on the victims seat.
40 posted on 06/04/2009 1:13:41 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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