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China warns Federal Reserve over 'printing money'
Telegraph UK ^ | 27 May 2009 | Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

Posted on 05/27/2009 8:28:25 AM PDT by hripka

Richard Fisher, president of the Dallas Federal Reserve Bank, said: "Senior officials of the Chinese government grilled me about whether or not we are going to monetise the actions of our legislature."

"I must have been asked about that a hundred times in China. I was asked at every single meeting about our purchases of Treasuries. That seemed to be the principal preoccupation of those that were invested with their surpluses mostly in the United States," he told the Wall Street Journal.

His recent trip to the Far East appears to have been a stark reminder that Asia's "Confucian" culture of right action does not look kindly on the insouciant policy of printing money by Anglo-Saxons.

Mr Fisher, the Fed's leading hawk, was a fierce opponent of the original decision to buy Treasury debt, fearing that it would lead to a blurring of the line between fiscal and monetary policy – and could all too easily degenerate into Argentine-style financing of uncontrolled spending.

However, he agreed that the Fed was forced to take emergency action after the financial system "literally fell apart".

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blingbats; bonds; china; debt; dollar; fed; goldbugs; hardmoneytrolls; money; richardfisher; schifflist; treasuries; treasury
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1 posted on 05/27/2009 8:28:25 AM PDT by hripka
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The Chicoms may be the US citizens best friend right now.


2 posted on 05/27/2009 8:29:28 AM PDT by DonaldC
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Ironic, isn’t it?


3 posted on 05/27/2009 8:30:39 AM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Freedom's Fortress")
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To: hripka
I was asked at every single meeting about our purchases of Treasuries. That seemed to be the principal preoccupation of those that were invested with their surpluses mostly in the United States," he told the Wall Street Journal.

That's because YOU ARE MONETIZING THE DEBT you idiot. Hawk or not, you've got to realize the Chinese can see through "qualitative easement" to the real name "monetizing the debt."

I mean, I know the Fed can count on most people not noticing, but some of us HAVE noticed.

Don't fall for this "Red Chinese" bullsh!t either, they are superb merchantilists and they KNOW a bad investment on sight.

4 posted on 05/27/2009 8:36:14 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: hripka

Bond market dislocation is just around the corner. When that happens, all hell is going to break loose.


5 posted on 05/27/2009 8:38:03 AM PDT by Zeddicus
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[Fisher] has been running a fervent campaign to alert Americans to the "very big hole" in unfunded pension and health-care liabilities built up by a careless political class over the years.

"We at the Dallas Fed believe the total is over $99 trillion," he said in February.
That indeed would be a very big hole.
6 posted on 05/27/2009 8:40:06 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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$99 Trillion....I can’t even comprehend that number. At some point, somebody will have to say stop and that will be it. It will be terrible for those of us going through it, but it will have to be done.


7 posted on 05/27/2009 8:41:58 AM PDT by DonaldC
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To: Zeddicus

Watch the TNX (essentially the ten-year Treasury x10).

http://data.cnbc.com/quotes/TNX/tab/2


8 posted on 05/27/2009 8:42:13 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: DonaldC
The Chicoms may be the US citizens best friend right now.

And our new masters down the road. "The borrower is the lender's slave."

9 posted on 05/27/2009 8:44:34 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (I'm all for cap & trade. I want to cap government's power and trade it for a conservative one.)
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To: Zeddicus; All
Bond market dislocation is just around the corner. When that happens, all hell is going to break loose.

My question is, what does one do that has a large chunk of their 401K in a "stable" fund heavily invested in bonds to protect it from wild stock market swings? Ideas anyone?

10 posted on 05/27/2009 8:47:50 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (I'm all for cap & trade. I want to cap government's power and trade it for a conservative one.)
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To: hripka

The US is the North Korea of Public Spending. Warn us all you want! We WILL print money!


11 posted on 05/27/2009 8:48:17 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Zeddicus
Bond market dislocation is just around the corner. When that happens, all hell is going to break loose.

Could you flesh out what that means to us laymen?

12 posted on 05/27/2009 8:51:26 AM PDT by Claud
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To: hripka

So the Communists are scolding us on our growing socialist ways? Wonder what they know that we don’t? Let’s go to the tagline for that answer!


13 posted on 05/27/2009 8:52:43 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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Not in this lifetime...China is a communist country and an enemy of this country. It is disgraceful that we have enriched China with our trade dollars so they are in a position to tell our government what to do. A powerful dangerous China is the end result of stupid shortsighted trade policies...that never made any sense.


14 posted on 05/27/2009 8:52:56 AM PDT by nyconse (When you buy something, make an investment in your country. Buy Amrican or bye bye America)
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My question is, what does one do that has a large chunk of their 401K in a "stable" fund heavily invested in bonds to protect it from wild stock market swings? Ideas anyone?

Several options:

1. You could go cash, in hopes of buying stocks very cheaply in the future.

2. You could go foreign bonds/bond funds if the value of the dollar scares you, as it does me

3. You could go with gold or silver, not the best investment but a good store of value.

4. Just about anything other than US Treasuries, as they are going to get killed.

15 posted on 05/27/2009 8:53:01 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (control the teleprompter, control the world)
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To: hripka
Mr Fisher, the Fed's leading hawk, was a fierce opponent of the original decision to buy Treasury debt, fearing that it would lead to a blurring of the line between fiscal and monetary policy – and could all too easily degenerate into Argentine-style financing of uncontrolled spending.

Fearing it would lead to? The camel's nose was in the tent years ago - the rest already followed, and now he is rummaging through the fridge and sleeping in the bed. The treasury and fed are past the reach-around phase and are hurrying off to Massachusetts for nuptials before birthing and bailing out from the toilet their giant love-turd.

And yes, I understand their motivation - I don't agree with it though. In the view of the economic overlords, the government is essentially purchasing short term political stability at the expense of long term economic solvency. That is the gist of "saving capitalism from itself" - they think they can head off social unrest long enough for the economy to recover, and that the slower future economic growth post-recovery is a better fate than the attendant sociopolitical upheaval in the event that the $7 trillion shield between shit and fan is brought down (at which point, as they point out, we will pay out anyway).

16 posted on 05/27/2009 8:53:03 AM PDT by M203M4 (A rainbow-excreting government-cheese-pie-eating unicorn in every pot.)
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Qualitative easement or quantitative easement?

Either way, it’s BS. The real name is “monetizing the debt.”


17 posted on 05/27/2009 8:54:00 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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My question is, what does one do that has a large chunk of their 401K in a "stable" fund heavily invested in bonds to protect it from wild stock market swings? Ideas anyone?

A better question is, what will you do when the .GOV seizes all private 401k assetts outright and sticks you with worthless IOUs in a new Social Security-type ponzi scheme?

Bonds essentially have no meaning or illusion of security anymore, as the federal government has now demonstrated the will and ability to completely ignore the rule of law and simply ignore the legitimate claims of senior bondholders.

I shut off inputs to my 401k months ago to prevent further loss, and I'm expecting to lose the entire balance, which I'm unable to yank so long as I'm still employed.

18 posted on 05/27/2009 8:56:22 AM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: hripka

$99 trillion???? Even God couldn’t bail us out at this point.

Ammo: It’s the new currency.


19 posted on 05/27/2009 8:56:43 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (http://ccwsaveslives.blogspot.com/)
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To: NeoCaveman

5. Ammo


20 posted on 05/27/2009 8:57:24 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (http://ccwsaveslives.blogspot.com/)
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