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Live Thread: Obama vs. Cheney
Thursday, May 21, 2009 | Kristinn

Posted on 05/21/2009 7:11:47 AM PDT by kristinn

Obama goes first in a few minutes. He's speaking at the rotunda of the National Archives (you think we could get Nicholas Cage on that birth certificate thingey?) on his Gitmo policy and other man-caused calamities.

Vice President Cheney gets the rebuttal time. He's speaking at the American Enterprise Institute around 10:45 a.m. EDT.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bho44; cheney; clubgitmo; detainees; gitmo; nationalsecurity; obama
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To: syriacus
Summary:
Obama wants to have the final word on the last 8 years.
Anyone who disagrees is quarrelsome.
361 posted on 05/21/2009 8:12:41 AM PDT by syriacus (Obama's MIDDLE GROUND on abortion is a "FREE FIRE ZONE." What's his middle ground on racism?)
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To: STARWISE

Betcha Cheney will have a few ad lib comments...


362 posted on 05/21/2009 8:12:42 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: maica

FNC said before this started that Cheney had TV monitors around the room so he would know when Bambi was through lying!


363 posted on 05/21/2009 8:12:44 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: maggief

Now he is threatening trials of those in the Bush administration while saying he is against it. The guy is a scum bag. He constantly is bring up the last 8 years while decrying it. What a jerk.


364 posted on 05/21/2009 8:12:45 AM PDT by kabar
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To: maggief

Is there a link to the speech???


365 posted on 05/21/2009 8:12:47 AM PDT by jackv (Just shakin' my head!!)
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To: Bender2
LOL!!!
366 posted on 05/21/2009 8:12:49 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Bush Revolution

FOX is going to carry streaming video, so says their website.


367 posted on 05/21/2009 8:12:54 AM PDT by maggief
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To: syriacus

Just wondering, the court decisions in which Obama said they ruled no reason to hold 21 Gitmo prisoners - I’m guessing those were not Supreme Court decisions?

When he said he can’t just do what he wants because of Congress and the Courts, he missed the little fact that as Commander in Chief he damn well can do what he wants regarding our troops at war.


368 posted on 05/21/2009 8:12:58 AM PDT by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
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To: Fast Moving Angel

I was momentarily side tracked. What the Heck is he talking about???? I’m lost.


369 posted on 05/21/2009 8:13:03 AM PDT by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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To: kristinn

370 posted on 05/21/2009 8:13:09 AM PDT by paulycy (BEWARE the LIBERAL/MEDIA Complex)
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To: ken5050

Mark is popping the BP meds as we speak....


371 posted on 05/21/2009 8:13:09 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: Williams

Yes, Obama is on the defensive.

He just stated that he intends to severely curtail the the states secret privilege. WTH?

From Wikipedia:
The State Secrets Privilege is an evidentiary rule created by United States legal precedent. The court is asked to exclude evidence from a legal case based solely on an affidavit submitted by the government stating court proceedings might disclose sensitive information which might endanger national security,[1][2][3][4][5][6] and military secrets in particular as in the case of United States v. Reynolds,[7] the first case that saw formal recognition of the privilege.


372 posted on 05/21/2009 8:13:14 AM PDT by khnyny ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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To: ken5050
I wonder if he gave the Congressional leadership a heads up on this speech..he’s spitting in Reid’s eye, f’sure

He is standing there with a bucket of water while watching Reid and Pelosi burn... the fire is spreading.....GRIN....

373 posted on 05/21/2009 8:13:22 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: Bush Revolution
Now he's saying we shouldn't place blame when that's what this whole speech is about. GRRRRR!
374 posted on 05/21/2009 8:13:33 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: kabar
That's exactly what the Senate was meant to be...The watcher, the realist, the wiser...countering the whims of the house and their constituents....

What's interesting is that Obama obviously thought they would go along with his "take the money" plan...and figure it out later...but they reversed it....Give us a plan....then we;ll give you the money. Congress is catching on!!

Obama can play it two ways...I have a plan or you have a plan...He likes to delegate...In fact, I'd say he's friggin' lazy...

375 posted on 05/21/2009 8:13:53 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: sirjohn

So much repetition.

Now he’s calling himself the decider. How ironic.


376 posted on 05/21/2009 8:13:54 AM PDT by sirjohn
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To: TornadoAlley3

Talk about a strawman, just said his opponents argue that “anything goes” and justify any means to the end.

Not even remotely true.


377 posted on 05/21/2009 8:14:03 AM PDT by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
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To: ladyvet
I was momentarily side tracked. What the Heck is he talking about???? I’m lost.

So is Obama!

378 posted on 05/21/2009 8:14:07 AM PDT by tapatio
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To: khnyny
I'm thinking either Obama is mentally ill or his speech writer is? Maybe both?

sw

379 posted on 05/21/2009 8:14:25 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: jackv

http://www.foxnews.com/

Breaking News Cheney Speaks on National Security, Closing Gitmo Detention Center: Watch Live


380 posted on 05/21/2009 8:14:25 AM PDT by maggief
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