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1 posted on 05/16/2009 7:16:12 AM PDT by Fennie
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that Tel Aviv would start a war without US consent

Like W, they won't ask permission to protect themselves.

2 posted on 05/16/2009 7:18:40 AM PDT by Feckless (No Birth Certificate... No Peace)
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Why does Obama expect Israel to commit suicide just to please him?


3 posted on 05/16/2009 7:22:23 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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if it is between another Holocaust and pissing off our Muslim loving president, is there any question what Israel will do?
4 posted on 05/16/2009 7:25:59 AM PDT by pennboricua
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The MiG-29, one of the fighter jets used by Arab countries and Iran, has been developed to counter American-made jets such the F-16, used by the IAF.
This is from wiki, so... take it for what its worth. But the MIG-29 was developed by the Ruskies to counter the F-15, not the F-16.

And an odd thing in this article and others on the subject is they all say Israel IS using F-16s in this dog fighting practice. Not that the F-16 couldn't beat the MIG-29 but Israel also has F-15's which 'technically' would be a better match for the MIG-29 as they are almost equal spec wise. (Like in Korea with the F-86(1) and MIG-15)

So.. Could the F-16 news be disinformation to lull Iran into thinking an easy victory then Israel actually attacks with their F-15's? Or.. Israel uses BOTH F-16s and F-15s and really though a curve ball at the Mullahs.

(1) The F-86 Sabre is the most beautiful plane ever made. It SCREAMS..... 'Jet Fighter'.

6 posted on 05/16/2009 8:08:43 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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What ever they do God will be with them.


7 posted on 05/16/2009 8:16:04 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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What’s interesting is an Arab country (Egypt, Jordan?) are cooperating with Israel to take our the Persian threat.


11 posted on 05/16/2009 9:13:42 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Obama, the American Allende.)
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Good.


13 posted on 05/16/2009 9:54:13 AM PDT by dr_who
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The Israeli Air Force (IAF) is training against warplanes in service with Arab nations and Iran amid worries in the White House that Tel Aviv would start a war without US consent.

Oh, that's right... Sovereignty is a non-word in the nobama swamp. Such haughty arrogance.

18 posted on 05/16/2009 10:51:44 AM PDT by upchuck (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office.)
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... loaned to Israel by an unidentified foreign country ...

India?

19 posted on 05/16/2009 10:57:53 AM PDT by relee ('Till the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away)
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The Israeli Air Force (IAF) is training against warplanes in service with Arab nations and Iran amid worries in the White House that Tel Aviv would start a war without US consent.

The occupant of the White House is obsessed with having control? Nah.

Yet another demonstration of Obama's narcissism. How *dare* Israel ponder defending themselves against genocide without consulting The One.

22 posted on 05/16/2009 11:47:46 AM PDT by FourPeas (somewhere in Kenya, a village idiot is missing his sidekick)
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The stick Obama holds over Israel would be to cut off U.S. aid. If that happened Israel wouldn't have much to lose in waging a war of depopulation and expansion against its hostile neighbors.
23 posted on 05/16/2009 11:53:54 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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They need to be training their ICBM crews is what they need to be training. Wipe out Iran


27 posted on 05/16/2009 2:04:00 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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Good hunting Israel!

28 posted on 05/16/2009 2:58:20 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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32 posted on 05/17/2009 1:57:52 PM PDT by SJackson (A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity, S. Freud)
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The Israeli Air Force (IAF) is training against warplanes in service with Arab nations and Iran amid worries in the White House that Tel Aviv would start a war without US consent.

How dare Israel behave like a sovereign nation and not hold their breath waiting for US consent to fight for their lives!/SAR

I always wondered why they put up with the arrogance from the US leaders and with a muslim/communist in office I can see no benefit to them at all in kissing butt with Bozo.

34 posted on 05/17/2009 2:36:34 PM PDT by calex59
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