Posted on 05/16/2009 7:16:12 AM PDT by Fennie
The Israeli Air Force (IAF) is training against warplanes in service with Arab nations and Iran amid worries in the White House that Tel Aviv would start a war without US consent.
The IAF has trained against Soviet-designed MiG-29 Fulcrum fighters - loaned to Israel by an unidentified foreign country - to prepare its pilots for missions where they might have to fight a foreign air force, Israel's Channel 2 reported.
The MiG-29, one of the fighter jets used by Arab countries and Iran, has been developed to counter American-made jets such the F-16, used by the IAF.
"We have studied them and are using them to practice dog fights. It is a good opportunity to see how effective our Air Force can be in dealing with a possible adversary," an Israeli test pilot told the channel.
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Like W, they won't ask permission to protect themselves.
Why does Obama expect Israel to commit suicide just to please him?
Because he has no problem trying to “organize” this “community.” The undocumented Kenyan has no allegiance to ANY country, so he can never comprehend the Israelis’ gut instincts for survival or their “never again” mentality. I just hope that the thug-in-chief will have met his match in Bebe Netanyahu. Netanyahu has been around longer and dealt with far worthier adversaries than this thin-skinned, in-over-his-head poseur.
The MiG-29, one of the fighter jets used by Arab countries and Iran, has been developed to counter American-made jets such the F-16, used by the IAF.This is from wiki, so... take it for what its worth. But the MIG-29 was developed by the Ruskies to counter the F-15, not the F-16.
And an odd thing in this article and others on the subject is they all say Israel IS using F-16s in this dog fighting practice. Not that the F-16 couldn't beat the MIG-29 but Israel also has F-15's which 'technically' would be a better match for the MIG-29 as they are almost equal spec wise. (Like in Korea with the F-86(1) and MIG-15)
So.. Could the F-16 news be disinformation to lull Iran into thinking an easy victory then Israel actually attacks with their F-15's? Or.. Israel uses BOTH F-16s and F-15s and really though a curve ball at the Mullahs.
(1) The F-86 Sabre is the most beautiful plane ever made. It SCREAMS..... 'Jet Fighter'.
What ever they do God will be with them.
Why? Because he is the one. The One brooks no one above him or outside of himself. Remember Rule One: It’s all about the One.
You're right. I broke the F-96 rule. So thanks for posting the pics (I should have some bookmarked, but don't)
BUT, I had two PINGS waiting and had to rush off [lousy excuse but that's all I got ;-) ]
What’s interesting is an Arab country (Egypt, Jordan?) are cooperating with Israel to take our the Persian threat.
The 15s probably have better standoff engagement capability... But I think the 29s are more maneuverable than the 15s. The 16s should be better suited to mixing it up in a furball - which is likely to result when you can't use hit and run tactics. As in when you're tied to a slower moving strike package...
Go IAF, ignore obambi, he is a literal babe in the woods when it comes to, well, everything. He has no practical experience or knowledge.
Good.
Thank goodness Bibi will not drink the KoolAide. Netanyahu drew bigger crowds at evangelical churches than he did at temples in the USA.
Why does Obama expect Israel to commit suicide just to please him?
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Yes. I believe some ‘deals’ were made ‘pre-election’.
Sunni and Shia. Iran is Sunni?? I think it could also be an eastern European country’s Mig 29.
Modern jets are pretty much push button high tech systems but you still need a good pilot and training. Israel has a very good air force and pilots at least on par with advanced western or former Soviet block countries. I doubt any ME country has the training on par with Israel.
The division between the mountainous Persia and the plains of Mesopotamia go back to the days of Nineveh, Ur and Babylon. Sunni - Shia, Arab - Persian is just the lastest version of the split.
Oh, that's right... Sovereignty is a non-word in the nobama swamp. Such haughty arrogance.
India?
Strange as it may be, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Isreal may be getting along very well. They may not even need the USA.
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