Hadrosaur Soft Tissues Another Blow to Long-Ages Myth (first T. rex, then another T. rex, now this!)

Pictures of T. rex soft tissue!

Hydrosaur soft tissue!:

1 posted on 05/12/2009 7:26:20 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

To: Finny; vladimir998; Coyoteman; allmendream; LeGrande; GunRunner; cacoethes_resipisco; ...

2 posted on 05/12/2009 7:27:14 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

I know under very unusual circumstances soft tissue can fossilize, but in these cases I think it is only on gross examination and that microscopically it breaks down.

3 posted on 05/12/2009 7:31:36 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")

The simplest explanation for the presence of blood vessels and their proteins in these bones is that the dinosaurs were recently and rapidly inundated and preserved, just as one would expect to observe in a world that began thousands rather than millions of years ago.

How does the age of the tissue indicate the age of the planet?

4 posted on 05/12/2009 7:32:48 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)

"...The simplest explanation for the presence of blood vessels and their proteins in these bones is that the dinosaurs were recently and rapidly inundated and preserved, just as one would expect to observe in a world that began thousands rather than millions of years ago."

Interesting.

5 posted on 05/12/2009 7:34:02 PM PDT by 2111USMC

PRESERVED T. Rex Soft Tissue RECOVERED (Pic)
Star Tribune | 03.24.05 | Randolph Schmid
Posted on 03/24/2005 3:04:54 PM EST by wallcrawlr
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1369945/posts

Would you Adam ‘n’ Eve it ... dinosaurs in Eden
(CRE-VO) Mixing science with creationism
The Observer | May 22, 2005 | By Paul Harris
Posted on 05/25/2005 12:14:01 AM EDT by restornu
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1409928/posts
24 posted on 05/25/2005 4:13:53 PM EDT by tahotdog
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1409928/posts?page=24#24

Scientists see the softer side of Tyrannosaurus Rex
[Surviving soft tissue w/ pics]
Science Now | 10/1/2006 | staff
Posted on 10/01/2006 11:12:10 AM EDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1711619/posts

Ancient T. rex and mastodon protein fragments discovered, sequenced
National Science Foundation | 12-Apr-2007 | Cheryl Dybas
Posted on 04/12/2007 3:43:57 PM EDT by AdmSmith
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1816333/posts

BBC: Protein links T. rex to chickens ~ ummm tasty....
BBC | Thursday, 12 April 2007 | Paul Rincon
Posted on 04/12/2007 4:57:11 PM EDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1816370/posts

Scientists Retrieve Proteins From Dinosaur Bone
New York times | April 12, 2007 | John Noble Wilford
Posted on 04/12/2007 5:05:00 PM EDT by gcruse
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1816375/posts

Dinosaur protein sequenced - Lucky find shows up record-breaking fossil.
news@nature.com | 12 April 2007 | Heidi Ledford
Posted on 04/13/2007 6:14:00 PM EDT by neverdem
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1817005/posts

Dinosaur research backs link to birds
AP on Yahoo | 4/14/07 | Randolph E. Schmid - ap
Posted on 04/15/2007 1:18:48 AM EDT by NormsRevenge
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1817592/posts

Oldest Dinosaur Protein Found — Blood Vessels, More
National Geographic | May 1, 2009 | John Roach
Posted on 05/01/2009 11:43:11 PM PDT by nickcarraway
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2242582/posts

- cre/vo “great divide” -

Dinosaur Shocker
(YEC say dinosaur soft tissue couldn’t possibly survive millions of years)
Smithsonian Magazine | May 1, 2006 | Helen Fields
Posted on 05/01/2006 11:29:14 AM EDT by SirLinksalot
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1624642/posts

The scrambling continues (Fallout over T-rex bone tissue continues)
Answers in Genesis | March 6, 2006 | Staff
Posted on 03/10/2006 9:25:07 AM EST by DaveLoneRanger
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1593799/posts

Dino Skin Preserved in Rare Fossil Find
Discovery News | November 21, 2006 | Jennifer Viegas
Posted on 11/23/2006 12:43:21 AM EST by DaveLoneRanger
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1742984/posts

Dinosaur Blood Protein, Cells Recovered (yet more evidence for Young Earth Creation!!!)
CEH | April 30, 2009
Posted on 04/30/2009 6:49:22 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2241706/posts

First dino ‘blood’ extracted from ancient bone (more evidence for young earth creation!)
New Scientist | April 30, 2009 | Jeff Hecht
Posted on 05/01/2009 8:25:18 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2242071/posts

Hadrosaur Soft Tissues Another Blow to Long-Ages Myth (first T. rex, then another T. rex, now this!)
ICR | May 12, 2009 | Brian Thomas, M.S.
Posted on 05/12/2009 7:26:20 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2249728/posts

6 posted on 05/12/2009 7:40:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)

To: tacticalogic

One of the points often raised by doubters of Evolution is the circular logic that can be used in dating:

We know T. Rex is 100 million years old, because we find the fossils in rocks which are 100 million years old.
And we know these rocks are 100 million years old, because they contain T. Rex fossils.

To a certain extent, if the animal is found not to be quite so old, then it becomes difficult to make the case that the rocks are so very old.

7 posted on 05/12/2009 7:43:57 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (American Revolution II -- overdue)

To: ClearCase_guy

One of the points often raised by doubters of Evolution is the circular logic that can be used in dating: We know T. Rex is 100 million years old, because we find the fossils in rocks which are 100 million years old. And we know these rocks are 100 million years old, because they contain T. Rex fossils.

So basically it's assumed that if it's possible to use circular logic, that's what's being used?

To a certain extent, if the animal is found not to be quite so old, then it becomes difficult to make the case that the rocks are so very old.

That seems to rely on an assumption that the rocks in question are the oldest rocks there are.

8 posted on 05/12/2009 7:48:44 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)

To: ClearCase_guy; tacticalogic

To a certain extent, if the animal is found not to be quite so old, then it becomes difficult to make the case that the rocks are so very old.

Maybe the T. Rex just had very sharp claws and was able to dig into the rock, and then meticulous replace the rock back into place in such a way as to give the appearance of the rock never having been disturbed?

Either way, we KNOW that the T. Rex is billions and billions of years old, since that's what Richard Dawkins said.

9 posted on 05/12/2009 7:51:22 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Spock didn't need a teleprompter)

"Some have suggested that the soft tissues were made by bacteria, though this does not fit the observed data"

That's really grasping at straws too, since the alleged bacteria would need a source of nourishment to be there in such large numbers as to appear as dyno tissue.

10 posted on 05/12/2009 7:51:30 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)

Allow me to beat them to the punch...

I’ve done some thinking over the past few minutes... the conclusion I’ve come to is that my point of view has been wrong all this time. Even though I didn’t bother to read the post, I feel that you should know all of the references are blatantly incorrect and there is no truth in the claim that this has any direct or indirect impact on the true, factual, indisputable theory (in the scientific sense) of evolution. Anyone who believes this post does anything more than PROVE beyond the shadow of a doubt the earth is trillions of eons old, is a moronic, creationist, nincompoop without a shred of original thought.

SHAME ON YOU, MR. GODGUNSGUTS FOR SPREADING YOUR EVIL PROPOGANDA... SHHAAAMMEE ON YOU!!!!!!

I feel better now.

11 posted on 05/12/2009 7:55:14 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Jesus said, "I am THE way, THE truth and THE life." Any questions?)

To: editor-surveyor

Three dinos later they are actually starting to face the facts. It would appear that soft-tissue in dinos is fixing to be a regular facet of the fossil record.

12 posted on 05/12/2009 7:55:39 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

To: tacticalogic

Dang it!

I was in too late.

13 posted on 05/12/2009 7:57:03 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Jesus said, "I am THE way, THE truth and THE life." Any questions?)

To: ClearCase_guy; tacticalogic

"To a certain extent, if the animal is found not to be quite so old, then it becomes difficult to make the case that the rocks are so very old."

Obviously the formation cannot be older than the critter that's buried under it.

As you can see, the evos are in panic-overdrive here, throwing their illogical assertions left and right to cloud the issue.

14 posted on 05/12/2009 7:59:47 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)

To: Gordon Greene

I am sure all the Evos thank you for verbalizing their thought process and faith commitments for them. That way they can keep pouring milk over the darwin idols without interruption!

15 posted on 05/12/2009 8:00:13 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

To: editor-surveyor

As you can see, the evos are in panic-overdrive here, throwing their illogical assertions left and right to cloud the issue.

Can you show me one of these "illogical assertions"?

16 posted on 05/12/2009 8:01:20 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)

That way they can keep pouring milk over the darwin idols without interruption!

Darvinae su requiem?

17 posted on 05/12/2009 8:02:10 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Spock didn't need a teleprompter)

To: editor-surveyor

Obviously the formation cannot be older than the critter that's buried under it.

I don't know, I think my "rock clawing and meticulous replacement" theory has some merit.

18 posted on 05/12/2009 8:03:44 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Spock didn't need a teleprompter)

Yabba Dabba Doo Creationism!

19 posted on 05/12/2009 8:04:25 PM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")

" It would appear that soft-tissue in dinos is fixing to be a regular facet of the fossil record"

Certainly no surprise to me, after the many mammoths that I have seen with skin and connective tissue remaining on parts of their legs.

20 posted on 05/12/2009 8:04:34 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)

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