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For Conservatives who seriously want to kick some RINO butt...
5/10/09 | Ron C

Posted on 05/10/2009 1:08:11 AM PDT by Ron C.

Warning – this is a long and ‘windy’ post – not recommended for the semi-conservative or casual reader.

Lately I’ve ran across many a post and comment on FR that made me decide to again post about politics - for the sake of many of the newer Freepers – and for this nations sake. This post by Jim Robinson is corollary to what follows. Read it – Jim defines what I call a complete conservative.

Now, the first item of business - the definition of the 'Republican Party,' a.k.a., the GOP. A few members of Congress, a couple of state governors and a few past candidates for high office generally prompt the greatest amount of disparagement of the GOP on this website. Their voting screw-ups and lackluster comments are often used to denigrate 'the GOP' in general and often followed by statements such as, "Screw the GOP, I’ll never vote Republican again." That insults many, and proves that writers know little to nothing about party maintenance, or have any clue as their own responsibility for it. Yet, it is literally the voting public at large that determines what a political party becomes – it’s strengths and it’s weaknesses are a direct result of the level of public oversight and involvement in all aspects of party function and activity at the local level. Ignore that, and you get ever-poorer performance at the top – on par with the poorer performance of the citizenry in general at the bottom (local level.)

First - what the GOP is not. It is not defined by, nor do sitting members of Congress solely constitute ‘the GOP’ – yet that is the most common perception. Nor is the RNC, with a mere 165 members 'the GOP.' (All of them count in the national total, yet they are a distinct minority, very much outnumbered and at the eventual certain mercy of the total. Oh, sure – they are a powerful minority – but ultimately irrelevant in the face of the majority.)

"The party," - all political parties are made up solely of elected and appointed members within each State of the Union, along with a few chartered party club members which are by charter are allowed to join the party, pay dues, and allowed to vote in state and local party business. In California, the most populous state, there are only about 3,000 dues-paying party members qualified to vote in party business meetings and in State Party Conventions. The huge majority of GOP members in every state are elected district party representatives in local district 'central committees' – aka, 'wards' in eastern states. Of course, any elected state GOP officeholder is a member, as are any alternates or those they are allowed to appoint as members of the state party. In smaller States, the number is much less. An average per state would be perhaps 1,000 party members in the more numerous smaller states.

There is no published figure of what the 'total GOP party members nationally' is, nor is there such a figure for the 'Democratic' Party. The entirety of the GOP is not more than 62,000 members nationally.

So, lump all the RINO’s you can think of that currently serve in state and national government together, and add up the figure. Lets say you know a lot of RINO’s in Congress, and in State legislatures – and you can come up with as many as 100 of them. That would be .19% of total GOP membership – hardly representative of the huge majority at the local level, most of them quite conservative.

The second item of business here is wrapped up in what it means to be 'conservative.' You’ll not find a better definition of it than what Jim Robinson had to say in that link above. But I would go quite a bit further than Jim did – particularly in using that word 'aggressively.'

If you are under attack and faltering, and the GOP is – and if you really want to aggressively alter the makeup of the GOP – you become part of it. I did, and I have made a big difference (admittedly in the somewhat past) – by being a key force in routing RINO’s from State party leadership positions in droves. If you are really conservative, you join the war – where it counts. Either true conservatives help keep the party conservative – or you fail the final test of conservatism itself. That failure became ever greater after Ronald Reagan was elected – to the point that today less than .01 percent of GOP affiliated voters ever darken the doors of GOP meetings in their own neighborhood – and many that do are not conservative. That low number is a measure of the knowledge of the pubic in general, and of Conservatism wisdom in particular. Yet that door is THE most critical place where conservatives can help ensure the level of conservatism within the party. It seemed that once Reagan was in office, conservatives felt that their presence in the system was no longer needed. Also distressing has been the steep decline in the number of the 'faithful' – which should understand being 'watchmen on the wall' far better than those without wisdom. Sadly, today the level of Church involvement has declined to its lowest point in US history – yet, in stark comparison, during the Founding Era ministers were literally among those at the forefront of political activity.

Third - one thing needs to be understood clearly. Conservatives are extremely unlikely to ever prosper outside of the Republican Party. They must either fight to keep it pure (that is, socialism / socialist free) at the local level – or haul up the white flag of surrender. Third parties have done nothing to prosper conservatism, throughout this nation’s history. In fact, the few that have claimed conservatism (and largely aren’t) have repeatedly succeeded in doing nothing more than electing Democrats in the districts where third party candidates drew 1 to 2% of the vote – the margin by which the Democrat won. When any do gain office, they generally prove far less than conservative.

In fact the largest 'third party' vote ever recorded in US history was that of the 'Progressive Party' under Theodore Roosevelt, which drew 27.4% of the vote. But, note well - in the early 1900’s Democrats were the conservatives, while Republicans were the first to drift off into ‘progressive’ socialist politics. Unfortunately for us today, early 1900’s 'progressive' Republicans radically altered our political process, by co-opting political power to the top of the political ladder from the local level where it had resided for over 130 years. That single action helped send the party into the wilderness for near 50 years, and while it was there Democrats turned socialist and the Republican Party slowly became conservative.

Ultimately the degree of conservative success rests with conservatives themselves. And, if you’re like me – you’re a working stiff with a job somewhere or you’re working your buns off keeping a home together, caring for your family. You don’t have a lot of time – or a lot of money to sink into political activities, so if you’re going to do anything – you need to know how to be most effective with what little time you have. And believe me, you can be very effective, if you know what to do – and that is, walk into the real political arena nearest to you – at the local level, and figuratively, put on your political brass knuckles.

It is probably less than twenty minutes away from the front door of most Freepers. And, quite likely, you can gain a voting seat (without election) – simply by showing up – once or twice a month. (That is, if the local district committee is a few people shy of their allotted number of seats filled.) But, even if all the seats are filled, they all need alternates to sit in for them when they cannot attend for some reason. So take a friend or family member with you. It is worth noting here that quite often only one or two people will actually go to the trouble of getting the few signatures that it takes to get on the ballot for the Central Committee in a California district. When that happens, they are ‘elected’ by default. The position and their names don’t even appear on the ballot! Then, THEY get to appoint the remaining people to bring the district committee to its allotted number. That is a stark difference from public oversight – or 'conservative' attention to what makes up the party they choose to affiliate with. It is such apathy and indifference that has produced the squishy nature of the GOP in the largest and most populous states, and has led to ever greater pollution in even the most conservative states.

For over two decades, I voted many times per month – at the local district level, and at the county level. And, as a dues paying elected or appointed member of the state GOP, I voted often at all state conventions. I worked hard to purge liberals from any power in the state party, and I became highly effective at it. Ask RINO Pete Wilson how effective I have been. Ask Arianna Huffington, and her millionaire switch-hitting ex-husband Michael (with a very obvious case of aids) who both came lurking around the CA GOP, claiming that they were staunch Republicans. (Luckily, I knew about Arianna’s deranged past long before she came in the door – thanks to early use of the then brand new Internet.) Neither one got far, and both eventually left the GOP after being exposed for what they both were.

Bottom line, if Freepers really hope to see a GOP that harks back to conservative principles, and want to aggressively pursue such a goal - the only process that is effective begins at the most numerous level of the elected party – a few minutes away from your home. If we cannot be guardians at these most important gates to the political arena – forget about it at the state and national level. It is within this arena that conservatives can effectively block RINO’s from moving higher up the political ladder – by identifying them through personal contact, listening to their conversation, finding out what they believe and would like to see come to pass in future legislation. It is in this arena that you can identify the best – and help promote them toward higher office – and easily stop the worst of the worst.

The Reagan Revolution was initially energized by thousands of conservatives that had begun with Barry Goldwater a few years prior. In those days, back-yard political gatherings attracted literally thousands of local teens and college youth – and their parents – all of whom provided an energy level beyond any seen prior or since.

Conservatives could easily make that all happen once again – if enough of them decide they really want to become aggressive at making a political difference. Absent such an effort – conservatives will have only themselves, and their personal lack of effort to blame. Samuel Landon, one of our Founding Fathers, said it best. "On the people, therefore, of these United-States it depends whether wise men, or fools, good or bad men, shall govern them; whether they shall have righteous laws, a faithful administration of government, and permanent good order, peace, and liberty; or, on the contrary, feel insupportable burdens, and see all their affairs run to confusion and ruin."

Samuel Langdon is also quite famous for the following quote, from the same sermon. (spelling here is as in the original.)

"From year to year be careful in the choice of your representatives, and all the higher powers of government. Fix your eyes upon men of good understanding, and known honesty; men of knowledge, improved by experience; men who fear God, and hate covetousness; who love truth and righteousness, and sincerely wish the public welfare. Beware of such as are cunning rather than wise; who prefer their own interest to every thing; whose judgment is partial, or fickle; and whom you would not willingly trust with your own private interests. When meetings are called for the choice of your rulers, do not carelessly neglect them, or give your votes with indifference, just as any party may persuade, or a sordid treat tempt you; but act with serious deliberation and judgment, as in a most important matter, and let the faithful of the land serve you. Let not men openly irreligious and immoral become your legislators; for how can you expect good laws to be made by men who have no fear of God before their eyes, and who boldly trample on the authority of his commands? And will not the example of their impiety and immorality defeat the efficacy of the best laws which can be made in favour of religion and virtue? If the legislative body are corrupt, you will soon have bad men for counsellors, corrupt judges, unqualified justices, and officers in every department who will dishonor their stations; the consequence of which will be murmurs and complaints from every quarter."

Sorry my rant is so long - but, unfortunately in some ways it is not nearly long enough. For those that have never really entered the political arena, there is a world of things you should know, and will have to learn on your own, and from others that have gone before you. I can not say it more bluntly than this - if you do not go, learn, and fight - then who will?

May God bless you...

Ron


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To: Kenny Bunk
... talking pundits of the airwaves have never mentioned this."

I've long noticed, and tried to change that very thing. In a few cases I was successful - in one instance, very. One lady talker really went after it in 1980 - and brought in a host of new people that helped mightily to turn the state party around and get them back on the right track. It was a war, but the good-guys won... big.

81 posted on 05/10/2009 12:15:22 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.

BTTT!


82 posted on 05/10/2009 12:16:27 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Ron C.

bump for later read


83 posted on 05/10/2009 12:18:28 PM PDT by hattend (Sarah Palin has run a fishing business, a city, and a state. All Obama has done is run his mouth.)
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To: Chris DeWeese
"I think we have seen too many conservatives become the establishment."

Oh? When was that? During Reagan's terms? Was that too conservative for you?

What we have seen since Bush 1 is too few conservatives. Too few to stand and fight where it counts. Too few who really want to do battle.

84 posted on 05/10/2009 12:20:33 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.

Pssst... Reagan’s dead.


85 posted on 05/10/2009 12:26:11 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Remember, remember, the Fourth of November, the Socialist treason and plot...)
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To: EternalVigilance
"There is not a reason on God’s green earth that we can’t have principled AND competent people in elected office."

Except in those instances where the people don't give a hoot who gains elected office. That is, they don't care who gets elected at the lowest level of the party.

Your point then, is my point. But, it is up to us at the local level to make sure we have principled and competent people at these lowest-level offices.

Thankfully, many freepers ARE moving that way... but, more need to know that they can effectively fight the principled battle near where they live.

No - it's not about the party. That is just the vehicle. It is about who rides in the vehicle.

86 posted on 05/10/2009 12:36:29 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.

I would like to kick democrat butt. Why is that not in the title?


87 posted on 05/10/2009 12:38:01 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Ron C.

Your problem isn’t who is riding in the vehicle. It’s who has their hands firmly in control of the wheel. And it ain’t principled conservatives, I can tell you that.


88 posted on 05/10/2009 12:42:15 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("I tremble for my country when I consider that God is just.")
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To: Ron C.
"Independent voters are often in jobs where they would not prosper if they were registered GOP"

Where did you come up with that?
89 posted on 05/10/2009 12:52:54 PM PDT by j.simmons
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To: Ron C.
Hey, here's an idea!

Let's build a party where everyone involved is a principled conservative, one in which the people themselves control all the levers of power, and in which the "media" and money don't determine the outcome.

90 posted on 05/10/2009 12:57:00 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("I tremble for my country when I consider that God is just.")
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To: don-o

It would be helpful to those new to political activism if those in the know would actually lay out specific strategies on how to reclaim the party.


91 posted on 05/10/2009 1:07:33 PM PDT by j.simmons
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To: EternalVigilance

Principled conservatives support reparations for slavery?


92 posted on 05/10/2009 1:08:44 PM PDT by j.simmons
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To: Chris DeWeese
"If the party forces us to the left again, it will lose again - at least with me."

You're quite correct. A liberal GOP candidate will lose, and damned rightfully so... and by (hopefully) a wide margin.

BUT - that is no reason whatsoever to walk off the battlefield. What you speak of is the Presidential election, but there are tens of thousands of elections below that big one - all of which are just as important, and in many respects MORE important.

The foundation has to be maintained. If it is not, the structure is unsound, there are too few principled and competent people to rise to important intermediate offices.

I saw Reagan rise from the bottom, in a liberal state - to become Governor, then President. That took a lot of people at the bottom to pull off. I was there, and saw how many. Not surprisingly, there were many conservative Dems and Indy's involved. It took a strong state GOP party across the state - populated in every district by dedicated conservatives.

Yes - the 'establishment' (meaning the RNC and sitting legislators) can upset state GOP candidates with donor money.

Don't EVER send a dime to the RNC... or any other GOP fund. Put your money in local races, and push true conservatives for local office. Almost ALWAYS keep your money local - until you see the best of the best running for national office.

Don't even send money to your state GOP. Keep it local, or use it local - in your own district, where you can dictate how it is used, and for what purpose.

93 posted on 05/10/2009 1:09:42 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.
It is easy when enough people get out from in front of the propaganda box, and get busy.

Party members have had the opportunity to thwart the incremental socialism for years. Obviously there has not been enough desire to restore conservative principles.
94 posted on 05/10/2009 1:15:05 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: j.simmons

No, they don’t.

If you’re referring to Dr. Keyes, he doesn’t support reparations. Never has. He has spoken out against them for decades.

You really shouldn’t buy into the Alinskyite talking points of the Obama campaign and their IL Republican RINO allies.


95 posted on 05/10/2009 1:15:23 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("I tremble for my country when I consider that God is just.")
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To: webschooner
"Why is this in Breaking News?"

See post 75.

96 posted on 05/10/2009 1:16:29 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: j.simmons
The AIP platform is HERE.
97 posted on 05/10/2009 1:16:58 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("I tremble for my country when I consider that God is just.")
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To: Ron C.
If we allow RINO's to waltz right into the party

Your party is an open association. You have no say over who is in your party, intrinsically.

It's as if you lived in a big house on the edge of skid row, one in which you had a big sign in the front yard saying, "Anyone who wants can live here!"

How long do you think you'd want to live in your own house?

The very nature of the way the Republican Party is constructed made its demise inevitable. It took me many years to figure this out, but once I did figure it out, the choices about what to do about it became very clear.

98 posted on 05/10/2009 1:22:12 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("I tremble for my country when I consider that God is just.")
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To: ConservativeMind
".. may very well do what you suggest."

You won't regret it. You will be 'lost' for a while, before you understand how things work, and while you are learning Roberts Rules of Order. But, it does not take that to know a turkey when you see one. Principles are principles, and you'll have an effect.

If you do attend your local district meetings, tell me about it. Nay - tell FR about it... give us a report. We would all love it.

99 posted on 05/10/2009 1:23:06 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Old Sarge; All

“Just as sure as there is no god, conservatives will never unite under one banner again.”

Since there IS a God, and He is real, I am sure that we will unite once again.

Peace.


100 posted on 05/10/2009 1:26:34 PM PDT by TheRobb7 (If you are really conservative, you join the war – where it counts.)
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