Neo-Darwinian Theory Fails the Mutation Test

ICR ^ | March 27, 2009 | Brian Thomas, M.S.

[GodGunsGuts]

Neo-Darwinian Theory Fails the Mutation Test

by Brian Thomas, M.S.*

Darwin’s original conception of simple-to-complex evolution maintained that nature selected certain individuals with superior features, and in this way gradually, one tiny feature at a time, an entirely different creature could eventually form.

The source of new features or feature fragments for nature to select, however, eluded evolutionists for decades. To answer this, the Geological Society of America in 1941 formulated a new version of Darwinian evolution. They decided that genetic mutations should be considered the source of new information for nature to select, and thus the Neo-Darwinian Theory was born.

Since that time, however, science has revealed that mutations have fallen far short of the lofty accomplishments ascribed to them...

[GodGunsGuts]

==I’m Christian

LOL...you sure don’t act like one. I see no difference between your approach and misotheists like Richard Dawkins (except that he’s a tad less rude than you are). Other than that you sound just like him and the rest of his merry band of God-hating (r)evolutionary misfits.

[RFEngineer]

“And you guys fell for it. LOL!!! “

Yeah, it’s pretty funny how gullible science is. If only they had objective facts on their side, they wouldn’t be taken for such fools.

[RFEngineer]

“LOL...you sure don’t act like one.”

XYZ.....Your sanctimony is showing.

“except that he’s a tad less rude than you are”

Rude? surely your patent on that isn’t still pending, is it?

“you sound just like him and the rest of his merry band of God-hating (r)evolutionary misfits.”

Ah, so someone doesn’t agree with you, so they hate God? Sorry, Mr. Taliban man, that’s not the way I roll.

[GodGunsGuts]

==Yeah, it’s pretty funny how gullible science is. If only they had objective facts on their side, they wouldn’t be taken for such fools.

No kidding. For instance, here is Darwood's first published "tree of life." It comes from his book Origins. Now, I have been searching for the data behind those data points for years. And after all this time, wouldn't you know it, I can't find the data that substantiates Darwood's "tree of life" anywhere. It's nowhere to be found in his long argument...err...I mean science book. Peraps the data just got misplaced? Perhaps the original data is kept in a super-secret compartment deep within the bowels of the Temple of Darwin! Please help me find the missing data, RFE. After all, Darwood was a great scientist, so he wouldn't publish his Godless theory without data, now would he???

[GodGunsGuts]

What are you talking about? I have not once pointed out how hypocritical it is for you (of all people!) to call creationists retards. Nor did I point out how silly it is to say you believe in God and then turn around and mock HIS HOLY WORD. Indeed, given all the things I could have said, I have been the picture of civility.

[RFEngineer]

“Please help me find the missing data, RFE. After all, Darwood was a great scientist, so he wouldn’t publish his Godless theory without data, now would he???”

So now I finally get it: You try to refute evolution without data because you think that the theory of evolution has no data.

I’ve got no specific opinion on Darwin himself. Just his theories are of interest, which have been revised and extended since then - as you have, no doubt noticed.

[RFEngineer]

“call creationists retards”

I’m not calling ALL creationists retards, just you, and your fawning band of creatards on this board.

I know plenty of reasonable creationists. They know that science and faith are different things.

“Indeed, given all the things I could have said, I have been the picture of civility.”

Why ya holding back? That’s half the fun of arguing unprovable things.

“Nor did I point out how silly it is to say you believe in God and then turn around and mock HIS HOLY WORD. “

Your extrapolation is worthy of a true Darwinist! Sure you aren’t a closet evo?

[GodGunsGuts]

Oh, I see, you don’t know what became of the missing data either. Oh my. You don’t suppose the entire Evo science community could have fallen for a theory published by a non-scientist/med-school dropout turned amateur naturalist with no data to substantiate it do you?

And speaking of data. You seem to be quite confident there are data that support Darwood’s dataless theory of evolution. What data would that be exactly?

[GodGunsGuts]

==I’m not calling ALL creationists retards, just you

Watch out for falling glass! LOL

==I know plenty of reasonable creationists.

Are they well known creationists? Care to name them?

[RFEngineer]

“and speaking of data. You seem to be quite confident there are data that support Darwood’s dataless theory of evolution. What data would that be exactly?”

I’m just here for the argument. It’s much cheaper than the full half-hour.

[RFEngineer]

“Are they well known creationists? Care to name them?”

Certainly not as well known as Mr. Brian Thomas, M.S.

[GodGunsGuts]

Oh I see. So there’s no data all around, and yet the Darwiniacs will defend Darwood’s fanciful creation myth to their last breath. And they wonder why creationists refer to their special brand of “science” as the Temple of Darwin! LOL

[GodGunsGuts]

At least Brian Thomas is an actual scientist...unlike Darwood.

[RFEngineer]

“So there’s no data all around”

Of course not. Science has no data. It’s just flat-earth flights of fancy and moon-landing fakery.

We just prefer the life of a heretic. It’s easier than talking smack about Darwin all the time.

[RFEngineer]

“At least Brian Thomas is an actual scientist”

Who’s “Brian Thomas”? is he related to “Brian Thomas, M.S.”?

[GodGunsGuts]

==Who’s “Brian Thomas”? is he related to “Brian Thomas, M.S.”?

Brian Thomas earned his Master of Science in Biotechnology from Stephen F. Austin State University, TX, in December of 1999. He taught Principles of Biology I and II, and General Chemistry I at Navarro College in Waxahachie, TX from 2003-2005. He also taught Undergraduate Biology, Chemistry, Microbiology and Anatomy Lab at Dallas Baptist University from 2005-2008. Here is his thesis paper:

http://devo.sfasu.edu/ipac20/ipac.jsp?session=U2Y6729B43491.129567&profile=sfa&source=~!marquis&view=subscriptionsummary&uri=full=3100001~!846125~!0&ri=1&aspect=basic_search&menu=search&ipp=20&spp=20&staffonly=&term=preparation+of+ligands&index=.GW&uindex=&aspect=basic_search&menu=search&ri=1#focus

[RFEngineer]

I already knew he was a lightweight from his work, did you have to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt by publishing his bio?

Brian Thomas, M.S. is not someone to which you should be pointing to as leading the “science is wrong” charge.

Now send me someone with game. Surely you can do better than this? Start with folks who are a little more academically accomplished - Something Brian Thomas M.S. certainly recognizes is a weakness of his (or there’d be no “M.S.” after his name)

[Cedric]

You are obviously suffering under the childish self-delusion that everyone else does not see through your insecurity-driven need to demean the credentials of each and every “lightweight” who shakes the crumbling foundations of your beliefs.

[RFEngineer]

“You are obviously suffering under the childish self-delusion that everyone else does not see through your insecurity-driven need to demean the credentials of each and every “lightweight” who shakes the crumbling foundations of your beliefs.”

Or it could be that Mr. Brian Thomas, M.S. is a lightweight.

The foundations of science are not crumbling. They are not the same as the foundations of faith - those are separate things.

You folks keep trying to make them the same thing - and I don’t mind observing that your childish intransigence in that regard is something your psychoanalysts would be able to diagnose better than I.

[oldmanreedy]

"Brian Thomas earned his Master of Science in Biotechnology from

Stephen F. Austin State University,

TX, in December of 1999. He taught Principles of Biology I and II, and General Chemistry I at Navarro College in Waxahachie, TX from 2003-2005..."

Oh snap son! Don't you mess with Brian Thomas M.S., he went to STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN UNIVERSITY.

Evolution is crap 'cause STONE COLD Brian Thomas M.S. sez so!

P.S. GodGunsGuts are you Brian Thomas M.S.? You've got a weird affection for him.