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Feinstein: Don't Spoil Our Desert With Solar Panels
FoxNews.com ^ | Saturday, March 21, 2009

Posted on 03/21/2009 9:27:50 AM PDT by Joiseydude

WASHINGTON -- California's Mojave Desert may seem ideally suited for solar energy production, but concern over what several proposed projects might do to the aesthetics of the region and its tortoise population is setting up a potential clash between conservationists and companies seeking to develop renewable energy.

Feinstein said Friday she intends to push legislation that would turn the land into a national monument, which would allow for existing uses to continue while preventing future development.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhoenergy; brightsource; calenergy; desert; energy; feinstein; greens; hypocrite; liberal; modernliberal; mojave; mojavedesert; nationalmonument; solar; solarpower
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To: marron

If Navy can power submarine with nuclear (oops, nukelar) reactor, why can’t we have one running in the basement of the town hall and power the local community???
The off peak loads can be taken care of by recharging electric cars and toys plus charging up home backup battery banks. Also some are using lake accumulators, by pumping the water up during the low load and then using it at peaks to run turbines.
The peaks to be taken care of conventional power plants by firing them up as needed.
Time to get rid of stooopids in the government, replace layers lawyers with engineers and common sense folks.
Go Glen!!!! 9/12


81 posted on 03/21/2009 10:41:31 AM PDT by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee-ssed!)
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To: marron

Electricity from wind has grown to 4 times what it was just a few years ago! To 0.4% of the electricity generated in the US. Wow! That’s HUGE!/s


82 posted on 03/21/2009 10:42:11 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Polynikes

Seeing that Feinstein is senator, she should be arrested for felony stupidity.


83 posted on 03/21/2009 10:42:30 AM PDT by Zman (Liberals: denying reality since Day One.)
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To: ansel12
I'm glad this discussion has started among the left, nuclear is an option that we can construct in attractive architecture closer to already urban areas, we shouldn't spoil our outdoors.

The problem with this argument is that Obama has already taken nuclear off the table by stopping work on Yucca Mountain. Oh, and he had previously canceled Bush's late-term order to drill for more oil. This leaves us with nothing but wind and solar. If we don't allow these to be built, we will be left with no new energy sources at all>/b>.

84 posted on 03/21/2009 10:43:31 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: Joiseydude

“The greenies want renewable energy...”

No, they don’t want ‘renewable energy’. They want less engergy. It’s the only thing that will satisfy their demands. Their idea of energy independence is the reduction of energy demand to a level that can be satisfied by muscle power.


85 posted on 03/21/2009 10:44:14 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: lainie
What....?

Adelanto is a garden spot....you should see Johnson Valley...that is east of Lucerne Valley which is east of Victorville....

Somebody is out there:

JOHNSON VALLEY REAL ESTATE

86 posted on 03/21/2009 10:46:40 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (What happened to my IRAs)
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To: Joiseydude

“nuclear or any other source built in their backyards.”

Or doesn’t actually work.

While there are new enviro caps on emmisiions in my state they recently instituted a statewide ban on continued developement of wind and solar for commercial usage ~ until more research is available ~ this is good news for alternative energies, in that the stuff might actually be working, therefore outlawed by the left.


87 posted on 03/21/2009 10:48:18 AM PDT by incredulous joe ("Damn the torpedoes!" ~ Admiral Farragut)
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To: All; lainie
They have a website....:


88 posted on 03/21/2009 10:49:31 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (What happened to my IRAs)
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To: EEDUDE

I know ~ you can’t make this stuff up.

What’s next, “Don’t spoil our impoverished middle-class with industry and enterprise!”


89 posted on 03/21/2009 10:50:02 AM PDT by incredulous joe ("Damn the torpedoes!" ~ Admiral Farragut)
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To: drbuzzard
olar and wind are both extremely temperamental power sources. They cannot guarantee peak performance when you need it, and storage options are extremely limited for any power they do produce.

Though fluctuating energy sources don't belong on the grid, there are uses for which they can be matched. Examples: charging electric vehicles, desalinating seawater for coastal cities, and the oldest use for windmills, pumping water.

90 posted on 03/21/2009 10:51:13 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: livius
You miss the point. DiFi is saying even solar is unacceptable. If we can't build solar and wind in the desert where then? The aim of the greenies is no energy what so ever. They never thought that solar and wind would get to the point of being implemented(not that it would solve anything)and now that it looks like huge solar and wind projects are about to take off, they are now saying that wind and solar are not environmentally acceptable. This is what DiFi's statement is about. The whole idea is to turn us into a third world hell hole and people had better wake up soon or we will all be living in the dark, with no heat, no cooling and no light. Not only that we cannot legally use wood or coal to cook with and probably very soon, not even natural gas. It is all about making us so weak from hunger and other attacks on our systems that we can't resist there take over.

Don't believe it? Wait and see.

91 posted on 03/21/2009 10:52:48 AM PDT by calex59
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Whoops...the link:

Click here

92 posted on 03/21/2009 10:54:03 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (What happened to my IRAs)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

HYDRO-ELECTIC....Is that something new??? Yes, for use at polling places with large number of conservatives. It's a wet form of dialectic.

93 posted on 03/21/2009 10:54:57 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
ugggggggghhhh

Out in the hinterlands of the AV, a goodly portion of the lots are owned by overseas businessmen, mostly Japanese we think. My neighbor told me he tried to find out some of their names once, and it was so convoluted he gave up. He thinks many of them were sold on "it's only 70 miles north of Los Angeles!" and they'd never actually seen what they were buying. Who knows what they paid for them.

94 posted on 03/21/2009 10:56:10 AM PDT by lainie (The US congress is full to the brim of absolutely disgusting thieves who deserve humiliating ouster.)
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To: All

I can’t really rest easy until I know what Sir Al Bore thinks of all of this.


95 posted on 03/21/2009 10:57:25 AM PDT by lainie (The US congress is full to the brim of absolutely disgusting thieves who deserve humiliating ouster.)
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To: calex59

Oh, I agree, that’s their aim. There was a book published fairly recently - I don’t recall the exact name and I haven’t read it, but it was something to the effect of “The End of Man” - that revels in the idea of the extinction of human beings. And we’re supposed to do it voluntarily, shutting off the lights, pitching our car keys into the lake, seeking out a cave somewhere, and dying while the baboons and predators howl around us.

My words to them: s*rew you.


96 posted on 03/21/2009 10:58:24 AM PDT by livius
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To: ansel12
You're too generous with the photo you've selected of a wind farm. Try this:

...or this...

Lovely, huh?

97 posted on 03/21/2009 10:58:34 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: Leo Carpathian

You make two good points, one is that nuclear plants don’t have to be mega plants, they can be smaller for a more distributed network. Mega plants have their advantages, the economies of scale, but more smaller plants have an advantage in that a high-line down or a plant down isn’t the disaster it is when you have all your eggs in a very few baskets.

And that once we go to electric cars, that will even out some of our peak load issues, since people would be charging their cars during otherwise off-peak times.


98 posted on 03/21/2009 11:02:58 AM PDT by marron
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To: marron

Small nukes for desalinization of ocean water, with the nukes mounted in the ocean. Using existing nuke submarine technology would make great sense but we are still waiting for our stupid a**ed politicians to even suggest this. We could also produce small amounts of electricity with these submarine nukes.


99 posted on 03/21/2009 11:09:37 AM PDT by calex59
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To: AntiKev

If you can store energy from windmills, you can store energy from nuclear plants too.


100 posted on 03/21/2009 11:21:00 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim
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