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What the heck is this???
Gov track us ^ | 3-18-09 | us govt

Posted on 03/20/2009 2:44:05 PM PDT by rang1995

what is this????????????? passed as an admenment on HR 1388

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: 111th; 13thamendment; bho44; citizenlobbying; congress; democratcongress; freedomofassembly; freespeech; georgemiller; give; giveact; housebillhr1388; hr1388; miller; obama; protests; serve; serveamerica; service; tyranny; unions
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To: rang1995

Here is the text of the amendment:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?r111:1:./temp/~r111y7XdG1:e117872:

Looks like it’s intended to prohibit these organizations from engaging in political activity.


21 posted on 03/20/2009 2:54:32 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: rang1995

With this being an amendment to the GIVE act, perhaps it only applies to organizations administering those programs (of involuntary servitude and indoctrination.) If that is the case, I would prefer that they not be organizing to influence legislation.


22 posted on 03/20/2009 2:55:57 PM PDT by aberaussie
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To: rang1995

What about the right to peaceably assemble and the right to free speech? Don’t these people know anything about the Constitution?????


23 posted on 03/20/2009 2:57:17 PM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: Brilliant

Thanks that cleared it up.

Prohibited Activities.—A participant in an approved national service position under this subtitle may not engage in the following activities:

``(1) Attempting to influence legislation.

``(2) Organizing or engaging in protests, petitions, boycotts, or strikes.

``(3) Assisting, promoting, or deterring union organizing.

``(4) Impairing existing contracts for services or collective bargaining agreements.

``(5) Engaging in partisan political activities, or other activities designed to influence the outcome of an election to any public office.

``(6) Participating in, or endorsing, events or activities that are likely to include advocacy for or against political parties, political platforms, political candidates, proposed legislation, or elected officials.

``(7) Engaging in religious instruction, conducting worship services, providing instruction as part of a program that includes mandatory religious instruction or worship, constructing or operating facilities devoted to religious instruction or worship, maintaining facilities primarily or inherently devoted to religious instruction or worship, or engaging in any form of religious proselytization.


24 posted on 03/20/2009 2:57:39 PM PDT by boxerblues (Party like its 1773)
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To: rang1995

BTTT


25 posted on 03/20/2009 2:58:39 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: ElayneJ

See the link in post 21, it refers to those who are in the in an approved “national service position”.

Dont join his brownshirts and you can still give em hell


26 posted on 03/20/2009 2:59:50 PM PDT by boxerblues (Party like its 1773)
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To: ElayneJ

Our constitution, system of free enterprise and right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is under attack.

there wont be a Civil war unless the opposition starts one. In the absence of that, the current administration will continue to attack our core values.


27 posted on 03/20/2009 3:00:23 PM PDT by Canedawg (Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, or of the preah, he's fiddlin' alright..)
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To: rang1995

UNCONSTITUTIONAL...

Thats what it is. But who’s counting America is dying, nobody is outraged at anything. The President rapes the Special Olympics special needs people and the crowd continues to ooh and ahh...

People are actually defending him about this....

My advice... arm yourself for the coming collapse.


28 posted on 03/20/2009 3:01:21 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Obama Legacy: The President that put the USA on Welfare.)
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To: boxerblues
``(7) Engaging in religious instruction, conducting worship services, providing instruction as part of a program that includes mandatory religious instruction or worship, constructing or operating facilities devoted to religious instruction or worship, maintaining facilities primarily or inherently devoted to religious instruction or worship, or engaging in any form of religious proselytization.

Zero-worship is not included...

29 posted on 03/20/2009 3:03:19 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: boxerblues
national service position

Does this mean that Obamas thug civilian defense force can't become political?

Obama's first veto?

30 posted on 03/20/2009 3:04:50 PM PDT by MaxMax (RINO=RAT!)
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To: boxerblues

LOL who is going to police that>>>> First of all how can you check a persons political affiliation and how they will act in leadership positions with regard to this Illegal and Uncontitutional army of volunteers?


31 posted on 03/20/2009 3:05:56 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Obama Legacy: The President that put the USA on Welfare.)
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To: rfp1234

Actually this could be backfire on Acorn

5) Engaging in partisan political activities, or other activities designed to influence the outcome of an election to any public office.

6) Participating in, or endorsing, events or activities that are likely to include advocacy for or against political parties, political platforms, political candidates, proposed legislation, or elected officials


32 posted on 03/20/2009 3:06:31 PM PDT by boxerblues (Party like its 1773)
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To: boxerblues
A participant in an approved national service position under this subtitle may not engage in the following activities:

Yeahbut, "...may not engage in the following activities..." WHEN? During periods of service only?

Also, this whole unconstitutional scheme steals time from services people DO want to perform, and ARE performing now, and diverts that time into oxymoronic [more likely just moronic] "mandated volunteer" services they may NOT want to perform, and WILL NOT perform.

33 posted on 03/20/2009 3:06:56 PM PDT by HKMk23 (forget hope. got change?)
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To: HKMk23

It will be up to us to police them, Acorn in particular. Photos and video of illegal activity throw all there ass’s in jail


34 posted on 03/20/2009 3:09:06 PM PDT by boxerblues (Party like its 1773)
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To: rang1995

HR 1388 doesn’t look too hot either.

Paid “volunteers”.

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/100xx/doc10027/hr1388.pdf


35 posted on 03/20/2009 3:12:36 PM PDT by angkor
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To: rang1995

DOA - it looks like it has plenty of 1st Amendment problems.


36 posted on 03/20/2009 3:14:59 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: rang1995
It would be GREAT if this prohibited ACORN from vote fraud, unionizing, political partisan census-taking, etc.

Yawn.....ain't gonna happen.....they're "non-partisan" community organizers (non-partisan like PBS, NPR, MSM, etc.)

37 posted on 03/20/2009 3:15:38 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gots to worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gots to buy no gas...Obama take care o' me!")
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To: HKMk23
If people are forced into service, they lose the right to political action.
This could be used along with the census to target red states during elections.

I would like to see the penalties that go along with this BS.
And who will enforce it, Civilian Defense Force? I'll bring my baseball bat.

Communism here we come.

38 posted on 03/20/2009 3:17:00 PM PDT by MaxMax (RINO=RAT!)
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To: opaque soul
I bet Obama is setting up construction on those gulags he's building for us.
39 posted on 03/20/2009 3:18:44 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts ("Hey Liberals.. We don't lower our standards, so up yours!" - Andrew Wilkow show)
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To: rang1995

I just tracked it down on http://thomas.loc.gov.

Actually it prohibits the “national service volunteers” from participating in those activities.

``SEC. 125. PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES AND INELIGIBLE ORGANIZATIONS.

``(a) Prohibited Activities.—A participant in an approved national service position under this subtitle may not engage in the following activities:

``(1) Attempting to influence legislation.

``(2) Organizing or engaging in protests, petitions, boycotts, or strikes.


40 posted on 03/20/2009 3:19:01 PM PDT by angkor
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