Posted on 03/05/2009 4:03:57 PM PST by AJ in NYC
A federal judge on Thursday threw out a lawsuit questioning President Barack Obama's citizenship, lambasting the case as a waste of the court's time and suggesting the plaintiff's attorney may have to compensate the president's lawyer. In an argument popular on the Internet and taken seriously practically nowhere else, Obama's critics argue he is ineligible to be president because he is not a "natural-born citizen" as the Constitution requires. In response last summer, Obama's campaign posted his Hawaiian birth certificate on its Web site. But the lawsuit argues it is a fake and that Obama was actually born in his father's homeland of Kenya, even though Hawaiian officials have said the document is authentic. "This case, if it were allowed to proceed, would deserve mention in one of those books that seek to prove that the law is foolish or that America has too many lawyers with not enough to do," U.S. District Judge James Robertson said in his written opinion. The lawsuit didn't even use Obama's legal name but called him "Barry Soetoro," the name he went by while attending elementary school in Indonesia. It's one of many that has been filed claiming Obama is ineligible to serve as president. Robertson ordered plaintiff's attorney John Hemenway of Colorado Springs, Colo., to show why he hasn't violated court rules barring frivolous and harassing cases and shouldn't have to pay Obama's attorney, Bob Bauer, for his time arguing that the case should be thrown out.
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There are many ways to claim citizenship.
However, all can be divided into two categories:
Born in the United States
OR
Processed after birth, through Naturalization or adoption or other legal process.
Jindal was a United States Citizen from the moment of birth.
That is the very definition of “Natural Born Citizen”.
No Constitutional authority, that you can name, thinks otherwise. Jindal is FULLY qualified to be President.
not surprising...unbelievable how our country is being hijacked by these raging left loons...
This information has been posted many times on the BC threads. The founding Fathers made these rules for those that followed them, in time.
They never wanted 'government' to go this far. In fact, the patriots prevented what is happening now, from happening, then.
Look around on the threads a bit more, if you are curious.
Wait.... polity?
I am officially too tired. Nite.
Defending teh Constitution is not a waste of time. Men died for that which you think should not be defended. His father was a Kenyan. He is not eligible.
He’s spewing the same talking points as a noob on another thread. Must be today’s memo.
I guess dumb ugly bitches get hired over at the AP (as long as they are red enough) no matter how laughable their minor league propaganda is.
Used to be you had to kind of disguise the bias in the body of the piece, not proclaim it in the second sentence.
Amateur hour, she must be carpet munching that beast Kathleen Carroll
No sarcasm, just the truth. You signed up today to dissuade those who seek this fraud of a President’s legitimate BC. Go ahead, rally the troops to elect the best conservatives to office, but why does pursuing this legitimate issue bother you? You aren’t invested (obviously)leave it to those of us who wonder why the ONE will not produce such a simple document.
No fear... I have not blocked any comments you have sought to post, so I don’t quite understand your comments regarding that.
[From 1972 until 1994] James Robertson returned to private practice with Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering, [who donated $29,829 to Democratic candidates in 2008] and where he practiced until his appointment to the federal bench. While in private practice, he served as president of the District of Columbia Bar, co-chair of the Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law.
This Lawyers’ Committee has as its major objective to use the skills and resources of the bar to obtain equal opportunity for minorities by addressing factors that contribute to racial justice and economic opportunity. Given our nation's history of racial discrimination, de jure segregation, and the de facto inequities that persist, the Lawyers' Committee's primary focus is to represent the interest of African Americans in particular, other racial and ethnic minorities, and other victims of discrimination, where doing so can help to secure justice for all racial and ethnic minorities.
Or, in other words, an organization perfectly matching Obama's agendas.
[Robertson] was President of Southern Africa Legal Services and Legal Education Project, Inc.
Wilmerhale Llp -- $119,245 donation to Obama!
Wilmerhale Llpis the 18th largest law firm in the world. It led the founding of the Southern Africa Legal Services and Legal Education Project, to aid South African lawyers who fought to implement the rule of law during apartheid that later turned South Africa over to communist rule.
Judge Robertson resigned from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, sending a letter to United States Chief Justice John G. Roberts announcing his resignation with no explanation. The Washington Post reported the resignation was related to the Bush administration's surveillance of international communications and phone calls sent or received in the United States, without judicial warrants.
Lovely little bio on Judge Robertson.
James Robertson needs to be bitch slapped. What a f****** moron.
“Hes spewing the same talking points as a noob on another thread. Must be todays memo.”
This coming from someone whose only talking point seems to be “lol, ure a newb, shutup”.
Quite the convincing argument, I must say. </sarcasm>
But, to fortify my point, I’ll also point out the fact that my argument is also more pertinent in light of what has transpired so far—each of these cases has been dismissed. Judges are unwilling to take cases of this nature, and the evidence, while nothing to scoff at, is also not strong enough to warrant a subpoena. It is enough to arouse suspicion, but you need more than suspicion to get a subpoena; and Obummer appears to be ever-obstinate in his refusal to provide the BC.
Whereas, were we to funnel our resources into a strategy focused on legislation, in a future election—perhaps even the next—we could prevent this all from happening again, and maybe (and that’s a big maybe) get Obama to show us his BC, if we can avoid a grandfather clause.
You pick: waste time on court cases that have gone and will go nowhere, or take that time and use it to pursue a pragmatic strategy that is much more likely to achieve results. A judge is not subject to the pressures of public opinion; a democratically elected lawmaker is.
That's one you don't have to worry about. Babies born here whose parents are foreign diplomats aren't considered citizens of the US. I'm not a lawyer, but my understanding is that foreign diplomats are not "under the jurisdiction of the US" and therefore do not confer citizenship.
“I have been living an illusion my whole life.”
“THEY” found out that Americans are FOOLS that will believe anything they are told. The best example I know of:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8_kIDP4EQ0
Think the biggest mystery in history couldn’t be THIS EASY? This is what a corrupt government can do to the truth.
Your opinion is clear, that's what I don't accept. There are two classes of citizenship mentioned in the Constitution - natural born and naturalized. If you aren't one then you're the other. U.S. law has stated, and the Supreme Court has upheld, that if you are born in the U.S. you are a natural born citizen regardless of the nationality of your parents. And under certain circumstances if you are born overseas then you are also a natural born citizen. That that's it.
Naw! I never would have imagined this guy was a Clinton appointee!
If they were not naturalized by the time Jindal was born, then he is not eligible either.
The crickets are deafening........
We’ve been hashing over the eligibility issue on these threads for months, reading books and articles as well, and some obfuscator shows up and tells us we need to get educated?? Ballsy.
It seems like they’re trotting out their junior varsity now. Clueless trolls. The usual ones have been taken to the woodshed too many times, or have been so annoying that they are now being ignored.
“I’m not sure that the law or the courts have yet provided a precise definition of ‘natural born’”
You are correct. We need such a judicial determination very badly but so far our courts have not had the onions to give us one.
I suggest that you don’t waste your time with “Logical Fallacy.” He knows the facts as well as any of us but chooses to obfuscate.
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