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150 Years Later, Fossils Still Don't Help Darwin
ICR ^ | March 4, 2009 | Brian Thomas, M.S.

Posted on 03/04/2009 7:16:11 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

150 Years Later, Fossils Still Don't Help Darwin

by Brian Thomas, M.S.*

“Creationists claim there are no transitional fossils, aka missing links. Biologists and paleontologists, among others, know this claim is false,” according to a recent LiveScience article that then describes what it claims are 12 specific transitional form fossils.1 But do these examples really confirm Darwinism?

Charles Darwin raised a lack of transitional fossils as a possible objection to his own theory: “Why, if species have descended from other species by fine gradations, do we not everywhere see innumerable transitional forms?”2 Later in this chapter of his landmark book, he expressed hope that future discoveries would be made of transitional forms, or of creatures that showed some transitional structure—perhaps a half-scale/half-feather.

Although some creationists do say that “there are no transitional fossils,” it would be more accurate to state that there are no undisputed transitional forms. Although the article asserts that the fossil record “is full of them,” the reality is that it does not contain a single universally accepted transitional form. Every transitional fossil candidate has both proponents and doubters even among evolutionary “biologists and paleontologists.”

The first supposed transitional form offered in the report is Sahelanthropus. This 2001 discovery was first hailed as a transitional form in the ape-to-human line, but controversy over its transitional status immediately ensued. Brigitte Senut of the Natural History Museum in Paris was skeptical, saying that its skull features, “especially the [canine teeth],”3 were characteristic of female gorillas, not human-like gorillas. Senut and her colleagues also disputed that Sahelanthropus was even in the ancestry of humans at all: “To represent a valid clade, hominids must share unique defining features, and Sahelanthropus does not appear to have been an obligate biped [creature that walked on two feet].”4 In other words, Sahelanthropus is at best a highly disputed fossil of an extinct ape, having no clear transitional features.

LiveScience also listed a medium-neck-length fossil giraffe named Bohlinia and the “walking manatee” as transitional forms. However, Bohlinia is just variation within what is still clearly the giraffe kind and doesn’t answer the question, “Where did the giraffe kind come from?” Such variations within kinds do not refute the creation concept, but rather are predicted by it.5 And the “walking manatee” walked because it had fully formed, ready-to-walk legs, hips, nerves, and musculature. The article does not mention that this particular fossil is shown elsewhere to be a dead-end species, “transitioning” to nothing, according to evolutionists.6

The LiveScience article, borrowing from geologist Donald Prothero, also claimed that Moeritherium is “the ultimate transitional fossil,” the ancestor of elephants. This was an amphibious mammal, shaped like a hippo, with a mobile, muscular lip fused with its nostril. But it had none of the real characteristics of an elephant—not the trunk, size, tusks, nor the specialized weight-bearing knee joint structure.7

The “classic fossil of Archaeopteryx” is not a transitional form either, but was fully bird. Its “reptile-like” teeth and wing claws are found in some birds today.8 Many reptiles have no teeth, but nobody claims that they evolved from birds. And the discovery of a “frog-amander” has yet to be agreed upon as transitional by evolutionists. John Bolt, a curator at the Field Museum in Chicago, told National Geographic that “it is difficult to say for sure whether this creature was itself a common ancestor of the two modern groups, given that there is only one known specimen of Gerobatrachus, and an incomplete one at that.”9

Other extinct creatures had “shared features,” physical structures that are found in different kinds of living organisms. However, “shared features” are not transitional features, which is what Darwin needed. There is no scientific evidence to refute the idea that shared features were designed into creatures by a Creator who wisely formed them with the equipment to live in various shared habitats.

Fossils do reveal some truth about Darwin’s theory—they reveal that the same inconsistencies he noted between his theory and the fossil data persist, even after 150 years of frantic searches for elusive transitions.10 Not only is there no single, undisputed transition, but real fossils reveal that animals were fully formed from the beginning.

References

  1. Lloyd, R. Fossils Reveal Truth About Darwin's Theory. LiveScience. Posted on Livescience.com February 11, 2009, accessed February 18, 2009.
  2. Darwin, C. 1902. On The Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection: or The Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life, 6th Edition. New York: P. F. Collier & Son. 233.
  3. Chalmers, J. Seven million-year-old skull 'just a female gorilla.' The Sun-Herald. Posted on smh.com.au July 14, 2002, accessed February 18, 2009.
  4. Wolpoff, M. H. et al. 2002. Palaeoanthropology (communication arising): Sahelanthropus or 'Sahelpithecus'? Nature. 419 (6907): 581-582.
  5. Gish, D. 1981. Summary of Scientific Evidence for Creation. Acts & Facts. 10 (5).
  6. Rose, K. D. and J. D. Archibald. 2005. The Rise of Placental Mammals: Origins and Relationships of the Major Extant Clades. Baltimore, MD: The Johns Hopkins University Press, 87.
  7. Weissengruber, G. E. et al. 2006. The elephant knee joint: morphological and biomechanical considerations. Journal of Anatomy. 208 (1): 59-72.
  8. Denton, M. 1986. Evolution: A Theory in Crisis. Bethesda, MD: Adler and Adler, 175, 176.
  9. Casselman, A. "Frog-amander" Fossil May Be Amphibian Missing Link. National Geographic News. Posted on news.nationalgeographic.com on May 21, 2008, accessed February 18. 2009.
  10. Gish, D. 1995. Evolution: The Fossils Still Say No! El Cajon, CA: Institute for Creation Research.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 150years; archaeopteryx; bohlinia; creation; darwin; evolution; fossilrecord; fossils; gerobatrachus; goodgodimnutz; intelligentdesign; nationalgeographic; of; origin; sahelanthropus; species; transitional
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To: metmom
"Only if one doesn’t believe that the Bible tells the real truth."I

So what does the bible say about heliocentrism?

21 posted on 03/04/2009 7:41:19 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Oztrich Boy
That's not undisputed, ergo it must be false

Oh? I think Kurt Gödel would have something to say about that.

22 posted on 03/04/2009 7:41:56 PM PST by AndrewC
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To: Buck W.

Your post clearly demonstrates that you don’t understand either.


23 posted on 03/04/2009 7:43:08 PM PST by Carl from Marietta
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To: GodGunsGuts

1. Flies developed wings
2. Birds like to eat flies.
3. Birds developed wings.

It’s as simple as that.


24 posted on 03/04/2009 7:44:08 PM PST by Paraclete
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To: Natural Law
"So what does the bible say about heliocentrism?"

Now you've done it! Here come the geocentrists! You can't prove that we're not at the center of the universe...

25 posted on 03/04/2009 7:44:14 PM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Wow, Brian Thomas, MS* has really outdone himself this time. It would take me a full night to explain how wrong almost every one of his sentences is. He is amazingly obtuse and full of crap.


26 posted on 03/04/2009 7:44:38 PM PST by whattajoke (.)
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To: Buck W.

“Evolution and Christianity are perfectly compatible.”

Only if you consider a marriage of the perfect truth and a perfect lie “perfectly compatible”.

But that’s just me...


27 posted on 03/04/2009 7:50:47 PM PST by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Welcome to the brave new world...)
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To: GodGunsGuts

They never have and never will.


28 posted on 03/04/2009 7:50:56 PM PST by ninergold3 ("Has it ever occurred to you that nothing occurs to God?" -Mark Lowry)
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To: Buck W.
"You can't prove that we're not at the center of the universe..."

The point I was trying to make is that faith trumps logic and science. The fact that the Genesis was an oral tradition in an ancient Hebrew dialect that lacked the capacity to express the yet to be discovered scientific concepts to explain the creation of man in anything other than abracadabra terms is lost on bible literalists.

29 posted on 03/04/2009 7:50:57 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Paraclete

Which came first?

The fly or the maggot?


30 posted on 03/04/2009 7:52:40 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: metmom

Our pastor has just started a study in the book of Genesis. He read, “In the beginning God created. . .” Then he looked at the congregation and said, “If you can’t wrap your head around this, then you are not going to understand the rest of the Bible.


31 posted on 03/04/2009 7:53:32 PM PST by ninergold3 ("Has it ever occurred to you that nothing occurs to God?" -Mark Lowry)
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To: ninergold3

The evidence certainly favors your conclusion. Indeed, the evidence for evolution gets worse by the day. How frustrating for them. Perhaps that is why the Evos are preparing the public to ditch Darwin in favor of a new God-denying evolutionary synthesis.


32 posted on 03/04/2009 7:53:37 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Natural Law; Buck W.

There is no center in an infinite universe.


33 posted on 03/04/2009 7:54:39 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Gordon Greene
The bible is allegorical and evolution is not perfectly true. Is that better?
34 posted on 03/04/2009 7:59:27 PM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Buck W.

Just like oil and water. Yup.


35 posted on 03/04/2009 7:59:38 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: ninergold3
"He read, “In the beginning God created. . .”

Did anyone then ask the good reverend if creation was specifically defined as an instantaneous, one-step process or if it left some room for debate?

36 posted on 03/04/2009 8:02:21 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Carl from Marietta

“Your post clearly demonstrates that you don’t understand either.”

No. I’m an educated, rational Christian. I understand both very well.


37 posted on 03/04/2009 8:03:19 PM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Natural Law

I understand—I was being sarcastic. I have made similar points to yours in other threads that have, in fact, brought geocentrism adherents to the discussion!


38 posted on 03/04/2009 8:06:15 PM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: ninergold3

Absolutely. And he used the process of evolution to get us here.


39 posted on 03/04/2009 8:08:42 PM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Natural Law; Buck W.

Actually, Copernicus was a heliocentrist, in the sense that he thought that the sun was close to the center of the Universe. It certainly gives a whole new twist to the badly misnamed Copernican Principle.


40 posted on 03/04/2009 8:09:26 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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