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A Moderate Manifesto (David Brooks: "Barack Obama is not who we thought he was")
New York Times ^ | March 2, 2009 | DAVID BROOKS

Posted on 03/03/2009 5:02:37 AM PST by publius1

You wouldn’t know it some days, but there are moderates in this country — moderate conservatives, moderate liberals, just plain moderates. We sympathize with a lot of the things that President Obama is trying to do. We like his investments in education and energy innovation. We support health care reform that expands coverage while reducing costs.

But the Obama budget is more than just the sum of its parts. There is, entailed in it, a promiscuous unwillingness to set priorities and accept trade-offs. There is evidence of a party swept up in its own revolutionary fervor — caught up in the self-flattering belief that history has called upon it to solve all problems at once.

So programs are piled on top of each other and we wind up with a gargantuan $3.6 trillion budget. We end up with deficits that, when considered realistically, are $1 trillion a year and stretch as far as the eye can see. We end up with an agenda that is unexceptional in its parts but that, when taken as a whole, represents a social-engineering experiment that is entirely new.

U.S. has never been a society riven by class resentment. Yet the Obama budget is predicated on a class divide. The president issued a read-my-lips pledge that no new burdens will fall on 95 percent of the American people. All the costs will be borne by the rich and all benefits redistributed downward....

The U.S. has traditionally had a relatively limited central government. But federal spending as a share of G.D.P. is zooming from its modern norm of 20 percent to an unacknowledged level somewhere far beyond.

Those of us who consider ourselves moderates — moderate-conservative, in my case — are forced to confront the reality that Barack Obama is not who we thought he was.

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To: publius1

“All the costs will be borne by the rich and all benefits redistributed downward....”

If for even a nanosecond you, Mr. Brooks, believed anything else of Obama, from the moment you first heard of thim to this, then you are a supreme ass.


81 posted on 03/03/2009 6:01:30 AM PST by TalBlack
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To: Canedawg
EVERY person who admits to any degree of buyer’s remorse, and questions what the Kenyan is doing, is a movement away from the Fraud and towards opposition, even when couched in language that doesnt embrace full-blown Conservatism.

Give me a break. We are not talking about political neophytes or innocents. These are "pundits" who decided that an Obama win was pretty much a sure thing and they wanted access to the new President. I don't buy their conversion for a minute. They knew who Obama was but it was in their personal interest to portray Obama as some kind of centrist.

we should be happy that some people out there are beginning to GET IT, to WHATEVER extent. It is easy to see why Cons are not going to win elections when they continue to chastise everyone else who doesnt see things just exactly as they do.

BS. We Cons always got it. Open and winner take all primaries made McCain the presumptive nominee of the party with 31% of the vote. What party nominates its Maverick as its standard bearer? "Moderates" like Brooks are the reason the GOP is in shambles. We have moved away from basis Rep principles in the illusory hope that we can win elections that way, i.e., become more like the Dems. There is no way I am going to embrace Brooks' conversion.

For those who have forgotten: the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

That doesn't work well in politics. If the KKK is against Obama, I still don't consider them my friend. We don't need friends like Brooks.

82 posted on 03/03/2009 6:03:07 AM PST by kabar
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To: publius1

“U.S. has never been a society riven by class resentment.”

The rich socialist of this country (Dumbocrats like Soros et al.) have always resented that the public has the power in this country. They want Dacha’s on the Black Sea and us living as surfs in huts.

Those of us in New Orleans have observed this fact for quite a while, black Mayors, white Democratic Senators and black preachers prefer black waiters and bus boys to Black engineers. The black engineers are not reliable voters for benefit. They don’t want to help they want to be dictators.


83 posted on 03/03/2009 6:03:41 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (I'm studying Voodoo...curses cast daily. Landrieu be gone to the devil...)
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To: publius1

It took him this long to figure that out? I knew he was a thug the first time I saw his face.


84 posted on 03/03/2009 6:05:21 AM PST by Piquaboy
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To: publius1
Dems have always been control freaks -

they want force their great wisdom on the rest of us -

for our own good. Except it's so easy to abuse power - and kinda fun to hand out favors

(to the chosen and to punish others.)

And before long...

it's re-education camps...

85 posted on 03/03/2009 6:06:02 AM PST by GOPJ (People who can't use the new WH phone system are trying to redesign half the US economy - Brooks)
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To: publius1
Dems have always been control freaks -

they want to force their great wisdom on the rest of us -

for our own good. Except it's so easy to abuse power - and kinda fun to hand out favors

(to the chosen and to punish others.)

And before long...

it's re-education camps...

86 posted on 03/03/2009 6:06:44 AM PST by GOPJ (People who can't use the new WH phone system are trying to redesign half the US economy - Brooks)
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To: Canedawg
As long as Conservatives continue to mock and disparage EVERYONE’s epiphanies that Zero is counter-productive to the country’s best interests, we will continue to sink in quicksand. EVERY person who admits to any degree of buyer’s remorse, and questions what the Kenyan is doing, is a movement away from the Fraud and towards opposition, even when couched in language that doesnt embrace full-blown Conservatism.

Not telling the truth is not helping them or our current meltdown.

We are in this situation because of them, not in-spite of them.

87 posted on 03/03/2009 6:08:42 AM PST by sausageseller (http://coolblue.typepad.com/the_cool_blue_blog/)
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To: Canedawg

Good Point, “I told you so” isnt what is needed. Just be glad they get it now!! I hear alot of buyers remorse, ALOT. Im just wondering where this will all lead.


88 posted on 03/03/2009 6:15:26 AM PST by GoCards
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To: mewzilla
A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice.

That is a classic quote from the famously immoderate Thomas Paine, and I mean that in a good way.

Another relevant quote on the subject comes from Barry Goldwater:

"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."

Or, perhaps, you'd prefer my own definition:

A "moderate" is one who makes of fetish of even-handedness in order to evade the responsibility of judgment.

89 posted on 03/03/2009 6:25:25 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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To: publius1
""Barack Obama is not who we thought he was."

That's because you're not a thinker, David.

You're a gullible, emotion-driven New York Times hack, lacking in curiousity or research skills.

90 posted on 03/03/2009 6:28:37 AM PST by cookcounty ("Think, Schumer! It's plain as the egg on your face!")
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To: publius1
Barack Obama is not who we thought he was.

Another revelation from ...


91 posted on 03/03/2009 6:31:37 AM PST by Marauder (Politicians use words the way squids use ink.)
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To: publius1

I’m getting to where I loathe and despise moderates more than commie liberals. At least commie liberals have a set of principles they will stand up and support, even tho it’s evil. The moderate is a spineless, milquetoast, good for nothing that stands for nothing and is good for nothing but to be used by the two opposing forces of conservatism and commie liberalism as cannon fodder. They deserve to be the first casualties in the war of politics.


92 posted on 03/03/2009 6:38:42 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Economists predicting a quick recovery are like the band that continued playing on the Titanic.)
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To: publius1

One can only hope that Mr. Brooks and his family are among the worst hit by The Kenyan Entity.


93 posted on 03/03/2009 6:41:50 AM PST by pabianice
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To: wtc911

He is not who you want him to be, Brooks. Moderates must be very uncomfortable with absolute truth or foundational beliefs on either side. If you stand in the middle of the road, you will get run over. Thanks, useful idiot.


94 posted on 03/03/2009 6:43:18 AM PST by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: publius1
It makes one want to grab Brooks by the lapels, shake him and say "You stupid F*ck! We told you EXACTLY who that Marxist Son-of-a-B*tch was, and YOU were too busy trying to get invited to cocktail parties in Washington and New York to listen, B*tt Boy!"
95 posted on 03/03/2009 6:49:01 AM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: pabianice
Psalm 141:9-10
96 posted on 03/03/2009 6:50:28 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: publius1

Why would anybody have ever thought that Barack Obama was a moderate? His background would indicate that he is a radical. His rhetoric was certainly radical. His policy promises, in as much as he made any, were all radical.

People believed about Obama what they wanted to believe. The ones who wanted him to be a radical have been rewarded. The ones who imagined that he was a moderate have been bitterly disappointed.

Of course, they have only themselves to blame.


97 posted on 03/03/2009 7:01:18 AM PST by gridlock (BTW, Mods... It might be time to add "Barack" and "Obama" to spellcheck)
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To: Graybeard58

Anyone who isn’t a socialist who would trust Obama to give us “health care reform that expands coverage while reducing costs” is just plain stupid.

David Brooks, you’re stupid.


98 posted on 03/03/2009 7:02:15 AM PST by carola
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To: publius1

David just realized that some of the wealth Obama promised to spread around is going to be his.


99 posted on 03/03/2009 7:04:30 AM PST by kevao
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To: Canedawg

Amongst ourselves, I call these moderates idiots and mock them when they finally see the truth.

But, rest assured, when one comes to me in conversation, I am gentle, welcoming, and try to bring them on board. They are feeling foolish enough on their own, without me piling on.


100 posted on 03/03/2009 7:05:35 AM PST by gridlock (BTW, Mods... It might be time to add "Barack" and "Obama" to spellcheck)
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