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True Definition of Natural Born Citizen
Townhall ^ | March 1, 2009 | Glenn Flowers

Posted on 03/01/2009 4:35:14 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: longtermmemmory

Thanks for the clarification. I knew that the “anchor baby” could claim citizenship immediately, and that his status won’t stop his parents from being deported (and him with his parents). However, I thought that at 18, when the “anchor baby” has the right to return to the U.S., he could immediately bring his parents in; I’m glad to hear that that is no longer the case, and that he has to live in the U.S. for 10 years before he can apply to have his parents become U.S. residents.

You’re right that I assumed that the pre-1996 rules were in effect; I had a friend in college that was a U.S. citizen by virtue of having been born in the U.S. when his parents were in college (his parents had student visas), and he was filling out the paper work to bring his parents over. It was back in Fall 1993 or Spring 1994, before the 1994 elections brought the GOP into power, and I guess he was lucky he got all that done before the law changed.


101 posted on 03/02/2009 6:29:13 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: MHGinTN

“I fully understand why you don’t want to address an issue you have turned upside down (anchorbabies). I do hope you will read longtermmemory’s post to you, phantom.”


If you read my post, you’ll find that I did address the “anchor baby” issue. And I not only read longtermmemory’s post, but I replied to him, thanking him for his clarification.

Being from Tennessee, I would think they’d have taught you better manners.


102 posted on 03/02/2009 6:32:14 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

We in the South reserve our best manners for those who deserve them. You fail


103 posted on 03/02/2009 7:03:36 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Yawn.


104 posted on 03/02/2009 7:36:38 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: MHGinTN
He is ineligible from the beginning, meaning he is NOT the president and can be removed from office without any impeachment or trial, it requires only a ruling by the SCOTUS.

So has there been a time of getting folks used to the issue (giving it legs) and then bringing them to some further realization?
Sounds like it to me. No wonder so many are now trying so vociferously to shoot it down.

105 posted on 03/03/2009 12:00:56 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
At first I gave the government the benefit of the doubt on that, thinking they were trying to let the man get elected and sworn in even though it was known he was ineligible and a disgrace, in order to give the nation time to adjust to the reality of his ineligibility and avoid the inevitable riot generation by the agitprop domestic terrorists euphemistically called democrat constituencies.

Now, after ramming through a porkulus which threatens the very solvency of the nation, I am convinced the Democrats saw this as their greatest opportunity to end the Constitutional Republic and slide in a full socialist oligarchy fashioned to look like what it never can be, a real representative government.

We The People were the failing sovereigns of this Constitutional Republic so long as the Constitutional contract was not completely abrogated. Oh, to be sure, things like the Federal Reserve and the IRS, etc. have been abrogations of the terms of the contract. But with the advent of this Kenyan Klown and his posse, We The People have been pissed upon by the abrogation of our Constitutional contract by Congressional branch of the dying Republic (Congressional agents purposely failed to vett this bastard and signed documents claiming he was eligible when they had not substantiated that, and the Speaker of the HOuse in joint session in January '09 prevented any challenge to the receiving of the electoral votes) AND ignored by the Judicial branch of the Fed by refusing to use common sense and allow We The People to challenge and demand the minimum proof of this Kenyan bastard's eligibility to be sworn in.

The demonic game has been to play exceptions, such as do not allow objections to arise in joint session, and 'failure to have standing' in the federal judiciary to demand the candidate prove he is eligible to be on the ballot, much less be sworn in TWICE by a pinkneyed little twerp playing chief justice of a subpreme court.

The federal oligarchy isn't biuding their time before exposing the freaud, they have embraced the affirmative action fraud like the Quislings they are!

They federal employees have ended the Constitutional Contract and established the rule of federal oligarchy. All that remains is the further consolidation of their control via raising taxes to punitive levels and establishing a police-state domestic army to enforce their orders upon the sheeple who allowed themselves to be usurped via vote fraud and inattention to their sovereign's responsibilities in electing honest representation.

When 95% of a race votes for a candidate because of his race regardless of his political persuasions, We The People we assassinated by fellow voters.

106 posted on 03/03/2009 7:19:26 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Polybius
It is the substance of the affirmative action Kenyan klown's lawyers' first response to Berg's initial suit for the BC. You'll have to look it up, though it was posted the other day on another BC thread, I think by Polarik or Beckwith (hint: you can search their posting histories for the past four days). Below is my response to the notion that the fraud was known and allowed, to avoid the race riots the Democrap party constituencies would have instigated had Barry Soetoro been removed before being sworn in.

Welcome to the Democrat's new world of Amerika, the Federal Oligarchy, Constitutional Republic hasbeen mutated to socialist paradise of national insolvency.

107 posted on 03/03/2009 7:29:30 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; LucyT; Iowan; MHGinTN; Fred Nerks
,i>Barack Obama has proudly and publicly stated that his father was a citizen of Kenya. We know his mother was eigteen years old when he was born. These two facts make Obama ineligible to be president. No birth certificate is needed as proof, and it doesn't matter at all where Obama was born

Only,

if his daddy really was Obama Sr. -- and that ONLY can be verified by examining Junior's vault original birth certificate.

Donofrio holds the same opinion, but he would be SOL if Obama Sr' was not Junior's daddy. We had a dust-up on his NBC blog where he cracked on me for pursuing Obama's birth certificate.

Leo stated to me that he doesn't wish to remove Obama from office. Yes, you heard me right.

108 posted on 03/03/2009 6:09:50 PM PST by Polarik ("A forgery created to prove a claim repudiates that claim")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; LucyT; Iowan; MHGinTN; Fred Nerks; Polarik
Barack Obama has proudly and publicly stated that his father was a citizen of Kenya. We know his mother was eigteen years old when he was born. These two facts make Obama ineligible to be president. No birth certificate is needed as proof, and it doesn't matter at all where Obama was born

Based upon that argument -- which I agree with -- why can't these two pages from his mom and dad's 1964 divorce be used in lieu of the COLB as prima facia evidence? It identifies BHO's biological father and is a court record ...



109 posted on 04/01/2009 1:23:26 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Polarik

>>>Leo stated to me that he doesn’t wish to remove Obama from office.

Threats?


110 posted on 04/01/2009 2:17:23 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia
Leo stated to me that he doesn’t wish to remove Obama from office.

He means that he, PERSONALLY, does not want to be the one who becomes known as the Man who dethroned a King.

111 posted on 04/01/2009 5:37:36 PM PDT by Polarik (("Forgeries don't validate claims -- they repudiate them"))
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To: tomkat

Once he’s been ruled ineligible, he is not the President or a Senator, and therefore ALL SS protection STOPS!


112 posted on 04/01/2009 5:40:12 PM PDT by Polarik (("Forgeries don't validate claims -- they repudiate them"))
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To: Polarik

I meant, was Donofrio threatened.


113 posted on 04/01/2009 5:41:09 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: BP2; Fred Nerks; null and void; LucyT

Well, for starters, Stanley Ann’s signature was abolutely FORGED.


114 posted on 04/01/2009 5:42:18 PM PDT by Polarik (("Forgeries don't validate claims -- they repudiate them"))
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To: Polarik

ABSOLUTELY.


115 posted on 04/01/2009 5:42:35 PM PDT by Polarik (("Forgeries don't validate claims -- they repudiate them"))
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To: Polarik

If her signature was forged, and those aren’t real divorce papers, maybe Obama Sr. had had his VISA revoked due to getting her pregnant since he was already married.


116 posted on 04/01/2009 5:45:48 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: oprahstheantichrist
...dogs and cats, living together...."

(Sorry, I had to post that.)

117 posted on 04/01/2009 5:51:07 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 72 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: Calpernia
I meant, was Donofrio threatened?/i>

He probably feels threatened.

118 posted on 04/01/2009 5:59:41 PM PDT by Polarik (("Forgeries don't validate claims -- they repudiate them"))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This article deserves to be reposted. OFTEN. REPEATEDLY. FREQUENTLY.

This is the single best article I have read regarding the issue of Barack’s Daddies citizenship and just exactly what it means!

I can’t believe I missed this one the first time around!!!


119 posted on 10/10/2010 7:53:36 PM PDT by Danae (Analnathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do che'l de'nmha.)
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To: ansel12

> “I always thought that was written because since these men were creating the United States, none of them could have been born in it.”

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What they were creating, via the constitution, was a new Government for those previously united states.
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120 posted on 10/10/2010 8:05:09 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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