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Bank nationalisation gains ground with Republicans [McCain+Grahamnesty] [in agreement with Obama?]
Financial Times ^ | 2009-02-17

Posted on 02/17/2009 2:28:20 PM PST by rabscuttle385

BY EDWARD LUCEA & KRISHNA GUHA

Nationalisation, long regarded in Washington as a folly of Europeans, is gaining rapid ground among US opinion-formers. Stranger still, many of those talking about federal ownership of banks are Republicans.

Lindsey Graham, the Republican senator for North Carolina, said that many of his colleagues, including John McCain, the defeated presidential candidate, agreed with his view that nationalisation of some banks should be “on the table”.

Mr Graham said that people across the US accepted his argument that it was untenable to keep throwing good money after bad into institutions such as Citigroup and Bank of America, which now have a lower net value than the amount of public funds they have received.

“You should not get caught up on a word [nationalisation],” he told the Financial Times in an interview. “I would argue that we cannot be ideologically a little bit pregnant. It doesn’t matter what you call it, but we can’t keep on funding these zombie banks [without gaining public control]. That’s what the Japanese did.”

Barack Obama, the president, who has tried to avoid panicking lawmakers and markets by entertaining the idea, has recently moved more towards what he calls the “Swedish model” – an approach backed strongly by Mr Graham.

In the early 1990s, Sweden nationalised its banking sector then auctioned banks, having cleaned up their balance sheets. “In limited circumstances the Swedish model makes sense for the US,” said Mr Graham.

(Excerpt) Read more at ft.com ...


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To: rabscuttle385

I gotta tell ya, we’ve got a better chance rebuilding conservatism with the O in the White House than we would be with McAmnesty...


21 posted on 02/17/2009 2:58:30 PM PST by GOPGuide
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To: SeekAndFind; rabscuttle385
The Drudge headline says:

OBAMA MOVES TOWARD 'SWEDISH MODEL' FOR BANK BAILOUT

22 posted on 02/17/2009 2:58:44 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: SeekAndFind

In the big plan, the government is working to dilute the appraisal guidelines by allowing broker opinions and even tax assessment values as the underlying documentation for the collateral value.

.... Yep, true skinny! Lessons never learned!


23 posted on 02/17/2009 3:01:19 PM PST by pointsal
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To: rabscuttle385

Lindsey Graham is an idiot.


24 posted on 02/17/2009 3:02:06 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: indylindy
Scum is on both sides of the aisle. Now, do the sheeple understand it yet, that it is us against the government we have now?

W started it with his "new tone in Washington."

25 posted on 02/17/2009 3:02:34 PM PST by Moonman62 (I didn't compromise my soul to be popular. -- Jimmy Carter)
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To: rabscuttle385; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SeekAndFind
SWEDISH MODEL?


26 posted on 02/17/2009 3:02:34 PM PST by Old Sarge (Obama Dozed, People Froze)
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To: Old Sarge; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SeekAndFind

You wish.


27 posted on 02/17/2009 3:03:35 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: Nervous Tick
Lindsey Graham reminds me of the character "Phil Knight" on Kath & Kim. He's gay - he just doesn't know it.

Does Lindsey drive a miata?

28 posted on 02/17/2009 3:06:22 PM PST by Solson (magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
From the FT article:
The time for biting the bullet may be fast approaching. In early April, big institutions publish their first-quarter results. If Treasury stress tests have not yet revealed the true state of their balance sheets, first-quarter results might do so.

“The first week in April – that’s when the children’s party is over,” says Chris Whalen, co-founder of Institutional Risk Analytics. “That is when the obvious will become apparent.”
Unfortunately, the Kenyan Manchild will remain in office for at least 3+ years.
29 posted on 02/17/2009 3:08:07 PM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: GOPGuide
I gotta tell ya, we’ve got a better chance rebuilding conservatism with the O in the White House than we would be with McAmnesty...

I gotta tell ya, I don't think so. We could stand to lose America.
30 posted on 02/17/2009 3:08:16 PM PST by Girlene
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To: Girlene

With McCain you would lose it ever so slightly less quickly but the overall trend would still be over the cliff.


31 posted on 02/17/2009 3:09:43 PM PST by GOPGuide
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To: Jim Robinson
Lindsey Graham is an idiot.

Short, to the point, and spot on! ; )

32 posted on 02/17/2009 3:10:33 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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To: GOPGuide

If McCain comes out for the nationalization of banks Sarah Palin needs to come out against it. That will be her final break with McCain and henceforth she will be her own woman.


33 posted on 02/17/2009 3:20:38 PM PST by techno
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To: techno

When you 60m voters voted for McCain did you vote for the nationalization of banks?

Or did you vote for Palin and the free enterprise system, low taxes and to uphold individual rights.


34 posted on 02/17/2009 3:23:05 PM PST by techno
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To: EGPWS

Does anyone here who voted for Graham rather than the Ron Paul Democrat who opposed him still want to defend their decision?


35 posted on 02/17/2009 3:23:08 PM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: rabscuttle385

I can dream.... and dream...


36 posted on 02/17/2009 3:23:30 PM PST by Old Sarge (Obama Dozed, People Froze)
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To: rabscuttle385
I find this inconceivable. To think a member of the GOP would think a governmental takeover of the banks is acceptable is truly hard to believe.
37 posted on 02/17/2009 3:24:45 PM PST by Uncle Hal
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To: Old Sarge
I can dream.... and dream...

Of course! LOL

38 posted on 02/17/2009 3:25:48 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

“I’ve put the K-Y on this finger today, Johnnie”


39 posted on 02/17/2009 3:27:03 PM PST by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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To: Moonman62

Nationalizing large banks would be the end of capitalism and freedom. Just this talk about it discourages prudent investors from buying any stocks. If it actually happened, capital would leave the United States looking for free markets. This country would be in a depression worse than the 1930’s.

Obama’s approach so far has been to punish business and increase socialism. This is the same approach taken by FDR, resulting in the depression lasting a decade. Economic conditions actually got worse under Roosevelt, and the country didn’t recover until military spending for WW II “bailed” us out.


40 posted on 02/17/2009 3:31:53 PM PST by pleikumud
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