Posted on 02/16/2009 9:40:48 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
Surtsey still surprises
by David Catchpoole
After the island of Surtsey was born of a huge undersea volcanic eruption off Iceland in 1963,1 geologists were astonished at what they found.
As one wrote: ‘On Surtsey, only a few months sufficed for a landscape to be created which was so varied and mature that it was almost beyond belief.’2
There were wide sandy beaches, gravel banks, impressive cliffs, soft undulating land, faultscarps, gullies and channels and ‘boulders worn by the surf (see picture left), some of which were almost round, on an abrasion platform cut into the cliff.’2 And all of this despite the ‘extreme youth’3 of the island!
The geologists’ surprise is understandable, given the modern thinking that young Surtsey’s ‘varied and mature’ features ought to have needed long periods of time—millions of years—to form....
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You are definitely starting to convince me. Right now we are lucking for a sofa set. Perhaps that’s why she’s saying used furniture is “gross.” You know what’s funny, one of her favorite television programs is the Antiques RoadShow!
IKEA? You're kidding, right? Who would want that Swedish made, socialistic looking junk in their house????
==Let’s assume that it is. Does that mean you can extrapolate this specific case to sedimentary layers in general?
If nothing else, it should make you pause and think. And let’s not forget about the newly created island that is the subject of this post. Many, many more examples could be given. YEC predicts these kinds of events, whereas uniformitarians are left baffled. And trust me, many, many more examples could be given.
This can be explained in one word. Asian. My wife is Asian. That is all you need to know.
That's where I collect all sorts of rocks for my rock garden.
Last time this area was a volcanic intrusion of any kind was several billion years ago. Still, there was a gigantic meteor hit the continental margin out here near the DELMARVA and that left a layered uplift of chunks ~ just like any impact crater ~ you can still make out the outlines if you know what you're looking for.
In between "Snowball" and "meteor" this was a chunk of North Africa. You find rocks typical of the region in Morocco.
Maybe God is trying to tell us that we don’t know so much after all.
Thanks for the info!
Yes, there is an explanation for everything. Unfortunately for the uniformitarians, that explanation only goes back around 6,000 years. Mention this explanation, and steam starts shooting out of their ears, and springs start flying out of their head :o)
Unfortunately, no. One does not base rational science on something that just makes you think. Sound geological science proves otherwise using carbon dating among other tools. Now, I know that YECs say that carbon hasn’t always deteriorated this way...
Fortunately, the geologists and engineers that are employed in industries where objectivity on this subject means money (petroleum, for example) are considerable more astute.
I can understand why she feels that used upholstery is a little disgusting. Depends on where it comes from. You never know what bug eggs might be in something from the Salvation Army. When I suggested buying used, I was thinking more of bedstead, tables, dressers, chests, wardrobes, sideboard, etc.—the hard goods.
Rather than get a “sofa set” (by which I’m guessing you mean a sofa and matching loveseat), you might consider buying a sofa and two chairs that match each other but complement, rather than exactly match, the sofa; plus one accent chair of a different style altogether. This will give you much more flexibility as you move and your lives change; you can rearrange the component pieces, move them to different rooms, change things up in a way you can’t do with a sofa set. It also means you could buy a single sofa today and have something to sit on, then go back for chairs later when you see a sale and have a bit more money.
Remember, IKEA sells different lines, and even within a line they will use different materials for different parts (hardwood visible surfaces, paperboard backs) and that sort of thing.
My kitchen is 100% solid European white oak cabinet fronts from IKEA. The floor is 100% solid bamboo.
I even have a couple of Poang chairs in the living room.
Ever sit in a Poang?
Once bought a Billy bookcase. Had to trim 2 inches off each shelf to fit it into a "place". The shelves were made of pressed aromatic cedar ~ just absolutely incredible when I cut into them. Didn't paint the ends over so if you want to snif them, it's still OK.
How'd you do that?
When it comes to "layers" let's say we have a river that floods regularly. Every time that happens it's going to drop silt. The silt builds up in identifiable layers. Eventually the river silts up and cuts a new channel somewhere else in its flood plain.
Sometimes it cuts a lot, sometimes a little.
No one is baffled about this.
Another time rocks roll down a hill. Every time there's an earthquake more rocks roll down. Each time they do so they form a new layer. Eventually you have deposit levels dating over many years.
Also, the presence of fossils.
Regards,
[[Also, the presence of fossils.]]
Mt. St. Helens has em- fossilized trees- instant fossilization complete With Sediments!:
“The Specimen Ridge fossilized tree trunks are reminiscent of the enigmatic polystrate fossils discussed in the previous chapter. Polystrate (i.e. “many-layer”) fossils are evidence against an old earth because their existence argues that the several layers encasing them had to be deposited quickly, and at one time. In order to produce a fossil, an organism must be buried rapidly so as to seal it off from the decomposing affects of air, insects, bacteria, etc. Prior to the Mount St. Helens eruption, scientists were at a loss to explain how so many uprooted and dead trees might come to buried in an upright position. Discoveries at Spirit Lake, in the blast site immediately north of Mount St. Helens, revealed the answer.”
http://www.creationism.org/ackerman/AckermanYoungWorldChap10.htm
“Some of these things can be passed on to descendants when you are old, or resold.”
How much am I bid for a 68 year-old curmudgeon in need of a good, loving home and lots of beer?
You can’t credibly support your argument with a link to creationism.org!
The Genesis story is absolutely true. Just don't bicker about Moses’s translation of his revelation from the Lord.
When he said “days” did anyone stop to think whether it might be in the Almighty's reckoning; not Earth time???
Science and faith cannot be in conflict. Science helps us to understand the truth of God's physical creation; faith helps us to understand God's intent/will. Both are true; when they appear to contradict, it is because either the physical evidence or scripture is misunderstood.
It really doesn't make a difference in finding the oil or gas whether the process of formation took 6000 or 60,000,000 years.If you base your search on observed data ,i.e. oil will likely be found in places that have specific characteristics,it is immaterial to your success just when those characteristics were formed.
I don't know what the market is like for curmudgeons these days. Have you thought of selling yourself on Ebay? Set a low reserve and see what you come up with. ;-)
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