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Officials confirm Warner fumbled at game's end
NBC Sports ^ | 2/2/09 | Tom Curran

Posted on 02/02/2009 4:02:54 PM PST by TheBigB

(excerpted)... According to NFL VP of Officiating Mike Pereira, the replay official upstairs did see the play clearly.

“We confirmed it was a fumble,” said Pereira. “The replay assistant in the replay booth saw it was clearly a fumble. The ball got knocked loose and was rolling in his hand before it started forward. He has to have total control.”


(Excerpt) Read more at nbcsports.msnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: cardinals; chat; kurtwarner; nfl; sports
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To: TheBigB; All
HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!!!!!

That ought to shut y'all up for a minute......

62 posted on 02/02/2009 4:41:14 PM PST by Viking2002 (The Occupation has begun. God help America.)
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To: Petronski

Go look at the YouTube video and ask yourself honestly if the poster’s view that it was a pass (12 ft. with a little wobbling spiral) was not in fact a pass. That the league called it otherwise doesn’t change his view of the event. The play may have been “decided” by the league, but that doesn’t create reality. I looked it up. Bad calls occur all the time.


63 posted on 02/02/2009 4:41:16 PM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88

Ask myself honestly?

Wow, thanks for insinuating I’m a liar for stating that the fumble was a fumble.

Change all the nouns in this discussion and it bears a powerful resemblance to “Bush Lost Florida.”


64 posted on 02/02/2009 4:44:05 PM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: TheBigB

That was no fumble. The defender was putting pressure on the hand, but the ball never came loose until the arm was moving forward.

The NFL just doesn’t want to admit it blew the call. Again.


65 posted on 02/02/2009 4:44:57 PM PST by mlo
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To: Dutchboy88
That the league called it otherwise doesn’t change his view of the event.

And yet he is not entitled to his own reality. There is only one reality, the one with the game-ending fumble.

66 posted on 02/02/2009 4:45:18 PM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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Well, I don’t think anyone has been called blind, retarded, or moronic yet. We’re making progress. lol :)


67 posted on 02/02/2009 4:46:56 PM PST by TheBigB (I'd rather have a third Bush term than a second Carter term.)
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To: trisham
I think you're fighting a losing battle here, but I admire your perseverance.

Don't think of it as a battle. I think of it as an evening's amusement.

Believe me, I am powerfully amused.

68 posted on 02/02/2009 4:46:58 PM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Lakeshark

Things that make you go hmmmmmm. Bad Steelers!


69 posted on 02/02/2009 4:47:46 PM PST by derllak
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To: TheBigB
This is an amusing thread. People are offering their opinions without having the benefit of reviewing the play from various angles (as the NFL officials have) or knowing the actual rule involved (as the NFL officials do).

This amounts to a full fledged battle of wits amongst and between "unarmed" people.

P.S. It was a fumble.

70 posted on 02/02/2009 4:49:12 PM PST by PackerBoy (Just my opinion ....)
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To: Petronski
Good. :)

Nice to see you, FRiend. Seems like it's been a while.

71 posted on 02/02/2009 4:50:49 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: derllak
Good Steelers won, you owe me big time!

:-)

72 posted on 02/02/2009 4:51:36 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Petronski

There is only one reality, Warner had the ball it came away from his hand and hit the ground, bounced and was picked up. Now, the poster is not at issue about this reality. He has a different interpretation of whether the officials called it correctly when they interpret this as a fumble. The interpretation is not the reality.


73 posted on 02/02/2009 4:54:08 PM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: CGTRWK

The NFL referee committee already threw Ed Hoculi, one of the best officials in the game, under the bus when he made bad calls. They are not afraid to police their own and they have a proven track record of doing this. It was clearly a fumble, and the only ones arguing otherwise are disgruntled Browns fans and haters.

JM


74 posted on 02/02/2009 4:54:37 PM PST by JohnnyM
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
The replay booth should have took several minutes to review that one.

Seriously--"should have took?"

75 posted on 02/02/2009 4:54:38 PM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: Dutchboy88

Since I saw the game and that play, He CLEARLY didn’t have control of the ball, it was wobbling in his hand as he tried to pass it while it wobbled or to down it to avoid the sack

Sorry, he fumbled and lost!


76 posted on 02/02/2009 4:59:14 PM PST by RaceBannon (We have sown the wind, but we will reap the whirlwind. NObama. Not my president.)
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To: McGruff

I think there were 5 seconds. Not much time, but it, at the very least, deserved a long booth review. This Super Bowl was not nearly as foul smelling as Super Bowl XL vs the Seahawks (one of the most obviously thrown Super Bowls in history), but it did have a slight stink to it.


77 posted on 02/02/2009 5:09:05 PM PST by Jaime2099
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To: Ikemeister

I’m glad to see I’m not the only one who saw that the Steeler’s winning touchdown was a farce. It was obvious he only had one foot down.

Sigh. I debated this last night and with people at work today.

Guess you and I are the only fans with good eyesight!


78 posted on 02/02/2009 5:10:42 PM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: TheBigB
Interesting thread. Kurt Warner's forced fumble aside, there is an Arizona fan in my office today crying to anyone who will listen that Santonio Holmes didn't have both feet down inside the end zone on the game-winning touchdown. It's pathetic.

The facts are these: Warner fumbled, and Santonio Holmes caught the ball under triple coverage and had both feet down inside the field. Game over.

Arizona showed up to lose on Sunday. They lived up to the expectation everyone had for them. No amount of citing obscure NFL arcanum will change that.

Better luck next year, Cardinals.

79 posted on 02/02/2009 5:12:01 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: Owl_Eagle
A ball doesn’t fly forward 12 feet when it’s fumbled.

Losers yell "DEAL" and winners tell jokes.

It's the way it has always been and always will be.

80 posted on 02/02/2009 5:16:40 PM PST by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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